The thing I have noticed about seeds is... they take time to grow. In fact, a seed rarely remains "a seed". Generally they eventually turn into a tree of a fruit, or something else. ================================================================================== I've noticed it's same with us. I don't see any verses in the Bible that say we have to be fully perfect in "one second". I'm not denying this can happen. But I will say it rarely does happen. There are dozens of verses about trees growing and "eventually" bearing fruit, Christians maturing from infants, to children, to young men, to fathers. There are multiple verses about Christians who sin. If "your brother" sins against you. If anyone does sin.. we have a advocate... (unbelievers don't have that advocate). If we confess our sins... etc.... ================================================================================== Grace doesn't end when you become a Christian... that's when it begins.