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What does it mean to take every thought captive (2 Corinthians 10:5)?

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@Bethel,
Bethel, in closing once again upon your ever so wanting lack of biblical knowledge, THINK!

Listen.

If God's Blood as Jesus on the Cross shedding it, did not pay for all sin, then you are still in yours, if you are born again, and not just water baptized.

Here is what you need to do.

Read John 3:17.......and then compare this with Romans 4:8.

You dont even need to spiritually discern those......just read them, and believe it.
 
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@Bethel,

YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "Also, there is no "Judgment day" waiting for the born again., there is only Eternal Life with God IN Christ, that all the Born Again, already possess."

Bethel, and as respectable that I can be, as if your Bible ignorance isn't enough upon your Satanic notion that every Christian will be forgiven of their sins,


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If your sin is not forgive before you die, then you are this...... John 3:36

If however, you have received the "Gift of Salvation" being born again, then all your sin has been judged already.
That is Jesus dying for them on the Cross., and because He did, you wont be judged for them.........as long as you are born again, and not just water baptized pretending you are a Christian.

There are no born again in Hell.
There are no Christ rejectors in Heaven.
 
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@Bethel,


YOUR UNGODLY SATANIC QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "Listen. If God's Blood as Jesus on the Cross shedding it, did not pay for all sin, then you are still in yours, if you are born again, and not just water baptized."

As specifically shown to the membership and Jesus (Hebrews 4:13),
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When you deny that the Blood of God, isn't shed for ALL sin, then you are denying that Christ's sacrifice on The Cross = is not a one time and eternal for ALL sin.
THis means that you are in contradiction to and with the Cross itself, as you and your cult, limit it, instead of giving it all the Credit Due Christ on it.

Here is your problem...

Hebrews 10:12. """""But when this Jesus had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,""""""


Listen now......, trying to sound like an authority, is not the same as being one......ok?
So, you can stop pretending.

My Threads are available, and they can help you.
But you have to want to come out of the Cross Rejecting theology that has ruined your faith.
That's on you, BrotherDThomas.
Believe it.
 
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I've deleted 2 unneccessary posts from this thread. Keep it respectful or get your account banned. This is not a place to debate Scripture with sarcasm or judgemental tones.
 
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“We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.” // ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭10:5‬

In speaking of our spiritual warfare, Paul says that we take every thought captive and subject all thinking to Christ Jesus. Here are the apostle’s words: “We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5).

The primary point in this section of 2 Corinthians is that we are in a spiritual warfare. What leads up to the statement that we take every thought captive is important. In verse 3 Paul states that though we walk in the flesh we do not war after the flesh. That is, we do not rely on human ingenuity or manmade plans to bring the victory. The flesh is powerless against the wiles of the devil. In verse 4 Paul mentions the “strongholds” or the “fortresses” that are destroyed by God’s power. These strongholds are the philosophies, arguments, and “proud opinions” mentioned in verse 5.

Without question, there are many human thoughts that need to be taken captive. Numerous ungodly philosophies hold people in bondage, and those spiritual “fortresses” need to be demolished. The systems of thought that war against us are “arrogant obstacles” (NET), “lofty opinions” (ESV), and “sophisticated arguments and every exalted and proud thing” (AMP) that prevent people from knowing God. In our day, these systems of human thought include the theory of evolution, secular humanism, existentialism, the cults, the occult, and false religions. How many people are held captive by the idea that they are the products of chance in a godless universe? How many spiritual prisoners labor under the requirements of Allah and await freedom in Christ? We must take captive every thought and make it obedient to Christ. “If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36).

False religion and secular philosophy have created thinking that has imprisoned the minds of millions. It is a true spiritual battle: “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God” (2 Corinthians 4:4). Any idea, opinion, or worldview that asserts that Christ is unnecessary is reflective of the devil’s pride. Such thoughts must be taken captive and made obedient to Christ. Those who know the truth must confront error with the weapon we’ve been given, the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God (Ephesians 6:17).

Our weapons in the spiritual battle are not carnal but mighty through God. As we are transformed by the renewing of our minds (Romans 12:2), we engage the battle against pretense and arrogant philosophy in the world. Trusting Christ and rightly dividing the Word of God (2 Timothy 2:15), we take every thought captive, pull down the strongholds, and, by the grace of God, set the captives free.

Source:What does it mean to take every thought captive (2 Corinthians 10:5)? | GotQuestions.org

So is your thought "captive" to Jesus?

Know Jesus GOD- or is your "thoughts" captive to your church?
 
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if I may, a little study about the war of the mind, these are brainstorm, not so much a type of thinking, but a type of spiritual intervention to the believer, I experience this every night non-stop
what I try to do, is to cast down, not just stronghold, but foresees
One is always using the Amor of God (Eph 6:11). see I always wonder if Satan uses fiery darts (Eph 6: 16).
A believer has in his or her possesses which is the shield of faith.
Satan uses fiery darts (Eph 6: 16). are frequencies, because the mind is designed as a bird using its compass for direction, using earth's magnetic field.
Now I know may think that is natural but is in our nature as to how to understand the mind.
The world is use frequencies in everyday life, remember Satan is Prince of the Air (Eph. 2:2). frequencies travel through the airwaves
Satan uses fiery darts are frequencies that travel through the mind.
I can prove my theory, in a spiritual way.

Cast Down Fortress Stronghold that is satanic
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Satan was and is the Chief Musician
Job 38:7 (NKJV)
When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (NKJV) For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

2 Corinthians 10: 5 mighty in God for pulling down strongholds

Satanic strongholds against God Fortress Stronghold
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the prince of the power of the air-the Troposphere the first heaven and also used for radio waves frequencies
In Ephesians 2:2 (NKJV)
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,

In Revelation 11:8 reading from the (NKJV) And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

In Ephesians 6:12 (NKJV) For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Note: spiritually is called Sodom and Egyp Satanic strongholds against God Fortress Stronghold, Principalities a place that is the ruler

Note: where also our Lord was crucified., a place or a Church that is Satanic, this a man in on a cross crucified spiritually is a place which the Lord says is called Sodom and Egyp a Great City which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,

Bring the mind into Captivity, but using satanic in the airwaves,
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Matthew 19:28 (NKJV)
So Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 
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Is your 'faith' controlled by church tradition, or by the spirit of Christ?

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"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." - 2 Cor. 10:5

The “strong holds” that are pulled down are imaginations and human reasoning. These verses are usually given a particular slant that limits their meaning, namely, that “casting down imaginations” means we are to bring into captivity every thought in our own head to the obedience of Christ. In other words, we think of the “imaginations” as being merely in our own head. But in this chapter, Paul was referring to the imaginations of not only our own head but also the heads of others. False teachers talked to the Corinthians about what God’s will is, but their instruction was of human reasoning. The lesson is that as Christians, we have to be careful of and to cast out from our minds all human reasoning. We must be sure that what a “teacher” says squares with the Word of God. We are to be wary of not only our own imagination but also the imagination of others—of “every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God,” especially with regard to those in a teaching role. We are engaged in mental warfare— a war of the mind and thinking. The false teachers spoke with authority, assuming they were superior to Paul, and did not recognize him as an apostle. They were presumptuous in their thinking, and Paul told the Corinthians to be careful in accepting such human reasoning.

Each Christian should bring “into captivity every thought [in his own mind] to the obedience of Christ.” What a person says is imagination if it is not backed up with Scripture. The Bereans, who readily heard, or received, what Paul said and then searched the Scriptures daily to see if his words were true, had the proper attitude. We, too, are to test every word and thought against the Word of God, thus bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of God and Christ. Note: We must hear something in order to analyze, screen, and square it with the Bible. Only a fool answers a matter before he hears it. Then, after having heard a matter, we need to find out if it squares with Scripture.

With regard to the “pulling down of strong holds,” many things in our minds and characters need to be removed, and we do not have the strength of character to withstand all of them except by the Holy Spirit, the power of God. When victories come, the credit goes to God for working in us to His glory and honor, for we are a spectacle to men and to angels.

Some “imaginations” are self-hallucinatory, self-indulged human reasoning; others are subjected on our minds by occult power. The RSV reads, “We destroy arguments and every proud obstacle to the knowledge of God.” These “arguments” can be of the old heart, the old mind, for the old creature reasons in the mind of the new creature. Also, there are pressures on the mind from without—from other people, associates, principalities, and powers.

“Casting down ... every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God.” We marvel that the martyr Stephen made his calling and election sure so quickly. He must have been a very positive character, dealing with all of the mental assaults right away. Paul had the same type of mind, but because God chose him to have a ministry and be a special angel to the Church, his life was prolonged for the benefit of others in both doctrine and Christian walk.

The old mind causes problems with imaginations and fantasies. In our development, we sometimes get in a stupor that must be fought over a period of time. As we assess ourselves, we find that we are not necessarily the best example. Stated another way, there is always room for improvement. Therefore, time is a factor in our development and mental warfare. This statement seems to be even truer of the days we are living in. Since the Laodicean period thus far has not witnessed Christians being burned at the stake for their beliefs, what makes us worthy or unworthy of being received into the Little Flock in glory is victory in mental warfare. In other words, our mental struggles are being closely observed to see if we are fit.

We need to search the Scriptures daily on all different issues in order to have the “knowledge of God” as a defense in our mental warfare. The Lord’s Word tells us what is evil and wrong and gives specific examples. Familiarity with the Word gives us knowledge of Him and His instruction. The “casting down” is based on both familiarity with Scripture and obedience to it. If we bring “into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ,” if we meet this highest standard, we will make the Little Flock.

Since verse 4 is parenthetical, Paul’s application connected verses 3 and 5. In verse 3, Paul said it was not his habit to walk after the flesh, for he was spiritually minded, always having a high level of thinking. Some people like to hear a dispute for the sake of a dispute, but Paul was not of that disposition. He was saying that the weapons of Christian warfare are not carnal. For instance, to punch someone in the nose to get a point across is the use of a fist as a “carnal” weapon. And of course the use of a literal weapon to impose one’s will is another example of a carnal weapon. Paul was saying, “Though the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, nevertheless, the weapons we have at our disposal—those we receive through God’s Spirit— are mighty to the pulling down of strongholds.” Paul did not war after the flesh, but he was not weaponless, for he had spiritual weapons.

In our Christian life, we often think upon verse 5. “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.” We have a dual nature—a spirit nature in an earthen body—and much of the time there is a conflict between the two. In this exercise of the spirit presiding over the flesh, hindering the flesh in every way possible, we develop character and become stronger as Christians. This basic principle can be applied in another sense too.

Many people quote verse 5 in regard to various incidents in life. For instance, some try to use hypnotic power to cast others under a spell. The tendency of certain television ministers is to get audience participation from the viewers with words such as, “Look at me now,” with the result that people look them in the eye. Another method is to put their hands on the face of the television camera and say, “Put your two hands where my hands are.” Such ministers try to actually communicate with the viewer, whereas a viewer is normally like a disinterested spectator. To avoid coming under hypnosis or any other type of occult power, one should immediately either turn off the television or say something like, “In the name of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I rebuke thee.”

If a filthy thought or suggestion comes into the mind, we should do the same thing, that is, either verbally or mentally rebuke the thought. According to the flesh, we are inclined to rebuke by simply trying to resist the thought, but our own effort alone is usually not successful. The instruction is, “Resist the devil, and he will flee from you,” but if we try to resist by just having a stronger will, we usually fail (James 4:7). However, if we say, “I rebuke thee, Satan, in the name of Jesus Christ,” and thus make the rebuke personal, it is more apt to be effective. Another method is to ask someone to assist us in prayer to ward off such an attack.
 
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Another aspect to this is simply to take control of your thoughts and don't let them run rampant. We must control all facets of our selves and keep the enemy from moving in.
Those who have trouble, should place their trust & confidence in Jesus Christ to help us to do this. Sinners can boast of mind over matter methodology but when we deal with dark forces at times, best to rely on Jesus all the time.

@Sue D. @Mayflower @Bethel
 
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Those who have trouble, should place their trust & confidence in Jesus Christ to help us to do this. Sinners can boast of mind over matter methodology but when we deal with dark forces at times, best to rely on Jesus all the time.

@Sue D. @Mayflower @Bethel
Oh You're saying that we just let Jesus do it all.....What about, in the bible, where He tells us to do it, or not to do? Just throw that back to Him?
 
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Oh You're saying that we just let Jesus do it all.....What about, in the bible, where He tells us to do it, or not to do? Just throw that back to Him?
Point is, that we can do nothing without Him.

John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

When believers fail, wondering why Jesus is not helping them keep their promises or their commitments, it is because they are suppose to rest in Him & His promises, relying on Him all the time for following Him in thought, word, & deed.

So one of the truth He has taught me is to stop looking to myself in doing the best I can, expecting Him to do the rest when I am to rely on Him all the time as my Good Shepherd & Friend since He is in me and with me always to help me follow Him. It is how I can see that His yoke is easy & His burden is light after all. Matthew 11:28-30
 
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