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The meaning of life

Mikalister

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God is almighty and all knowing. God knows who will make it to heaven and who will not since the world came into existence. If that is so then why would God have a spirit go into a body that is destined to hell by their own choice that is, not by God's choice. But in turn God knew what was going to happen at the end of that person's existence. This world is all controlled my man. Everything and anything created by man is destined to fail. Because imperfectness cannot create something perfect. So in that sense as Well we are in life subjected to how man controls the world i.e. economically, nationally etc. God knew what was going to happen, why would he subject his creation into something tha is destined to fail. He could of just stopped everything in it's tracks. I understand that this all goes back to adam and eve, and that where we are at is because of them. God knew adam and eve were going to fail, he's God. But I was thinking that just like we have choices in life, these choices will lead us into different directions based on the choice. So because adam and eve were perfect they ultimately still had a choice to not eat the fruit. Just like the angels that are with Satan also had a choice. It's just a question/theory, I wonder if it had to wait on the choice of adam and eve to eat the fruit in order for God to know. Why would God even put a tree in the garden knowing that they were going to eat it? Why would God even create one of his top angels knowing that he was going to betray God? Thank you for you time, and I look forward to hearing from you.
 
God is almighty and all knowing. God knows who will make it to heaven and who will not since the world came into existence. If that is so then why would God have a spirit go into a body that is destined to hell by their own choice that is, not by God's choice.
Pop christianity doesn't really hold up to logic or scripture.
God is love.
Any answer must include that in the equation.
Any answer must fit all scripture, I have never seen an explanation that fits all scripture.

Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

This scripture does not fit well with the traditional ideas of heaven and hell so until we can figure out how this verse fits in
we are not getting a clear picture.

Our traditional concepts are not even logical in their own context.
It's not God's will that any should perish and we are told God's will shall be done.

Proverbs 21:30 There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan that can succeed against the LORD.
Proverbs 21:1 The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases.
Proverbs 20:24 A man’s steps are directed by the LORD. How then can anyone understand his own way?
Proverbs 16:9 In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps

If a man can't understand his own way then how can he make an informed decision about eternity.

John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

We will also have to explain why it appears to our senses that Father does not draw everyone.
God can direct our hearts like the land directs a river and he directs it where he pleases.

Eternity means N'no beginning,no end,always was and always will be so how do we begin eternal torture or eternal bliss.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
It seems Jesus be began a temporal life and never left the eternal one.

So I think if you are seeing contradictions in traditional teaching it is only because you are paying attention.
Every pastor I have asked these questions to told me that I should probably look elsewhere because they did not understand my questions.

Jesus said "all who came before me were thieves and robbers" and Jesus was hung between thieves so it's no surprise that everyone who came after him are thieves and robbers also.
And the sheep still don't listen to them.
Because they know the masters voice.
 
I haven't been to church in a while to see the contradictions in teaching. But Christianity as a whole I feel like it is ok a different path than it should be on. I don't trust churches. I have my faith in God, my relationship with him is what saves me not churches. I firmly believe that we are coming upon the sixth trumpet in revelation. So I believe in a post tribulation rapture. I have tried to talk to the pastors of the churches around me about revelation and why they sieve in a pretrib doctrine and they will not talk with me. We are coming close to many major things that these churches do not talk about. A lot of them are all about the money. My question at hand since you think the same way as I do. Why would God let all of everything happen if he knew the outcome of everything?
 
I gave up having some kind of belief system because every time I learned something I had to adjust my beliefs to the point where I had to almost start over trying to understand.However the more I examine my own belief systems the more flaw I would find.
I found the same thing you experienced at churches.They were seeking converts more than truth.

So I am just believing Jesus when he says he is the truth.
The truth does not change and since I can learn then I can't be learning(learning requires change) truth but maybe just facts that are sometimes true but almost never truth because Jesus is the truth.

So I gave up belief systems and adopted a belief goal and that is to believe one the one whom God sent.
To believe Jesus is to believe the truth.To know Jesus is to know the truth.

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Anything that is not truth is false and we are to cast down false imaginations.
So we are living in a false imagination and anything false is not real.
Only God and his original creation is real.
He created everything good and since it was not good that the man be alone then God did not make him alone,therefore Adam's imagination made him believe he was alone.
 
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