WHat is the difference between "is" and "has" in the word of God?

[Robert Lindstrom]

WHy does the KJV Bible quote "JESUS Christ "IS" come in the flesh? Some commentary so called bibles read: Jesus Christ HAS come in the flesh. What is the difference?

 

[Bendito]

WHy does the KJV Bible quote "JESUS Christ "IS" come in the flesh? Some commentary so called bibles read: Jesus Christ HAS come in the flesh. What is the difference?

Dig deep in places like this. Every place in the KJV that has grammatical 'errors' like this hold a nugget for you. If you dig for it. You have the Holy Spirit in you as counselor and teacher. Let Him teach you.

 

[Dovegiven]

WHy does the KJV Bible quote "JESUS Christ "IS" come in the flesh? Some commentary so called bibles read: Jesus Christ HAS come in the flesh. What is the difference?

Welcome aboard.
Translating Greek into English came with some difficulties that are minor like that.
1 John 4:1-3 (KJV)
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

You won't find the Greek equivalent of the fairly strange English "is" in there. Without adding some words like "is" there it would translate to "Jesus Christ come" (came) (appeared) all the same from the Gr. for come "ἔρχομαι".

There is no significant difference between that use of "is" and a commentary choosing "has". I let commentaries be just that, not substituting for the word of God. Newer commentaries tend to drop that old way of saying "He is come to work on time." with the way today you might rather say "He has come to work", or "He came to work on time". If he did it, then that is a settled fact that can't be erased. Jesus came, "is" come. Even Presidents can trip up over "is", depending on which generation he hails from.

 

[Robert Lindstrom]

Dig deep in places like this. Every place in the KJV that has grammatical 'errors' like this hold a nugget for you. If you dig for it. You have the Holy Spirit in you as counselor and teacher. Let Him teach you.

You are right, one must dig deep otherwise people will run into all kinds of contradictions in the Word. With the right revelation, the Word of God will come together with absolutely no contradictions whatsoever. Take for instance Genesis 1:26-27
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Let US make man in our image? Next verse says the opposite. So God created man in HIS own image...

So which one is it? The first one sounds like a plurality of God and the second one sounds like singularity of God. One must dig deep in the scriptures to find the answer.

 

[Robert Lindstrom]

You are right, one must dig deep otherwise people will run into all kinds of contradictions in the Word. With the right revelation, the Word of God will come together with absolutely no contradictions whatsoever. Take for instance Genesis 1:26-27
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Let US make man in our image? Next verse says the opposite. So God created man in HIS own image...

So which one is it? The first one sounds like a plurality of God and the second one sounds like singularity of God. One must dig deep in the scriptures to find the answer.

Luk_6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

What is that rock?
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Christ is all, and in all? To know what that means, one has to really be lead by the Holy Ghost into all truth.

Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

Why didnt it say " Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of US,) to do thy will, O God?

 

[Robert Lindstrom]

You are right, one must dig deep otherwise people will run into all kinds of contradictions in the Word. With the right revelation, the Word of God will come together with absolutely no contradictions whatsoever. Take for instance Genesis 1:26-27
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Let US make man in our image? Next verse says the opposite. So God created man in HIS own image...

So which one is it? The first one sounds like a plurality of God and the second one sounds like singularity of God. One must dig deep in the scriptures to find the answer.

For those who are interested in knowing the revelation of Genesis 1:26, here it is.

This so called contradictory here is to force us to dig deeper into the Word.


Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

God has many attributes. Love, joy, peace, power, understanding, wisdom, discretion, etc..etc..

Jer 10:12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

Notice, He never used an angel to do His creating.

Mal_2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Jer 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

The gods have not made the heavens and the earth?

Exo 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

"Another attribute of God is Jealous."

Isa_45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Isa_45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

It looks like He alone created the heavens and the earth.

Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

Is there another spirit in heaven called wisdom or is that just one of His attributes? Without the attribute of love, we could not know how to love. Without joy, we could not have joy, etc etc..


Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

So God created man in HIS own image. There it is, a singular pronoun called "His". That doesn't sound like a plurality of three gods there. It doesn't sound like the Father talking to the Son and the Holy Spirit saying one to another, .....let us make man in our image.

 

[B-A-C]

WHy does the KJV Bible quote "JESUS Christ "IS" come in the flesh? Some commentary so called bibles read: Jesus Christ HAS come in the flesh. What is the difference?

The original manuscripts do not say either... "is" and "has" was added later.
It's difficult to build a doctrine on this verse alone.

Still Jesus came in the flesh, and was resurrected in the flesh. Plenty of other verses support this.