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I’m pretty sure I did the one sin that can’t be forgiven...

So, I was reading Matthew, and then I read about the unforgivable sin. Of course, my mind calls the Holy Spirit a bad word. I freaked out because I thought I did the sin, called my dad, and said to him what my mind said. (Like: I called the Holy Spirit a _____).

I didn’t realize doing that was the actual sin. Then, I kept praying to God for a sign that I was forgiven. I hadn’t really understood that’s not okay and that satan could do something instead.

I thought God gave me three signs, and I kept telling people about the signs SO HAPPILY! I didn’t realize it wasn’t really okay to do something like this...but when I did realize, I freaked out!

Then, I was getting these bad thoughts and feelings. I told them to go away and for the devil to stop playing with my mind. However, before this I was telling my mom about how I thought God was talking to me and giving me signs...so I’m worried that feeling was actually conviction.

Finally, I saw a dead animal on the road and said demonic. WHY!?

I feel horrible. Lost. Broken. It has been three weeks. I’ve been born again for four weeks.

People keep saying I didn’t do this sin, but how can I know? People have so many theories on this sin.
 
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I’m pretty sure I did the one sin that can’t be forgiven...

So, I was reading Matthew, and then I read about the unforgivable sin. Of course, my mind calls the Holy Spirit a bad word. I freaked out because I thought I did the sin, called my dad, and said to him what my mind said. (Like: I called the Holy Spirit a _____).

I didn’t realize doing that was the actual sin. Then, I kept praying to God for a sign that I was forgiven. I hadn’t really understood that’s not okay and that satan could do something instead.

I thought God gave me three signs, and I kept telling people about the signs SO HAPPILY! I didn’t realize it wasn’t really okay to do something like this...but when I did realize, I freaked out!

Then, I was getting these bad thoughts and feelings. I told them to go away and for the devil to stop playing with my mind. However, before this I was telling my mom about how I thought God was talking to me and giving me signs...so I’m worried that feeling was actually conviction.

Finally, I saw a dead animal on the road and said demonic. WHY!?

I feel horrible. Lost. Broken. It has been three weeks. I’ve been born again for four weeks.

People keep saying I didn’t do this sin, but how can I know? People have so many theories on this sin.
Remember that so many expositors and commentators don't have everything right and they often use scare tactics to get people to repent. I really think that just like APOSTASY - most Christians don't understand what ,"Blasphemy against the holy spirit" really is. This is what I think.

First, the word AGAINST is not in the original text!

Second - look at the context. Who is Jesus talking to and why did he say what he did.

The Chapter starts out with Jesus' disciples picking corn on the Sabbath, and the Pharisees questioned him about their actions. Then Jesus heals a man's withered hand in the temple and the Pharisees are infuriated and conspire to kill him. Jesus gets out of there and the multitudes follow him.

Then Jesus heals someone who is blind and dumb and has a demon. When the Pharisees heard about Jesus casting out demons, they attributed it to the devil. Please read what happens AFTER that - and what Jesus said to them...

Mathew 12:22-30 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Putting the following two verse into context.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Remember - Jesus said that to the Pharisees who attributed Jesus healing on the Sabbath to demons. So - blasphemy (against) - to blaspheme the holy spirit is to attribute the holy spirits power to the demons.

The next verse totally debunks the trinity. Why? Because Trinitarians teach that Jesus, and the holy spirit are co-equal. So - blasphemy against one would be blasphemy against the other. But notice what Jesus said in verse 32...

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Bottom line is - holy spirit blasphemy is attributing that which comes from God's holy spirit to the devil - and it was directed to the Pharisees who continually did that.

This is just one more reason why I'm adamantly against people attributing the evils we find coming in the last days to the "apostate church" and why I'm adamantly against God accidently killing innocent people in the rapture.
 
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Remember that so many expositors and commentators don't have everything right and they often use scare tactics to get people to repent. I really think that just like APOSTASY - most Christians don't understand what ,"Blasphemy against the holy spirit" really is. This is what I think.

First, the word AGAINST is not in the original text!

Second - look at the context. Who is Jesus talking to and why did he say what he did.

The Chapter starts out with Jesus' disciples picking corn on the Sabbath, and the Pharisees questioned him about their actions. Then Jesus heals a man's withered hand in the temple and the Pharisees are infuriated and conspire to kill him. Jesus gets out of there and the multitudes follow him.

Then Jesus heals someone who is blind and dumb and has a demon. When the Pharisees heard about Jesus casting out demons, they attributed it to the devil. Please read what happens AFTER that - and what Jesus said to them...

Mathew 12:22-30 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Putting the following two verse into context.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Remember - Jesus said that to the Pharisees who attributed Jesus healing on the Sabbath to demons. So - blasphemy (against) - to blaspheme the holy spirit is to attribute the holy spirits power to the demons.

The next verse totally debunks the trinity. Why? Because Trinitarians teach that Jesus, and the holy spirit are co-equal. So - blasphemy against one would be blasphemy against the other. But notice what Jesus said in verse 32...

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Bottom line is - holy spirit blasphemy is attributing that which comes from God's holy spirit to the devil - and it was directed to the Pharisees who continually did that.

This is just one more reason why I'm adamantly against people attributing the evils we find coming in the last days to the "apostate church" and why I'm adamantly against God accidently killing innocent people in the rapture.
But didn’t I do this when I talked about the animal and the whole conviction thing? I mean...I did it on accident, without understanding at the time it was a bad thing, but would it STILL count?
 
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But didn’t I do this when I talked about the animal and the whole conviction thing? I mean...I did it on accident, without understanding at the time it was a bad thing, but would it STILL count?
You are in good shape whether it was or wasn't an accident. Otherwise - you wouldn't have the desire to seek God. His Spirit is drawing you toward the Lord.
 
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You are in good shape whether it was or wasn't an accident. Otherwise - you wouldn't have the desire to seek God. His Spirit is drawing you toward the Lord.
That’s what I kinda thought, I’m just worried about it saying I’m in danger of eternal sin. If that’s legit, is that why I’m always guilty? It’s been three weeks. I’ve only been born again for four weeks. I’m just worried I somehow lost my salvation is legit one week. I’m praying I pull a Paul or something
 
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That’s what I kinda thought, I’m just worried about it saying I’m in danger of eternal sin. If that’s legit, is that why I’m always guilty? It’s been three weeks. I’ve only been born again for four weeks. I’m just worried I somehow lost my salvation is legit one week. I’m praying I pull a Paul or something
The evil ones will always try to make you accuse yourself and feel guilty - and - make believe something that's not true. Get it out of your head, that's where it can germinate and develop into feelings of failure.
 
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That's not the unforgivable sin. I even did it on purpose when I was just saved and there was a spider in front of the door, so I couldn't get in the house and wanted God to kill me, so I said that what the pharisees said and He didn't kill me, but He forgave me and set me free. I once got a word from God through someone with prophetic gifts. He said: I am not impressible for lies and accusations that the devil makes about you.
 
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Our Lord and Savior says in John 6:37-
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Can a person still come to Christ who has blasphemed The Holy Spirit?
 
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That's not the unforgivable sin. I even did it on purpose when I was just saved and there was a spider in front of the door, so I couldn't get in the house and wanted God to kill me, so I said that what the pharisees said and He didn't kill me, but He forgave me and set me free. I once got a word from God through someone with prophetic gifts. He said: I am not impressible for lies and accusations that the devil makes about you.
What does that last part mean? :)
 
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Isn't the unforgiveable sin when a person attributes something that God / Jesus Christ has done to satan. Someone has said that That could only be done while Jesus Christ as here on earth.

When a person rejects Jesus Christ's salvation, there's nothing else available To accept -- so when a person dies without Jesus Christ -- they won't be in heaven.

So -- instead of being in a state of panick -- talk to God about your fear -- confess -- ask forgiveness and thank Him For His forgiveness.
 
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Isn't the unforgiveable sin when a person attributes something that God / Jesus Christ has done to satan
Exactly. The Bible tells us what it is.

Matt 12:26; "If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand?
Matt 12:27; "If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges.
Matt 12:28; "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Matt 12:29; "Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.
Matt 12:30; "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
Matt 12:31; "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.


They accuse Jesus of having a demon, and casting out demons by the ruler of the demons. Jesus asks... then how can his kingdom stand?

Luke 11:17; But He knew their thoughts and said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and a house divided against itself falls.
Luke 11:18; "If Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul.
Luke 11:19; "And if I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? So they will be your judges.
Luke 11:20; "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Luke 11:21; "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.
Luke 11:22; "But when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied and distributes his plunder.


So which is it? Does Jesus cast out demons by the power of Satan, or the power of God? Be very careful how you answer this, because...

Mark is the one that tells us what is really going on here.

Mark 3:22; The scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, "He is possessed by Beelzebul," and "He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons."
Mark 3:23; And He called them to Himself and began speaking to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan?
Mark 3:24; "If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
Mark 3:25; "If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand.
Mark 3:26; "If Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished!
Mark 3:27; "But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.
Mark 3:28; "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
Mark 3:29; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"

Mark 3:30; because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit."

Jesus told them, it's OK if you blaspheme against the Father, or even the Son.. but not against the Holy Spirit. Why did He say this?
Because they were attributing something the Holy Spirit was doing to Satan. (casting out demons by the power of Satan)
When in reality, it was by the power of God, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

We can blaspheme Jesus ( I wouldn't recommend it ), but not the Holy Spirit.

Matt 12:32; "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Luke 12:10; "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.


Be very careful who you give the credit to, when God is doing something.

As far as rejecting God. I don't recommend that either. But this is forgiveable. Many people I know, and even myself rejected God for years.
I have family members and friends I am praying for right now, they have rejected God, but I still pray for them.
If rejecting God is unforgivable, then anyone who ever said "no" to God, before they said "yes", can NEVER be forgiven. This is hogwash.

1 Thes 4:3; For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
1 Thes 4:8; So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

Have you ever committed adultery? Homosexuality? How about fornication? Did you ever have sex with someone you weren't married to? How about masturbation?
How about pornography? If you've ever committed sexual immorality, you've rejected God.

If you can't ever be forgiven for this, then almost everyone is lost, They can never be forgiven.
But blasphemy of the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with rejecting God.

The prodigal son rejected his father (for a while). But the father took him back, so will your "Father".
 
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As far as rejecting God. I don't recommend that either. But this is forgiveable. Many people I know, and even myself rejected God for years.
I think if we are honest, we should be, we must be, we have all rejected God at some stage. We are all born into sin, into a world full of sin, it is easy to be influenced, especially when we are younger, especially at school.

To be honest I had never knew there was one until in my early teens when I was made go to the village church, a new guy had arrived, a new vicar, Mr nice guy. But I was made go to church to learn how to be good. I remember the Lord's Prayer in assembly, but nothing more and I didn't listen anyway, I was always larking around.

But after three periods of sexual abuse by the vicar over a two year period, probably about eighteen months overall with two period when I broke away because of the abuse. It wasn't until the final time I broke away that hate began to fester, first I hated him, then I hated what he stood for, him, church, God. For many years from then to being 40 and accepting Christ I said some nasty things about God, but in time, regardless of the hate, cutting people up with words who even mentioned God or Jesus, eventually I was brought to my knees.

Many people have their own stories of how they would fight against coming to God, He understands. I have learnt since then that God loves there to be a battle in us, if there is not a battle for our soul we really are spiritually dead. In the battle for the soul we say things we will never say when we are saved, God understands, He takes the flack. God also loves a searching heart, because if the heart is searching the Holy Spirit is working on the soul, the devil hates a search heart and that is why he attacks us in every way he can.

The last thing the devil wants is for us to come to Christ and be Saved.

Luke 15:10
"I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.”
 
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I’m pretty sure I did the one sin that can’t be forgiven...

So, I was reading Matthew, and then I read about the unforgivable sin. Of course, my mind calls the Holy Spirit a bad word. I freaked out because I thought I did the sin, called my dad, and said to him what my mind said. (Like: I called the Holy Spirit a _____).

I didn’t realize doing that was the actual sin. Then, I kept praying to God for a sign that I was forgiven. I hadn’t really understood that’s not okay and that satan could do something instead.

I thought God gave me three signs, and I kept telling people about the signs SO HAPPILY! I didn’t realize it wasn’t really okay to do something like this...but when I did realize, I freaked out!

Then, I was getting these bad thoughts and feelings. I told them to go away and for the devil to stop playing with my mind. However, before this I was telling my mom about how I thought God was talking to me and giving me signs...so I’m worried that feeling was actually conviction.

Finally, I saw a dead animal on the road and said demonic. WHY!?

I feel horrible. Lost. Broken. It has been three weeks. I’ve been born again for four weeks.

People keep saying I didn’t do this sin, but how can I know? People have so many theories on this sin.
How could I know either? Actually how could anyone else know if you've commited the unforgivable sin? Best not to ask people something only your God would know. But if it turns out that you have crossed your God that way, and if he doesn't say anything back to you about it. Then will you ever know until that day you stand before him?
 
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The fact that you're so upset at the possibility Of -- you haven't. But Do talk to God about it. Tell Him exactly how you feel and ask forgiveness. See if That doesn't help you feel better inside.
 
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I’m pretty sure I did the one sin that can’t be forgiven...

So, I was reading Matthew, and then I read about the unforgivable sin. Of course, my mind calls the Holy Spirit a bad word. I freaked out because I thought I did the sin, called my dad, and said to him what my mind said. (Like: I called the Holy Spirit a _____).

I didn’t realize doing that was the actual sin. Then, I kept praying to God for a sign that I was forgiven. I hadn’t really understood that’s not okay and that satan could do something instead.

I thought God gave me three signs, and I kept telling people about the signs SO HAPPILY! I didn’t realize it wasn’t really okay to do something like this...but when I did realize, I freaked out!

Then, I was getting these bad thoughts and feelings. I told them to go away and for the devil to stop playing with my mind. However, before this I was telling my mom about how I thought God was talking to me and giving me signs...so I’m worried that feeling was actually conviction.

Finally, I saw a dead animal on the road and said demonic. WHY!?

I feel horrible. Lost. Broken. It has been three weeks. I’ve been born again for four weeks.

People keep saying I didn’t do this sin, but how can I know? People have so many theories on this sin.

Dear sister, you are falling into a trap many have fallen into in the past, read this message in the link below.

You are wrestling with fear that you have committed the unforgivable sin, what is clear from what you say is, you are truly sorry, but even though you are sorry, the fear of committing the sin will not go away.

We pray you will released from the chains that are binding you, we pray that the chains will break free and fall away, and that you dear sister will be set free.
We ask this in Jesus Name. Amen.

Now, open your heart to God in prayer, tell Him how sorry you are, tell Him, you want to know and be set free, and Praise the Lord you will be set free, free indeed.

Pray the Lord will give you an open heart and that the Holy Spirit will guide your heart and mind, you have not committed the unforgivable sin lattelily, you have not, the problem is that the understanding of this scripture is not understood in its right context.

Trust in the Lord sister, in the link below is the best explanation I have come across, pray before reading, pray after reading and let us join you in Thanks and Praise, to God be the Glory, Jesus is Lord. In Jesus Name we pray in faith with you. Amen

Peace be with you always


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