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Isn't trinity a main doctrine?For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.Or
New International Verson
For there are three that bear record in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one.
21st Century King James Version
There are minor differences in the manuscripts that translators work from. Since the King James Version was produced, scholars found older Greek manuscripts, which they considered to be more reliable.
The most likely explanation is that somewhere along the way, a scribe added an explanatory note to the text and this got passed on. Most modern translations indicate with a footnote where there is disputed text. For example in the NIV the footnote says: Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)
These discrepancies in the text are well known, and no major doctrine hangs on any of them.
I do not embrace the trinity as many here apparently do. I embrace God according to what He really is. What is that? God certainly knows and He will let us know what we need to know if we are sincerely seeking first His kingdom and His righteousness.Not for you? Are you non trinitarian?
Hmm. What about your belief in Jesus as son of God?I do not embrace the trinity as many here apparently do. I embrace God according to what He really is. What is that? God certainly knows and He will let us know what we need to know if we are sincerely seeking first His kingdom and His righteousness.
The verse you're looking for is vs 8....The Spirit the Water and the Blood. I'm not sure why some versions say it this way but it is there. So...The Spirit is the Holy Spirit, the Blood is the blood of Jesus and the Water is the Father, that part I don't understand.....We need to pray over this? Holy Spirit is our teacher.Hi Everyone,
While reading John chapters I came across 1 John 5:7.
i realised its not in RSV!
Why is that so?
I do believe what is written in the scriptures but as you already know all of those who believe in the scriptures do not always agree with each other on every point. This is why the Apostle Paul wrote these words:Hmm. What about your belief in Jesus as son of God?
Moving closer to which God? A flower isn't a rock. A bird isn't a horse. A god that doesn't incorporate Jesus isn't a God.When we recognize why he came and are moving closer to God as a result
How can you love God if you don't know who He is? How can you love God if you don't believe in what He is? Many people.. love many gods.Too often we demand black and white answers to our questions simply to satisfy our own curiosity rather than mover closer to God because we really love Him.
Is this right place and the right thread to even discuss these things?Moving closer to which God? A flower isn't a rock. A bird isn't a horse. A god that doesn't incorporate Jesus isn't a God.
Any other god is a false god.
2 Cor 6:15; Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
There are dozens of verses that say Jesus is God. You can change your thinking to match the Bible, or you can change
your "Bible" to match your thinking. For many people the latter is preferable.
Was Jesus just a "good man" or just a "prophet"?
Matt 16:13; Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?"
Matt 16:14; And they said, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets."
Matt 16:15; He *said to them, " But who do you say that I am?"
Matt 16:16; Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt 16:17; And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
Matt 16:18; "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.
Or was He actually God?
Matt 1:23; "BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "GOD WITH US."
How can you love God if you don't know who He is? How can you love God if you don't believe in what He is? Many people.. love many gods.
What is it that you know rather than believe by faith? Consider the situation of Thomas:How can you love God if you don't know who He is? How can you love God if you don't believe in what He is? Many people.. love many gods.
Discussion of the trinity was not my point. Sorry for having disturbed you. You look to doctrines which are not essential to salvation and call them essential for you say to oppose them is a devil's doctrine and the spirit of the anti-Christ. Obviously we disagree.Where else would you like to talk about the trinity, other than a trinity thread?
This isn't just another opinion thing. This is a doctrine of demons. This is the spirit of the anti-Christ.
It isn't just my opinion. It's scripture.
To teach any other god on here... is just plain and simple not the God of the Bible.
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