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The Wise Mens' Star

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Matt 2:8-9a . . And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said: Go and search
diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again,
that I may come and worship him also.

. . .When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw
in the east, went before them,

A star that moves from the east towards the west is normal. But a star that moves
from the north to the south, is unheard of.

Matt 2:9b . . It came and stood over where the young child was.

I have been outside at night on many occasions during my 76 years on this planet
and have never been able to tell which of the stars in the sky was directly over my
neighbor's house. And if I move this way or that way, the stars move with me;
which makes the task all that more difficult. The problem is, normal stars, and
planets too, are so far away that the angle of their parallax is much too small for
the naked eye to detect.

So then, in order for that star to direct the wise men to the precise location where
the child was housed, it would have to be very low in the sky; for sure at least in
the atmosphere rather than out in the void.

Plus: people, as a rule, didn't travel at night back in that day due to insufficient
means of illumination; so the men very likely followed the star in broad daylight.
Well; as most people are aware, the stars are near to impossible for the naked eye
to see in broad daylight due to the sun's brilliance.

So then, I must conclude that the star that led the men wasn't a celestial object,
rather, it was a special apparition instead.

The question often arises: How did the men know to follow the star?

Well; that's not too difficult to sleuth. According to Matt 2:12 I'm pretty sure that
we may safely assume the men had been in touch with God the entire expedition
from first to last.
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Matt 2:11 . . .They entered the house where the child and his mother, Mary, were,
and they fell down before him and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasure
chests and gave him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

With enough imagination, just about anything can be forced to be symbolic.
Personally, I tend to be a bit more practical.

In those days gold was real money, and frankincense and myrrh were valuable
commodities. I suggest that the men simply offered the ordinary kinds of tributes
that royalty was accustomed to receiving in those days from visiting dignitaries; in
other words: what the men did was just normal protocol because it was their
understanding that Jesus was a king. (Matt 2:2)

The tributes were providential too because very soon Joseph would be needing
something of value to finance his family's temporary residence in Egypt.
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The two-year time frame related to Herod's Holocaust wasn't referenced from the
day that the magi spoke with him. Herod marked the beginning with the day the
magi first saw the apparition back in their homeland.

Matt 2:2 . .We have seen his star in the east

Matt 2:7 . . Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, inquired of
them diligently what time the star appeared.

Matt 2:16 . . Herod gave orders to kill all the boys in accordance with the time he
had learned from the Magi.

It's commonly assumed the magi set out on their journey the very day that they
spotted the apparition in their homeland; but I don't think we can be certain that
they did.

Plus, it appears from Matt 2:12 that the apparition alone wasn't their only guide. In
other words: I think it reasonable to believe that the magi learned the meaning of
this curious object from God rather than from books, and began preparing an
expedition only after He instructed them to rather than on their own initiative.
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I cannot tell you how messed up I am and my house;

my father's name is david
my mother's name is merry
i went to Joseph's church or ltds

HOLY GOD, PLEASE DELIVER ME,

i've been losing my mind for almost two god damn years
 

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