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Sex out side of marriage

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Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, [COLOR=#ff0000]as for murderers[/COLOR], [COLOR=#ff0000]the sexually immoral[/COLOR], sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Seems God sees the sexually immoral person, (the person who has sex outside of marriage) in the same category as a murderer. Thank God if we repent and stop sinning against God he will forgive us but we must take action now before its to late.
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It appears the most adulteress people in the world are those who have never touched a woman, or a man, but are adulterers.

Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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Sexual fantasies, although dangerous to self, and definitely sinful, are not as dangerous as physical fulfilling of them. The physical entertainment results in hurting not only yourself, but your partners, and possible infections that accompany that lifestyle. And all sin, hurts God.
True, but I have a somewhat different POV of the intent of that verse. The first two groups are those who do absolutely nothing to further the Kingdom by achieving nothing overall. The third group may be about hypocrisy or fall into the group of being neither hot or cold. They may not directly oppose the Church, but they do nothing to propagate its growth despite being members of a congregation. As such, they become murderers in that they rescue no one from perishing spiritually and just let them die. Can you blame God for doing so?
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Sin does not become sin when we do it, the doing part is simply the manifestation of sin that was already present in man! God "found" sin in Lucifer before he ever attempted to raise his throne above the stars of God.

James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
James 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

The "finishing of sin" is in doing it, but it is not it's beginning. Man sin's before he goes through the actions of sinning!
I think most people believe if they could just stop sinning, then they will be OK, when in reality it is in the thinking of sin that is the sin, which later brings forth it's actions.

Pro 24:9 The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men.
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noun: fornication; plural noun: fornications
sexual intercourse between people not married to each other.

noun: adultery; plural noun: adulteries
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.

The difference between fornication and adultery is... in one case, neither is married.
In the other case, one or both are married, but not to each other,

Fornication is a word rarely used anymore.

1 Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1 Cor 6:10; nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 15:29; that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell."

Heb 13:4; Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Matt 5:27; [COLOR=red] "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; [/COLOR] ( Exod 20:14; )
Matt 5:28; [COLOR=red] but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. [/COLOR]
Matt 5:29; [COLOR=red] "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. [/COLOR]
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Exodus 22:16 says; if a man has sexual relations with a woman who is not engaged or married, then he shall pay the bridal price and she shall be his wife.
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And that passage continues to say that if the father of the bride refuses to give her to him , he must still pay the bride-price for virgins. Which means that the woman who has been raped is not obligated to live with the rapist. If she is still living at home, her father can refuse to let her be with the guy who raped her. But he Still has to provide for her financially.

That was meant to make a potential rapist think twice Before trying to seduce the woman.

On the Other hand, if a woman presents herself in a fashion that would be suggestive to a man and the man 'takes' her. Then she is pretty much his property. But I'm thinking that they might both be open to being stoned.

It IS Old Testament.

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