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The Great Commission

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Here is what Jesus said in Matthew 28:19-20...

19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


This passage of Scripture in Matthew is very powerful. Why is this passage of Scripture so powerful? Because, This passage of Scripture exposes many false teachings in the Christian Church today.

Now, Let us post a very powerful Law of God. Here is God's Law...

1) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.
2) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
3) Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
4) Jacob's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.


So, Looking at the Great Commission, Who is Jesus Christ speaking to? In other words, Who is the specific audience of Matthew 28:19-20?

Well, Before We answer this question, We also need to know something about God's Law. Let us take a look at Psalm 19:7-8...

7. The Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. the testimonies of the Lord are sure, making wise the simple.
8. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: The commandments of the Lord are pure, enlightening the eyes.


A very powerful Psalm isn't? The Law of the Lord is perfect. The Testimonies of the Lord are sure. The Statutes of the Lord are right. And, The Commandments of the Lord are pure.

So, When Christians believe what God says their way of thinking is converted to God's way of thinking, They become wise with Godly Wisdom, their heart rejoices with Truth, and their eyes are open because God shows them the Truth of His Holy Word.

Therefore, When We look at God's Law posted above in Genesis, There should be no disagreements with the outcome of what God says, right? haha...Guess again.

This is the primary reason in my honest opinion why we have several different teachings in the Church today. Many Christians do not agree with God. They do not agree with God because what God says does not match what they believe or they have been taught to believe.

So, Who is Jesus Christ speaking to in Matthew 28:19-20? I will give you the answer of the "normal" dispensational viewpoint. Then, You can look at the Law of God above and see if this viewpoint lines up with the Law of God.

If the answer lines up, Then the answer is right. If the Answer does not line up with the Law of God, Then you will know that the answer is not correct. In my opinion, This is how the Bible should be taught. The Standard is the Law of God and the answer should line up.

Note: The answer should never cause the Law of God to line up with the answer. The Question once again...So, Who is the specific Audience of Matthew 28:19-20? Here is the Law of God once again...

1) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.
2) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
3) Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
4) Jacob's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.


The "Normal" Dispensational answer is...The Christian Church. Now, Looking at the Law of God above, Is this answer right? Or, is this answer wrong? Only You can decide using the Law of God as your Standard of Excellence.

God Bless You!
 
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I must needs coffee...

I dont understand what you are trying to say...

Obviously Jesus was talking to 11 men on a mountain...

Do you mean who is the audience they were commissioned to teach?
 
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I must needs coffee...

I dont understand what you are trying to say...

Obviously Jesus was talking to 11 men on a mountain...
Howdy Coconut!

Yes, Jesus was addressing 11 men and He gave them a very specific instruction.

Coconut--Do you mean who is the audience they were commissioned to teach?
No. What I am asking is Who specifically is Jesus addressing? Just look at the Law of God and simply answer the question with the correct answer provided.

This is just how simple teaching the Bible is. The Question is given and the answer is given. Keeping in mind for the Great Commission, There is only 1 correct answer.

1) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.
2) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
3) Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven.
4) Jacob's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth.


Therefore, What is your selection? 1, 2, 3 or, 4?

God Bless You!
 
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Let us take a look at Matthew 28:18-20 once again. We will look at all three verses here. The Bible says the following words...

Matthew 28:18-20

18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


The Audience here is Jesus and His 11 Disciples. Yes. And, Jesus gives to these 11 Disciples a very specific instruction. But, Who is the specific audience here?

What I label as "Normal" Dispensationalism teaches that these 11 Disciples are the Christian Church. Well, Let us use the Law of God and find out specifically who these 11 men are as well as Jesus Christ.

Let us begin with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of David. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus Christ being the son of David and the Son of God clearly shows what is known as the hypostatic union. Jesus being both God and Man.

In other words, The God Man. And, We can clearly see the Lineage of Christ in Matthew Chapter 1 which goes all the way back to none other than Abraham. Jesus Christ is of the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth beginning with Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

So, To understand who Jesus really is, We must look at the Law God gave to Abraham. Here is what God gave to Abraham...

1) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth. Genesis 13:16
2) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven. Genesis 15:4-5
3) Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven. Genesis 26:4
4) Jacob's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth. Genesis 28:14

This is the Law God gave to Abraham. In Galatians 3:16, We find that Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham. In other words, Jesus Christ is a physical seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

God in His infinite wisdom declares that Abraham's seed would be called in Isaac 3x in Scripture. Genesis 21:12, Romans 9:7 and Hebrews 11:18. Therefore, based on the Law of God, Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham called in Isaac. And, Jesus Christ was and is the promised Messiah.

Now, Let us look at the 11 Disciples. Who are these 11 men specifically? Well, These 11 men are also the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth. They are part of the Seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. Since They have accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah, They become the Jewish Elect of Romans 11:7.

Since they believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah and they are part of the physical Seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob, God says Abraham's seed would be called in Isaac.

Therefore, The 11 Disciples who are of the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth who are a seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob who believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah are now called in Isaac according to God. These 11 Disciples become the Children of promise because Isaac was the child of promise.

Therefore, Looking at the Law God gave to Abraham in Genesis, In the New Testament, specifically Matthew 28:18-20, The 11 Disciples of Jesus Christ because they believe Jesus Christ and accept Him as Messiah become Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the Heaven.

Isaac's Seed Multiplied as the Stars of the Heaven keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ. See Acts Chapter 2 and Revelation 14:12.

So, The Answer to the question...Who is the 'Specific audience of Matthew 28:19-20 is...Answer #3 according to the Law of God. According to Hebrews 12:23, Answer #3 is not the ekklesia, but rather the panagureis.

Hebrews 12:23 in part (KJV)...To the General Assembly (panagureis) AND Church (ekklesia) of the First Born...

God Bless You!
 
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Let us take a look at Matthew 28:18-20 once again. We will look at all three verses here. The Bible says the following words...

Matthew 28:18-20

18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The Audience here is Jesus and His 11 Disciples. Yes. And, Jesus gives to these 11 Disciples a very specific instruction. But, Who is the specific audience here?

What I label as "Normal" Dispensationalism teaches that these 11 Disciples are the Christian Church. Well, Let us use the Law of God and find out specifically who these 11 men are as well as Jesus Christ.

Let us begin with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of David. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus Christ being the son of David and the Son of God clearly shows what is known as the hypostatic union. Jesus being both God and Man.

In other words, The God Man. And, We can clearly see the Lineage of Christ in Matthew Chapter 1 which goes all the way back to none other than Abraham. Jesus Christ is of the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth beginning with Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

So, To understand who Jesus really is, We must look at the Law God gave to Abraham. Here is what God gave to Abraham...

1) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth. Genesis 13:16
2) Abraham's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven. Genesis 15:4-5
3) Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the heaven. Genesis 26:4
4) Jacob's Seed multiplied as the dust of the earth. Genesis 28:14

This is the Law God gave to Abraham. In Galatians 3:16, We find that Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham. In other words, Jesus Christ is a physical seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

God in His infinite wisdom declares that Abraham's seed would be called in Isaac 3x in Scripture. Genesis 21:12, Romans 9:7 and Hebrews 11:18. Therefore, based on the Law of God, Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham called in Isaac. And, Jesus Christ was and is the promised Messiah.

Now, Let us look at the 11 Disciples. Who are these 11 men specifically? Well, These 11 men are also the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth. They are part of the Seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. Since They have accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah, They become the Jewish Elect of Romans 11:7.

Since they believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah and they are part of the physical Seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob, God says Abraham's seed would be called in Isaac.

Therefore, The 11 Disciples who are of the Seed of Jacob multiplied as the dust of the earth who are a seed of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob who believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah are now called in Isaac according to God. These 11 Disciples become the Children of promise because Isaac was the child of promise.

Therefore, Looking at the Law God gave to Abraham in Genesis, In the New Testament, specifically Matthew 28:18-20, The 11 Disciples of Jesus Christ because they believe Jesus Christ and accept Him as Messiah become Isaac's Seed multiplied as the stars of the Heaven.

Isaac's Seed Multiplied as the Stars of the Heaven keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ. See Acts Chapter 2 and Revelation 14:12.

So, The Answer to the question...Who is the 'Specific audience of Matthew 28:19-20 is...Answer #3 according to the Law of God. According to Hebrews 12:23, Answer #3 is not the ekklesia, but rather the panagureis.

Hebrews 12:23 in part (KJV)...To the General Assembly (panagureis) AND Church (ekklesia) of the First Born...

God Bless You!
MightyAngel1...there is a much easier way to say this...without all the biblical algebra, unless you just don't want anyone to get what you are trying to say...in that case...go for it.
 

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