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"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?" - line from The Wreck of the Edmund FitzgeraldI think by the time someone decides to commit mass murder on innocent unarmed kids, the idea of God has never crossed their mind. In my opinion when such a shooter commences with their mass executions, it is those in their sights that need God.
And in Texas, being their gun laws are quite unique given the Castle Doctrine and their carry laws, a fully loaded clip in a 9mm wielded by someone proficient at the trigger wouldn't hurt either. Drop the terrorist and then pray he doesn't have backup.
I have no compassion for the coward that thinks to open up on children because they're just mad and want to take their evil out on unarmed innocent kids . Let that mass murderer find God in prison, or the Devil when he's later judged and goes to Hell.
I save my compassion and prayers for those who deserve it. By the time a psycho decides to target innocents, they've made their choice. God's right there and still that shooter keeps on until they stop of their own accord.
Texas was a Republic until 1845 when it was annexed into the United States. The United States of America is both a Constitutional Republic and a Constitutional Democracy."Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?" - line from The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is not Texas the only state in the Union which remains its own republic?
If justice for mass murder, being that is the topic under discussion, were left to God, every American Christian or no could say daily, God help us!On August 1, 1966, Charles Whitman gained notoriety by becoming the Texas Tower Sniper. His first two victims were his mother and his wife. His first target from the clock tower was a pregnant lady whose unborn child died instantly. Ya can't get more helpless than that. Adam Lanza killed his mother before embarking on his spree. A compassion of sorts?
Somewhere along the way, the thinking processes become distorted and the desire to hurt someone becomes predominant. I agree that those are about to be victimized by such people need the love of God. Those who do such deeds need it even more although as you have mentioned, they have already closed their mind to it. Are we not commanded to pray for our enemies? Did anyone ever think to pray for Saddam Hussein? If not, why not?
I recall watching a documentary on Gary Ridgway. The scene was victim impact statements. Needless to say, he definitely heard their wrath. Remarkably, he behaved as if expecting it and remained unemotional. One bearded gentleman whose daughter was one of his victims, said the Good Book says we are to forgive others. He told Ridgway, "And, you Sir, are forgiven". Ridgway was immediately moved to tears, but quickly reverted back to his previous composure.
I do not disagree that those who do such things will be held accountable in the next life. What God decides on the matter is His choice. Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel. If one does not, does one have the right to complain when life goes south? I am not taking you or anyone to task, just expressing a concept.
Good morning Blunder Duck;Texas was a Republic until 1845 when it was annexed into the United States. The United States of America is both a Constitutional Republic and a Constitutional Democracy.
If justice for mass murder, being that is the topic under discussion, were left to God, every American Christian or no could say daily, God help us!
God's justice comes after life, or some would say during life when people find themselves mired in troubles. However, man's justice is installed to bring those who commit crimes to stand accountable. Before man and before God. Even as an atheist. God and his word were key in the founding of this nation even when we are not a Theocracy.
Forgiveness is not concession. One can forgive those who trespass against them. It does not mean they concede what the trespasser did was not wrong, or did not wrong them.
I have a God Daughter in public school. I can assure you, if she were threatened and I was there, the threat would meet a strong resistance. I have no problem neutralizing that which would victimize an unarmed child. Even if I do not have a relationship like that of Godmother with them. There are some people that ask to be removed from this life. Pedophiles are one. And mass murderers of children are another.
I am not that Christian that is meek and espouse pacifism. I am a Christian made in the image and likeness of the Father that in the old testament did not turn the other cheek when wronged. Or when his people were threatened or harmed.
And I make no apologies for the fact I believe in self defense and the defense of others.
Prison is hell on earth. That's a great place for a mass murderer or a terrorist to spend the rest of their miserable life. However, if they're caught in the act of killing innocents, sending them straight to stand in line for their place in Hell saves tax payer dollars! And I'm all about the savings. And make no apologies for that either.
I'd rather pray for the healing of those that were saved by an armed civilian or professional, than pray the armed devil that put them in the hospital or morgue doesn't get out of prison. Or isn't found not guilty by a jury who heard evidence that was the result of the pre-trial they were unaware of.
In Texas there is such a thing as what is called, the Castle Doctrine. It permits someone to defend life and home, or even the home of another, using lethal force.Good morning Blunder Duck;
Regarding Texas, I guess an American documentary has it wrong. Thank you for the clarification.
I didn't come here to debate whether Christians have the God-given right to send sinners to Hell. I get defending others from oppression. I get accountability, but I leave that to a Judge whose appointment is to uphold the Law.
Good morning Blunder Duck;In Texas there is such a thing as what is called, the Castle Doctrine. It permits someone to defend life and home, or even the home of another, using lethal force.
Likely this law was passed, as was the carry laws in Texas, due to the enormous influx of illegals and cartel into the state.
Just days after the CD was passed into law a 911 call from a Texas homeowner made the news. Broadcast TV and radio. This gentleman had been asked to watch over his next door neighbors house while that family was on vacation. The obliging neighbor telephoned 911 when he saw two Hispanic men break into the home through the front windows. This was daylight hours mind you.
He told the operator to send police quickly because if these men left the home with the neighbors property he was going to shoot. The 911 operator was more concerned with that then dispatching police immediately. As he's listening to the operator counsel him not to act , the man informs her that the two men are now coming out of the windows with the neighbors TV and other items. He drops the phone.
In the background the 911 recording system recorded him screaming at the burglars to stop. Put the stuff down and get on the ground. They apparently refused and tried to leave. He shot them both dead.
After that was done, an undercover detective announces himself to the homeowner. Gun drawn, he had been sitting in his car directly across from the neighbor who's house was broken into the whole time. He saw the two Hispanic men break into the windows in the front of the house. And he saw them coming out with his property. He sat in the car and did nothing.
Until, the neighbor homeowner killed these two men.
That homeowner was arrested.
And later released. Why? Because the Texas Castle Doctrine had gone into effect the day before.
I personally think the Castle Doctrine should be law in all 50 states.
I've been vandalized at my property multiple times, a back part of the property where unoccupied office trailers are set up. The first time I called our state police a person in a uniform driving a state police car showed up. He could care less! He witnessed the damage, the broken triple pained windows. The giant quarry rock that the vandals had carried half an acre from the drainage pond at a housing community that abuts my land, that had been hefted through the front full pane glass door to land at the back wall. All of it. Even the holes in the walls.
What's this state cop tell me? I needed to board up those broken windows! That way , if the vandals returned and climbed back through those triple pane windows they first broke out and cut themselves, and went to the hospital for stitches, I wouldn't have to worry about paying the hospital bill.
Yes, he actually said that.
These were vandals that were so stupid they left a foot print on the back steel door where they'd tried to kick it in. A steel door with hinges on the outside! But they weren't nearly as pathetic an example of poor intellect as was the person in the state police car wearing a uniform was. And who told me, "there's nothing we can do!"
Each and every time those trailers were broken into that's the statement each and every person wearing a state police uniform spewed. Which to me is not so bad really. It demonstrates they're not opposed to informing a property owner they're unfit to be called police because they're lazy and they're cowards.
It also informs the property owner, because I have networked with others who suffer vandalism on their own lands and they get the same depraved indifference remarks from people who are wearing state police uniforms, that the rule of law does not apply in our case. That's great! Because that means vigilante justice is the law of this land.
Then that first cop and each one after informed me that I should lock my doors of my house and be on alert. Because the level of vandalism escalation on my land appears to be moving from the back of the property to the front where my home is.
That's OK, I told those uniformed people. When that happens and they break into my home I'll be calling you to bring body bags so that you can scrape what's left of that vandal scum off my hardwood floors.
When deputized law enforcement don't care, it is up to us to care to survive violent vandals. I have every intention of doing so. I don't need permission. All I need is a straight shot and clear sight on center mass and I promise you I will commit a public service in saving my neighbors and fellow citizens from being victimized by any number of vandals stupid enough to try me.
Is that of God? Someone once asked me when I told them what's happening in this state and the depraved indifference law enforcement shows to the working class.
YES! I said! God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah for its sins. He sent his Hebrew armies to slaughter men, women, children, and even cut the unborn out of the womb of mothers who were members of tribes he wanted destroyed. God drowned every living thing on the planet, including pregnant women, which demonstrates contrary to the pro-life bunch that God is not pro-life, because of the sins the worlds people committed. And he saved but 8 people to repopulate the world choosing a drunkard who was sexed by his daughters, to be that patriarchal leader for those new sinner generations to come.
YES! Self defense and dropping a vandal that breaks in on my family is of God. Even when it is far less violent than his example, it is still self defense. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.If someone breaks into a house they show they have no respect for their own life. How would anyone think such a one would respect theirs once they've gained entry through violent means?
That judges lament meant nothing when justice was not served. And she is directly responsible for all assaults and rapes that those defendants will commit in her country in future because she failed to act to stop them, by law, when she had the power and the chance.Good morning Blunder Duck;
I certainly understand your anger and do not blame you for it. Those who uphold the Law can make bizarre decisions. Two stories come to mind. One involved a burgler who had to subsist a week on near empty pop cans and dog food in a garage. He sued and was awarded a settlement of half a million dollars. Another was of a case in Toronto in which a woman was repeatedly raped by a gang of recent immigrants. The female Judge declared that they had not been here long enough to understand the Law. She publicly lamented later about where was her head during the sentencing.
I work for a company whose respect for the rules of others is based on "How much will it cost if I get caught and they make an issue of it?". Have a great day.