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THEY BELIEVE IN GOD BUT NOT IN THE BIBLE.
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WHAT CAN I SAY..
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WHAT CAN I SAY..
What are some ways to talk to a muslim?
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Talk to them as you would want to be talked to.
Talk to them like the human beings they are.
I know some Muslims are of the extremist kind, but I have never met one (I've certainly seen some on television and documentaries though) -- but then again you have the extremist Christians too.
People are people.
Talk to them like the human beings they are.
I know some Muslims are of the extremist kind, but I have never met one (I've certainly seen some on television and documentaries though) -- but then again you have the extremist Christians too.
People are people.
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Pray that God will speak through you. Talking to them about why God said the bible is important. The same way you would talk to other unbelievers. Just be kind and gentle, explain the truth and let God do the work.
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Like all things we must be lead of the Holy Spirit. He will let you know when it is time and give you the words to say.
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Sadly talking to a Muslim about Christ in most countries is taking ones life into ones hands. There is not one corner of the globe that is not currently seeing people murdered by radical Muslims and there are more people being martyred for Christ (mostly by Muslims) than at any time in history.
I guess the rule is general and is applicable to all of us: The Truth Shall Free you (everybody of us)!
So share with others what you truly feel is true and be open to truth as well. And the truth will click your/his heart (if somebody have a pure heart).
And there are some ppl to whom preaching doesn't benefit bcuz God has locked their hearts bcuz of the evil they do. To them, we still preach (bcuz we have the responsibility to deliver) and when we preach, we are also reminding ourselves. Secondly, to give Guidance is in the hand of God! Furthermore the Guidance of God or His Heaven is not that cheap! (good and evil is not equal).
Sincerity and courage is the key to hold onto.
I am a muslim.
So share with others what you truly feel is true and be open to truth as well. And the truth will click your/his heart (if somebody have a pure heart).
And there are some ppl to whom preaching doesn't benefit bcuz God has locked their hearts bcuz of the evil they do. To them, we still preach (bcuz we have the responsibility to deliver) and when we preach, we are also reminding ourselves. Secondly, to give Guidance is in the hand of God! Furthermore the Guidance of God or His Heaven is not that cheap! (good and evil is not equal).
Sincerity and courage is the key to hold onto.
I am a muslim.
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Hello my friend. I am not anti muslim but I am pointing out that sharing needs to be addressed carefully and prayerfully. There are places it could result in the death not only of oneself but of ones entire family.
I agree 100% that if we seek the truth we shall find it. I also firmly believe in speaking the truth in love and that God can soften even the hardest heart.
I will be praying for you,
your friend Larry.
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A lot depends on where you are when you are doing the talking. In the USA, we are free to talk about Jesus. In many non-Christian areas of the world, however, they have anti-proselytizing laws which make it illegal for people to promote religions other than the dominant religion of the area. In these places, openly evangelizing can land you and the person you're talking to in torturous imprisonment.
Regarding talking to Muslims in America, I'd suggest getting as much information on the Muslim faith as you can from independent sources such as Wikipedia.org and Christian apologists such as Josh McDowell, Lee Strobel, etc. to be prepared to deal with their positions. Being guided by the Spirit's prompting is critically important in knowing whom to approach, when to approach them, and what to say. (see Lk 12:11-12).
SLE
Regarding talking to Muslims in America, I'd suggest getting as much information on the Muslim faith as you can from independent sources such as Wikipedia.org and Christian apologists such as Josh McDowell, Lee Strobel, etc. to be prepared to deal with their positions. Being guided by the Spirit's prompting is critically important in knowing whom to approach, when to approach them, and what to say. (see Lk 12:11-12).
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actually the person i'm referring to lives in the usa.
this is all very good advice thanks to all of you!
The law is your best companion!
Learn to use the law and you will not be disappointed. I have used it in many places so I'm confident it works. Check livingwaters dot c o m (I cannot post link as I have less than 49 posts)and look for good books there. Remember, Holy Spirit is the one who convicts sinners, so pray for the person and for wisdom. Here are three argument I use:
1. Using "universal law" (which is actually 10 Commandment) I ask simple questions, and see if the guy haven't broken any. Have you ever lied, commited adultery, stolen anything etc. In fact every human being have violated, at least one of them.
2. Once He admit, ask him if Allah is a Holy God. If he says Yes, ask hin if Allah overlooks sin. He will obviou say no. Stress on Holiness of God (not allah at this point but God in generic means). After he grasp the point move on next
3. Every breaking of the law demands punishment. Show him that punishment is necessitated by presence of the law. So allah must, in some way,punish sinners. Stress here on hell as the punishment for ALL sinners. When he gets the point move to the next
4. No body is fit for heaven. So how is he going to get there. He will probably appeal to mercifulness of allah. Show him holiness of God. If God is holy, He must punish every sin. Any compromise will emasculate him of any quality of holiness. Once He gets there, at dilemma then preach the Gospel. Untill you get here don't mention of Jesus/Cross for it will not make sense. But once he knows he is sinner, then it will make sense.
5. Explain now the Gospel that God incarnated and lived Holy Life and paid our debt at the cross so that He could forgive us without compromising His holiness. That If He wont trust on Jesus, He would have to pay the price forever in hell and let him choose.
6. Keep praying for Him, regardless of whether he repent or not. God is faithful
I have done that and many Muslims have thrown "Thanks you and... can we meet again so that we talk more about those stuffs?" The Gospel, when rightly presented, Is POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION
May God give you wisdom,
Stefano
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I just got your post an WOW!:shock:
Thanks Man!
You laid it our so plain!
I have watched alot of living waters videos on you tube
I love them!
they are so inspiring what those guys do
I never thought of using this concept (the Law)
as a tool to reach a muslim
but like you said SOO PLAINLY THAT EVEN A KID COULD UNDERSTAND,
they do believe in some parts of The Bible
and that's what i will use..
Again thanks.... I guess i had a mind block or something
this is soo easy now
Thank God for people who can steer you in the right direction!
your my new best buddy!:cute-animated:
Thanks Man!
You laid it our so plain!
I have watched alot of living waters videos on you tube
I love them!
they are so inspiring what those guys do
I never thought of using this concept (the Law)
as a tool to reach a muslim
but like you said SOO PLAINLY THAT EVEN A KID COULD UNDERSTAND,
they do believe in some parts of The Bible
and that's what i will use..
Again thanks.... I guess i had a mind block or something
this is soo easy now
Thank God for people who can steer you in the right direction!
your my new best buddy!:cute-animated:
God bless you,
Keep sharing until the world hears.
I love new friend, welcome and you can PM your email to keep in touch.
Ooh! I forgot one thing, Mark Cahill. Actually I love that guy for his seriousness and is the one to first inspire me on Sharing. check him at MarkCahill dot o r g
He is great! Great soldier! :wink:
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Jesus is the only true Way that leads to God
Christ must save, and Christ alone
God told all through the True Apostle Paul, in Ephesians 6:24,
"Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen."
Dear Tranquility,
Your question opens up a whole can of worms (questions) that ONLY God Our Father and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself can teach you, little by little by personal experience.
But God, by the Grace of God, requires His True Children to get in right relationship and stay in right relationship with Him, by doing our God Priviledged Part which is that WE ourselves are truly and WHOLEHEARTEDLY forever committed to:
1 - WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRUST AND SEEK AND LOVE AND ABANDON ALL OF OURSELVES AND ALL OF OUR CONCERNS INTO God and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ HIMSELF, only for God and Jesus Himself, unused and untarnished by any evil self-interest, WHO TRULY DWELLS IN THE MIDST (Zephaniah 3:17) of our human spirits,
in THE TRUE HOLY OF HOLIES, WHERE God Our Father and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself truly and forever dwells
In a nutshell...I will share some spritual Truths that God and Jesus has shown me from my own personal experiences as I have both worked with and dealt with Muslims
The Truth is that the muslim CULT just like all other cults has pieces of Truth in it, along with pieces of falsehood, or leaven (unbelief, worldliness, hypocrisy or acting) as Jesus warned about the religious of His Day, the evil leaven, especially the evil leaven of believing Deceit or false teaching, rather that God and Jesus Himself, The Only Way, Truth, Life, and Light of God
God's Own Eternally Just and Eternally True judgement...From The Beginning declares the problem, "Through DECEIT, they (the world) REFUSE to KNOW me.
And God told King Solomon, "TO KNOW THEE, LORD, IS LIFE ETERNAL
and God told The True Apostle John, "And this is the condemnation, that men LOVED darkness (their own evil selfish way) rather than Light (Jesus Himself within their human spirits) because their DEEDS or actions were evil.
In other words, men preferred their sin in this temporary mortal life, instead of WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRUSTING and SEEKING and LOVING GOD'S ONLY TRULY TRUE AND PERFECT AND MERCIFUL HOLY WAY OF SUFFERING PAIN WITH JESUS ON THE CROSS in this evil mortal life moment by moment daily until Jesus Himself returns for them.
God has shown me...tell all whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, or heathen about The Person of Jesus, Who Himself alone was
The True Faith of Abraham...and that if we (whosoever will chooses) will to simply do as Abraham did...which is to WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE AND TRUST AND SEEK AND LOVE WORSHIP JESUS HIMSELF
alone forever truly only...then God Himself, will declare them righteous ONLY IN CHRIST...NEVER OF OUR WORKS OR SELF OR SELF EFFORT...which are naturally evil due to Adam's Transgression.
and again, "Multitudes, Multitudes, in the valley of decision."
1 - The Muslims believe that 5 books are Holy:
a - The Holy Psalms of God
b - The Torah (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy)
c - All true prophets Old Testament prophets of The Lord God of Abraham
d - The Book of Abraham (which is truly a very Scriptural and Holy ancient book of God, like The Dead Sea Scrolls, but not incorporated into the other 66 Holy Scriptures of God known as The Holy Bible)
e - The Koran
the muslims are truly correct on 4 out of 5...but just like Jesus said of His own people after the flesh...so Jesus says to all..."unless you believe that I (Jesus) Am HE (THE TRUE MESSIAH) OF GOD,
you will die in your sins."
and just like any other denomination, including the Christian community, they have their share of evil false prophets or imans,
who try to use religion for their own evil self-interests to maintain power and control over others and preserve their own evil love of self...instead of doing what Jesus said all MUST DO...in they WOULD TRULY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW JESUS...which is, by The Grace of God,
DIE TO SELF, (not evilly use religion to preserve evil serpent of self),
take up their death to self, and follow Jesus, that they may Eternally Have or Possess Jesus in Holy Marriage...just for Himself...and never eternally, for any evil self-interest.
God told The True Apostle Paul, in Galatians1:8,
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Well...that is clear instructions that Mohammed is DEAD wrong...cuz Mohammed claimed that the angel Gabriel told him his revelations of God.
but all the false imans of islam are like using false religion to stay in power...just like the ancient evil pharisees of Jesus' time
mohammed was deceived and received DECEITFUL TEACHINGS
by satan posing as the angel Gabriel...
while Joseph Smith of mormon infamy was deceived by satan AND received DECEITFUL teachings posing as the angel moroni...
Thank God, thru Jesus Christ alone forever truly only, we see that satan has a NO POWER, game of DECEIT.
And God promised The True Apostle John that His eternally sworn enemies, the evil world would be deceived, by satan...little by little...until the time of antichrist...in the last days
"They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie" 2Thess. 2:10b-11
Revelation 12:9. Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, ...
OUR ONLY HOPE, Christian, Jew, or heathen,
IS TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRULY AND FOREVER
1 - FULLY TRUST IN GOD AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF WITHIN OUR HUMAN SPIRITS, ALONE FOREVER TRULY ONLY, FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL (ACTS16:3031) SALVATION, (zechariah<cite> 13:9)</cite> (<cite>zephaniah3:9)</cite>PURIFICATION, AND PERFECTION (PSALMS138:8)
2 - FULLY (1PETER5:7) CASTING OR ABANDONING ALL OF OURSELVES AND EVERY THING THAT WORRIES US INTO THE TRULY MERCIFUL ARMS OF GOD AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF ALONE FOREVER TRULY ONLY, BOTH IN TIME AND IN ETERNITY
It Is Written, in Jude 1:24-25
24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,25To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Christ must save, and Christ alone
God told all through the True Apostle Paul, in Ephesians 6:24,
"Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen."
Dear Tranquility,
Your question opens up a whole can of worms (questions) that ONLY God Our Father and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself can teach you, little by little by personal experience.
But God, by the Grace of God, requires His True Children to get in right relationship and stay in right relationship with Him, by doing our God Priviledged Part which is that WE ourselves are truly and WHOLEHEARTEDLY forever committed to:
1 - WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRUST AND SEEK AND LOVE AND ABANDON ALL OF OURSELVES AND ALL OF OUR CONCERNS INTO God and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ HIMSELF, only for God and Jesus Himself, unused and untarnished by any evil self-interest, WHO TRULY DWELLS IN THE MIDST (Zephaniah 3:17) of our human spirits,
in THE TRUE HOLY OF HOLIES, WHERE God Our Father and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself truly and forever dwells
In a nutshell...I will share some spritual Truths that God and Jesus has shown me from my own personal experiences as I have both worked with and dealt with Muslims
The Truth is that the muslim CULT just like all other cults has pieces of Truth in it, along with pieces of falsehood, or leaven (unbelief, worldliness, hypocrisy or acting) as Jesus warned about the religious of His Day, the evil leaven, especially the evil leaven of believing Deceit or false teaching, rather that God and Jesus Himself, The Only Way, Truth, Life, and Light of God
God's Own Eternally Just and Eternally True judgement...From The Beginning declares the problem, "Through DECEIT, they (the world) REFUSE to KNOW me.
And God told King Solomon, "TO KNOW THEE, LORD, IS LIFE ETERNAL
and God told The True Apostle John, "And this is the condemnation, that men LOVED darkness (their own evil selfish way) rather than Light (Jesus Himself within their human spirits) because their DEEDS or actions were evil.
In other words, men preferred their sin in this temporary mortal life, instead of WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRUSTING and SEEKING and LOVING GOD'S ONLY TRULY TRUE AND PERFECT AND MERCIFUL HOLY WAY OF SUFFERING PAIN WITH JESUS ON THE CROSS in this evil mortal life moment by moment daily until Jesus Himself returns for them.
God has shown me...tell all whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, or heathen about The Person of Jesus, Who Himself alone was
The True Faith of Abraham...and that if we (whosoever will chooses) will to simply do as Abraham did...which is to WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE AND TRUST AND SEEK AND LOVE WORSHIP JESUS HIMSELF
alone forever truly only...then God Himself, will declare them righteous ONLY IN CHRIST...NEVER OF OUR WORKS OR SELF OR SELF EFFORT...which are naturally evil due to Adam's Transgression.
and again, "Multitudes, Multitudes, in the valley of decision."
1 - The Muslims believe that 5 books are Holy:
a - The Holy Psalms of God
b - The Torah (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy)
c - All true prophets Old Testament prophets of The Lord God of Abraham
d - The Book of Abraham (which is truly a very Scriptural and Holy ancient book of God, like The Dead Sea Scrolls, but not incorporated into the other 66 Holy Scriptures of God known as The Holy Bible)
e - The Koran
the muslims are truly correct on 4 out of 5...but just like Jesus said of His own people after the flesh...so Jesus says to all..."unless you believe that I (Jesus) Am HE (THE TRUE MESSIAH) OF GOD,
you will die in your sins."
and just like any other denomination, including the Christian community, they have their share of evil false prophets or imans,
who try to use religion for their own evil self-interests to maintain power and control over others and preserve their own evil love of self...instead of doing what Jesus said all MUST DO...in they WOULD TRULY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW JESUS...which is, by The Grace of God,
DIE TO SELF, (not evilly use religion to preserve evil serpent of self),
take up their death to self, and follow Jesus, that they may Eternally Have or Possess Jesus in Holy Marriage...just for Himself...and never eternally, for any evil self-interest.
God told The True Apostle Paul, in Galatians1:8,
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Well...that is clear instructions that Mohammed is DEAD wrong...cuz Mohammed claimed that the angel Gabriel told him his revelations of God.
but all the false imans of islam are like using false religion to stay in power...just like the ancient evil pharisees of Jesus' time
mohammed was deceived and received DECEITFUL TEACHINGS
by satan posing as the angel Gabriel...
while Joseph Smith of mormon infamy was deceived by satan AND received DECEITFUL teachings posing as the angel moroni...
Thank God, thru Jesus Christ alone forever truly only, we see that satan has a NO POWER, game of DECEIT.
And God promised The True Apostle John that His eternally sworn enemies, the evil world would be deceived, by satan...little by little...until the time of antichrist...in the last days
"They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie" 2Thess. 2:10b-11
Revelation 12:9. Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, ...
OUR ONLY HOPE, Christian, Jew, or heathen,
IS TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY TRULY AND FOREVER
1 - FULLY TRUST IN GOD AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF WITHIN OUR HUMAN SPIRITS, ALONE FOREVER TRULY ONLY, FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL (ACTS16:3031) SALVATION, (zechariah<cite> 13:9)</cite> (<cite>zephaniah3:9)</cite>PURIFICATION, AND PERFECTION (PSALMS138:8)
2 - FULLY (1PETER5:7) CASTING OR ABANDONING ALL OF OURSELVES AND EVERY THING THAT WORRIES US INTO THE TRULY MERCIFUL ARMS OF GOD AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF ALONE FOREVER TRULY ONLY, BOTH IN TIME AND IN ETERNITY
It Is Written, in Jude 1:24-25
24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,25To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
