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The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

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Who are.. or what are, these horsemen? Again the old testament shows us who they are. But not what they are meant to do. Well some i quess.. but not all is understood about them.. at least not in the book of revelation.

Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
Rev 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.



Zec 6:1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
Zec 6:2 In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
Zec 6:3 And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.

Zec 6:4 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What [are] these, my lord?
Zec 6:5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
Zec 6:6 The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.
Zec 6:7 And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.
Zec 6:8 Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.

So as we see these horses are in the Old Testament, or at least they appear to be the same, except here they are called four chariots, but they have some discrepancies. So.. Zechariah says they are the four spirits of the heavens. Here they are doing something different, than what they will be doing in the Apocalypse. So it may be safe to say, that they will ride again before the end of days, with a different purpose...

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Fellowservant said:
Who are.. or what are, these horsemen? Again the old testament shows us who they are. But not what they are meant to do. Well some i quess.. but not all is understood about them.. at least not in the book of revelation.

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts (like a lion) saying, Come and see. (not to be disrespectful, but isn't this beast supposed to be before the throne crying holy, holy, holy...?)
Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

The white horse, the spirit of false Christianity. The mother of false Christianity - The RCC - claims a membership of over 1 billion people! Now that's a lot of conquering! The head of that great religious system wears a tiara consisting of three crowns...

Note: The color of the four horses being a very important clue as to their identity, we would be wise to note their color!

Rev 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast (like a calf) say, Come and see. (another beast playing hookey?)
Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

The Red horse, the spirit of Communism. Without controversy, communism has been the cause of many wars. Many of those wars involved communists fighting one another!

Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast (face as a man) say, Come and see. (yet another beast playing hookey?) And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

The black horse, the spirit of Capitalism. Note the reference to the prices of valuable commodies. Does it sound like a stock market report? The strength of capitalist coutries lies in the strength of the stock market. Zeccariah 6:6 tells us that the chariot of black horses went into the north country. If you take the time to look at a world map, you will see that all major capitalist countries are located in the northern hemisphere. Surely this is not a coincidence...

Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast (flying eagle) say, Come and see. (ALL the beasts playing hookey?)
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

The pale (grizzled and bay) horse, the spirit of death by sword, by poverty, by hunger and by the beasts of the earth. Zeccariah 6:6 tells us that this spirit went toward the south country. Is it a coincidence that death by such things are much more common in countries that are in southern hemisphere? I think not...
The clues that are given us in scripture concerning the four spirits are sufficient for those for whom they were intended. They were not understood in times past because those in times pasts had no need to know. We who are living in the last of the last days need to know. It is imperative that we understand that the four spirits represent the forces of Catholicism, Communism, Capitalism, and Death (by poverty, etc.) that are molding and shaping the world political scene in preparation for global government...

Peace to all!
 
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pathfinder said:
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The clues that are given us in scripture concerning the four spirits are sufficient for those for whom they were intended. They were not understood in times past because those in times pasts had no need to know. We who are living in the last of the last days need to know. It is imperative that we understand that the four spirits represent the forces of Catholicism, Communism, Capitalism, and Death (by poverty, etc.) that are molding and shaping the world political scene in preparation for global government...
Peace to all!
You may be right...as i said somewhere else, i try not to say what these are doing, till the time comes, unless i have scripture to interpret what their doing, or who their causing to do Gods will. Most endtime prophecy is just guessing, till the prophecy comes to pass. You can give an opinion on what you think this is, or what that is, but thats it.. an opinion. Unless you have a complete verse of scripture on what is being done, or happening, word for word...its just a quessing game till these prophecies come about. Paul took a lot of time... trying to show people more knowledgeable than us in the scriptures, about the birth and crucifiction of Christ. This would have been almost impossible to understand fully, untill Christ fulfilled those prophecies.

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(not to be disrespectful, but isn't this beast supposed to be before the throne crying holy, holy, holy...?)

Also not to be disrespectful brother, these beasts are cherubims, not robot's...the Four Beast are also mentioned in the old testament. I dont debate this stuff... because there is to many interpretations. And this forum is not a debate forum. Just thought id post some interesting stuff. I can try to answer questions... but thats it.

Eze 10:20 This [is] the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they [were] the cherubims.
Eze 10:21 Every one had four faces apiece, and every one four wings; and the likeness of the hands of a man [was] under their wings.


If i had four faces.. i could say Holy Holy Holy with one face, and do some talking with the other's dont you think?


God bless brother
 
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lol...thanks for the good laugh, brother!

Fellowservant said:
If i had four faces.. i could say Holy Holy Holy with one face, and do some talking with the other's dont you think?
God bless brother
 
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In order to rightly understand the prophecies of Zeccariah 6:1-8 and Revelation 6:1-8, we must keep in mind the clues that are given in those scriptures as we look at the indicated hemisphere of influence of each of the four spirits. If we do not look at the indicated hemispheres, we could search the scriptures until we are claimed by death, and yet never even begin to understand what we need to understand about these prophecies...

Zec 6:6 The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.
6:7 And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.
6:8 Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.

Again, don't try to find in scripture what God is indicating we must find in understanding the political and spiritual climate of the indicated hemipheres. It is no coincidence that the colors of the horses are the same colors used by even secular society to represent religion, communism, capitalism and death...

As you said, Fellowservant, interesting stuff! :shade:

Peace to all!
 
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I'm asking the following not because I think I already know the answer, but rather, because I would like to know the answer!

Concerning Revelation 6:1-8, does anybody know why:

- the beast as a lion (logically) is connected with the rider on the white horse?

- the beast like a calf (second beast) is connected with the rider on the red horse?

- the beast with a face as a man (third beast) is connected with the rider on the black horse?

- the beast like a flying eagle (fourth beast) is connected with the rider on the pale horse?

FTR, whereas God seen fit to have John include that info, it wouldn't be a good thing to say that it is of no importance... :lightning :lightning :lightning



Peace to all!
 
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Hi Folks,

It Would seem to me that the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are alive and well and reeking Havoc in Africa.

Tonyb
 
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