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The Last Supper 2021

Beetow

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Passover this year begins at sunset on the 27th of March; which is a Saturday, viz:
the pesach lamb is supposed to be dedicated, slain, and roasted with fire Saturday
afternoon in preparation for dinner that night in accord with Ex 12:1-21.

This year's Passover is interesting because the beginning coincides with the end of
the weekly sabbath; so pious Jews will have to observe two consecutive holy
days this year seeing as how Passover itself is a holy day (Ex 12:16 & Lev 23:5-8)
and that's regardless of which day of the week it falls on. In other words; the day of
the routine weekly sabbath is pinned to Saturday while Passover's special day
floats.

FYI: Other floating holy days are Yom Kippur and the Feast of Trumpets which are
themselves specifically categorized as sabbaths (Lev 16:29-34 & Lev 23:23-25)
implying that any holy day whereupon no work is allowed, regardless of its position
in the week, is observed the same as a normal sabbath day. It is very essential to
keep this in mind in order to avoid making a mistake when charting the chronology
of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection.

Jesus ate his last pesach the night of his arrest (Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17,
and Luke 22:7-15) whereas the Jews ate their own pesach after Jesus was dead
and buried. (John 13:1-2, John 18:28-29, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31)

In other words: Jesus ate his own pesach early, i.e. one night ahead of the Jews'
night.

So then seeing as how the Jews are supposed to eat their pesach Saturday night
this year; then Jesus, were he to be crucified in 2021, would be eating his last
supper Friday night and then crucified and buried Saturday afternoon prior to
sunset. In other words: Jesus would be spending his first of three nights in the
tomb while the Jews are at home processing their Seders.
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then Jesus, were he to be crucified in 2021, would be eating his last
supper Friday night and then crucified and buried Saturday afternoon prior to
sunset.
Sorry this is wrong
Jesus was crucified on the Wednesday - the middle of the week equivalent to 31/2 of 7 - as foretold in Daniel.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, > "it is finished"
Buried Wednesday evening before Yom Kippur - the day of atonement - Jesus was in the tomb for three days and three nights as prophesied by himself in Matthew 12:40
In the tomb from Wednesday evening to Saturday evening - risen the first day of the week before dawn as the women found out.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, since it was Preparation, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the sabbath (for of that sabbath the day was high), asked Pilate that their legs be broken, and they be taken away.
Yom Kippur was on Thursday and how appropriate - the one day of the year for the high priest to enter the holy of holies and sprinkle blood over the mercy seat ... and thus the veil was torn open.
Heb 2:17 Whence it behooved him in all things to be made like his brethren, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

Heb 9:11 But Christ having come a high priest of the good things that are come, through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,
12 nor yet through blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered once for all into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.
 
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Sorry this is wrong

I suspect you may have your eras mixed up.

Post No.1 pertains to Christ's crucifixion as if it were to take place this year in 2021,
whereas you are apparently talking about the date of his actual crucifixion back then.
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FYI: Other floating holy days are Yom Kippur and the Feast of Trumpets which are
themselves specifically categorized as sabbaths
so when is Yom Kippur in 2021 for the day before would be the day of crucifixion.
 
so when is Yom Kippur in 2021 for the day before would be the day of crucifixion.

Christ was crucified and buried just prior to Passover, which pertains to the
feast of Unleavened Bread rather Yom Kippur.
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Jesus ate his own pesach early, i.e. one night ahead of the Jews' night.

Working with that information, it becomes really easy to chart Jesus' three nights in
the tomb for the year 2021 in accord with Matt 12:40.

This year Jesus would eat his last supper on Friday night March 26, wherein he
would also be arrested; and then next day Saturday March 27 stand trial, be
executed, and laid to rest.

So his three nights in the tomb for the year 2021 would be Saturday night, Sunday
night, and Monday night; with his resurrection taking place early Tuesday morning.

FYI: I've deliberately limited my chart to the three nights Jesus predicted in Matt
12:40 in order to avoid controversy over the placement of the three days.

NOTE: I highly recommend avoiding the impulse to force 24-hour days into the
narrative; and instead just let days be when the sun is up and nights be when the
sun is down, in accord with John 11:9-10.
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NOTE: I highly recommend avoiding the impulse to force 24-hour days into the
narrative; and instead just let days be when the sun is up and nights be when the
sun is down, in accord with John 11:9-10.
You have pulled the rug out from under your feet.
In the OT and in the Law a day was 24 hours - from sunset to sunset or rather evening to evening - 6PM to 6PM
So as Peter correctly informed the gathered Jews for the feast of Pentecost
"For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day." - that is 9AM
Jesus was in the tomb for at least 72 hours > 3 lots of 24 hours from evenings to evenings.
 
Christ was crucified and buried just prior to Passover, which pertains to the
feast of Unleavened Bread rather Yom Kippur.
I doubt that very much.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a feast that is generally mistaken for Passover. Passover however is only one 24 hour period while Feast of Unleavened Bread lasts for seven days.
John described the day after the crucifixion as a high day - one day, not seven, not a feast.
and with Jesus Christ being our High Priest it is much more spiritually and doctrinally significant for this day to be Yom Kippur - the Day of Atonement.
John 19:31 Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.
 
In the OT and in the Law a day was 24 hours - from sunset to sunset or rather
evening to evening

Seeing as how Jesus actually lived in the land of Israel those many years ago, then
it is my opinion that he is better qualified to define the hours of day and night
back then in his era than either you or I.

Accord to him: days were when the Sun is up, and nights were when the Sun is
down.

John 11:9-10 . . Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the
day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. But if anyone
walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.

This world's light is of course the Sun as per Gen 1:14-18.

FYI: In the very beginning, God made a distinct difference between night and day
on Earth; so that His day on Earth is not a 24-hour amalgam of light and dark;
rather, His day on Earth is when the Sun is up, and His night on Earth is when the
Sun is down.

Gen 1:4-5 . . God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light
day, and the darkness he called night.

Gen 1:14 . . And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to
divide the day from the night

Gen 1:16 . .And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and
the lesser light to rule the night.

Gen 1:17-18 . . And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light
upon the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light
from the darkness.

If only people kept those God-given physical characteristics in mind when working
with the days and nights related to Matt 12:40, their calculations would be greatly
simplified.
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Jesus Christ being our High Priest it is much more spiritually and doctrinally
significant for this day to be Yom Kippur - the Day of Atonement.

Jesus was crucified in the Spring of the year, whereas Yom Kippur is a Fall holy day.
In point of fact, Yom Kippur 2021 is scheduled to commence at sundown on
Wednesday, Sept 15 whereas Passover is schedule to commence at sundown on
Saturday, Mar 27.

FYI: Far more emphasis upon Jesus as a lamb rather than a priest.

John 1:29 . .The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the
lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world

1Cor 5:7 . . For Christ, our passover, has been sacrificed.

1Pet 1:18-20 . . For you know that it was not with perishable things such as
silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to
you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect.

Jesus is referred to as a lamb something like 27 times in the book of Revelation.
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John 19:31 . . Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not
remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked
Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.

Jesus dined upon his own Passover lamb early; specifically one night ahead of the
Jews' night. So he was undergoing crucifixion and death on the very day when the Jews
were preparing for their own Seder by removing all traces of leaven from their homes,
and by dedicating, slaughtering, and roasting lambs.

According to information in post No.1, the high day that John spoke of was actually the
first day of the Feast Of Unleavened bread, which commences at night with the Seder.

According to John 11:9-10, Israel's civil days back then usually commenced with sunup,
whereas its high days typically always commenced with sundown.
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Christ was crucified and buried just prior to Passover, which pertains to the
feast of Unleavened Bread rather Yom Kippur.
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Having done a bit more reading on the Feast of Unleavened Bread I am corrected.
Yes this does make doctrinal sense as well - the passover lamb.
Lev 23:7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any ordinary work.
This would be the high day that John writes of and I have noticed that the gospels do indeed refer to preparation for the Passover.
Thankyou.
 
If only people kept those God-given physical characteristics in mind when working
with the days and nights related to Matt 12:40, their calculations would be greatly
simplified.
OK but it is still three lots of days and nights - sunrise to sunrise = one day and one night - full days not partial as Rome would teach.
 
full days not partial as Rome would teach.

A preponderance of textual evidence strongly suggests that Jesus Christ's crucified
dead body was restored to life during the third day rather than later after a full third
day was over and done with.

Matt 17:22-23 . . Jesus said unto them: The Son of man shall be betrayed into the
hands of men: and they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again.

Mark 9:31 . . He taught his disciples, and said unto them: The Son of man is delivered
into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the
third day.

Luke 9:22 . .The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders,
chief priests and teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be
raised to life.

Luke 24:5-8 . . In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground,
but the men said to them: Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not
here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:
"The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the
third day be raised again."

Luke 24:21-23 . .We trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel:
and beside all this, today is the third day since these things were done. Yea, and certain
women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulcher;
and when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision
of angels, which said that he was alive.

Luke 24:46 . . He said unto them: Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to
suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day

Acts 10:40 . . God raised him up the third day

1Cor 15:4 . . he rose again the third day
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A preponderance of textual evidence strongly suggests that Jesus Christ's crucified
dead body was restored to life during the third day rather than later after a full third
day was over and done with.
Hhhhhmmmm very interesting. Food for thought.
I wonder if the time measured by God as to Jesus being dead began from when he died on the cross - the 9th hour? Which is 3PM in the afternoon.
Because if one calculates Wed evening to Thur evening, plus Thur evening to Fri evening; plus Fri evening to Sat evening > so resurrection is before daylight on Sunday.
Does this make Saturday the third day? As in Jewish civil life a day begins at dawn. Sunday has not commenced yet.
 
I wonder if the time measured by God as to Jesus being dead began from when he
died on the cross - the 9th hour? Which is 3PM in the afternoon.

The day that Jesus was crucified coincides with preparation day, which is the day
during which pious Jews prepare for their Seder. That's the day when Passover's
lambs are slain; but it's not till after sundown that the ritual is finalized by they're
consumption.

So then, I do not recommend counting preparation day as one of the three days that
Jesus predicted per Matt 12:40 because the Jews' preparation day was the day of
his own preparation when he too was slain along with all the other lambs, viz: Jesus
didn't become our Seder per 1Cor 5:7 till after sundown.

FAQ: If the ritual isn't finalized till the lambs are consumed: then how does one
finalize Jesus as a Passover? By cannibalizing his remains?

A: Well; the difficulty with cannibalizing Jesus' remains is that there are no
remains. His dead crucified body was restored to life; and yet according to portions
of the sixth chapter of John's gospel, Jesus' flesh must be eaten if people are to have
any hope at all of escaping the sum of all fears.
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Instructions given for the original Passover included painting a lamb's blood on the
doorposts of people's homes. That step in the procedure was never repeated
because all Passovers following the original were for a different purpose.

The original served to protect people from God, whereas succeeding Passovers
protect nobody from God because they merely commemorate the original. This is
very important.

1 Cor 5:7 . . Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us

Now the point is: it's necessary to somehow apply Jesus' blood in order to obtain its
protection.

The original Passover's blood was applied with a brush made of a desert shrub
called hyssop. Quite a few of the expositors that I study under are convinced that
hyssop symbolizes faith. In a nutshell, the application of Jesus' blood is
accomplished by simply believing it's an effective protection from the wrath of God.

And like the original Passover lamb's blood, Jesus' blood has to be applied only
once, and from then on its purpose is merely commemorated by a communion
service sometimes called the Lord's Supper, a.k.a. the Eucharist.
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John 6:53 . . Jesus said to them: Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you drink
the Son Of Man's blood, you have no life in you.

In all the years that I was an active Roman Catholic, not once was I given the wine
species to drink. The obvious conclusion to draw is that I was dead the entire time.

It gets worse:

John 6:56 . . He who drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him

Jesus abides in his own, not visibly, but invisibly, i.e. via his spirit.

Rom 8:9-10 . . But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of
God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because
of righteousness

So then, if transubstantiation effectively conveys Jesus' blood in the wine species
per John 6:54, then due to my being deprived of the wine species, not only was I
dead, but neither was I abiding in Christ nor he abiding in me, and neither was I
his, i.e. not one of Jesus' sheep.

I was on active duty with the 101st Airborne Division during the Cuban missile crisis
back in October of 1962. My unit was fully armed and equipped ready to be in the
air to Cuba within one hour had President Kennedy given us the green light.

Passover is an excellent time of year for many of us to remember how near we
came to eternal suffering at one time or another due to close brushes with death
before we were saved.
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FAQ: Why are wafers wrong for the Communion service?

A: Jesus didn't give his men wafers that night; he gave them pieces of torn bread.
Wafers are too nice; they fail to speak of the violence done to Jesus' body the next
day.

The man that emerged from the three hours of darkness on the cross was so badly
injured that even his own mother wouldn't have recognized him had she not been
there to see for herself.

Isa 52:14 . . Just as there were many who were appalled at him-- his appearance
was so disfigured beyond that of any man, and his form marred beyond human
likeness

Did the Romans do that to Jesus? No; Jesus' destruction was the handiwork of his
own beloved benefactor.

Isa 53:10 . . It was Jehovah's will to crush him and cause him to suffer

If God would do something like that to His own son; think what He might have in
store for folk who mock Jesus' crucifixion, and write it off as a silly fantasy.
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