Rightly Divideing The Word

[yort]

Giving Unreservedly to others-or- Requiring Work or Responsibility of Others.

As we have seen, a persons responsibility during the readiness period differs greatly from the Christian responsibility in today's Church Age. For example, the Lord Jesus Christ preached readiness doctrine, making it clear that if a person asks for something or wants to borrow something, you are to give to him. One has no right to turn him away.
(KJB) Matthew 5:42
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

One can only imagine the abuse the Christian would endure if required to abide by this directive today. Can you imagine giving to any & every one who ask? People today would take advantage of us until we had nothing left to give. But when the Lord Jesus Christ rules on His throne during the future Millennial Kingdom, He will insure that no one gets away with taking advantage of anyone else.

If applying Matthew 5:42 dogmatically to hour Christian walk does not seem a problem for you, then you have not thoroughly considered its ramifications. For instance, if someone wanted to borrow your car or maybe your house for the weekend, would you turn him away? What would be your justification? It should be because you understand your Bible rightly divided ,& realize that giving to anyone who asks is a doctrine that will apply to those living during the Millennium & not to us in this Church Age.

God gives us different standards to follow today. He let's us know, through Paul we are under no obligation to give because a person ask. For example, He goes so far as to say that those who are unwilling to work should not eat.
"Church" (KJV)2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

The only way to know that our actions are right is by considering the commands given to us through our spokesman, the Apostle Paul (Romans 11:13). If a person ask to borrow something, he can be asked to work for it. We are under no obligation to give anything to anyone just because he asks (Matthew 5:42). Otherwise, we would be obligated to give every panhandler on the side of the road whatever handout he requests, whether it is food, money or personal belongings.
I would like emphasize caution. Our review of this subject should not be used as a justification to claim no responsibility to act in a Christian manner. However, if a person will not work, then we are not doing them wrong by not taking care of them in their sin. If they cannot work, we haVe a responsibility to help them. The devil is the "god of this world" right now ( 2 Corinfhians 4:4); therefore, we are commanded to hold people accountable for their actions ( Galatians 1:4).

Asking an able-bodied person to work is scriptural.

 

[just-a-servant]

Giving Unreservedly to others-or- Requiring Work or Responsibility of Others.

As we have seen, a persons responsibility during the readiness period differs greatly from the Christian responsibility in today's Church Age. For example, the Lord Jesus Christ preached readiness doctrine, making it clear that if a person asks for something or wants to borrow something, you are to give to him. One has no right to turn him away.
(KJB) Matthew 5:42
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

One can only imagine the abuse the Christian would endure if required to abide by this directive today. Can you imagine giving to any & every one who ask? People today would take advantage of us until we had nothing left to give. But when the Lord Jesus Christ rules on His throne during the future Millennial Kingdom, He will insure that no one gets away with taking advantage of anyone else.

If applying Matthew 5:42 dogmatically to hour Christian walk does not seem a problem for you, then you have not thoroughly considered its ramifications. For instance, if someone wanted to borrow your car or maybe your house for the weekend, would you turn him away? What would be your justification? It should be because you understand your Bible rightly divided ,& realize that giving to anyone who asks is a doctrine that will apply to those living during the Millennium & not to us in this Church Age.

God gives us different standards to follow today. He let's us know, through Paul we are under no obligation to give because a person ask. For example, He goes so far as to say that those who are unwilling to work should not eat.
"Church" (KJV)2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

The only way to know that our actions are right is by considering the commands given to us through our spokesman, the Apostle Paul (Romans 11:13). If a person ask to borrow something, he can be asked to work for it. We are under no obligation to give anything to anyone just because he asks (Matthew 5:42). Otherwise, we would be obligated to give every panhandler on the side of the road whatever handout he requests, whether it is food, money or personal belongings.
I would like emphasize caution. Our review of this subject should not be used as a justification to claim no responsibility to act in a Christian manner. However, if a person will not work, then we are not doing them wrong by not taking care of them in their sin. If they cannot work, we haVe a responsibility to help them. The devil is the "god of this world" right now ( 2 Corinfhians 4:4); therefore, we are commanded to hold people accountable for their actions ( Galatians 1:4).

Asking an able-bodied person to work is scriptural.

Brother Yort,

Quoting your remarks above: If applying Matthew 5:42 dogmatically to (h)our Christian walk does not seem a problem for you, then you have not thoroughly considered its ramifications.

Respectfully, I submit it is you who have not considered its ramifications. God gives freely to all who ask. According to your rightly divided scripture, in order for us to have His gift (Grace), we should have to work for it not merely ask for it.

Paul reminds us in Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace."

If indeed we have to work for it, then it is no longer a gift. We are akin to every panhandler along the side of the road. We don't deserve a thing, yet he gives to us freely and abundantly just because we ask.

If what you say were in any manner true, then read the next scripture and be remorseful because you too, shall have your reward.
Matt 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

IMHO,
just-a-servant

 

[yort]

ok

Ok since you see it in that light I've got a couple car payments due can you send the check to; I kid. I wasn't in any means making the statement that we "Church Age saints", have to work for grace. But people have had to and people will have to. Like I said Rightly Dividing important you think?

 

[just-a-servant]

Ok since you see it in that light I've got a couple car payments due can you send the check to; I kid. I wasn't in any means making the statement that we "Church Age saints", have to work for grace. But people have had to and people will have to. Like I said Rightly Dividing important you think?

I don't disagree with the reality of "no work-no eat." It irritates me with the lack of personal responsibility some people show, but it irritates me even more when I pass judgement on those same people. That is my sin, not theirs.

My point with the response was: you will be judged with the same measure you use. If giving a gift to a freeloader is a gift, then there is no expectation of anything in return. If there is an expectation of return, then it's not a gift. Jesus's gift to us was His life (His love). He expected nothing in return.

The falicy of your rightly divided teaching is that there is an expectation of return by us for any good or decent act we may perform. If you want a return, then it is not freely given. If you give a gift, expecting no return, then it is a righteous act and you will be judged accordingly. If you give it as a righteous act, but expect a return, or hold it up for the world to see for your own edification, then it is hypocrisy and it too will be judged accordingly.

We must take the plank out of our own eye before we can remove the speck from another's. If you want to be a teacher, as it appears you want to be, then you must do more than rightly divide the scripture, you must rightly divide the teaching by understanding the whole of the scripture, not just one portion or verse.

IMHO,
just-a-servant

 

[ushalk]

the problem with this is that to many go to a semanary school and learn that the bible is already rightly divided by chapter and verses. when the fact is that it is not rightly divided. rightly dividing the truth only comes from the revelation of the holy spirit.

 

[yort]

The point I was trying to convey was that just because one ask of you based on scripture (Matthew 5:42),doesn't hold you responsible to respond. But rather you can expect one to work for that which he wants without guilt and at the same time I can see where one can give with no outward reward.

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

the problem with this is that to many go to a seminary school and learn that the bible is already rightly divided by chapter and verses. when the fact is that it is not rightly divided. rightly dividing the truth only comes from the revelation of the holy spirit.

Unfortunately that is true,to make matters worse those with the Holy Spirit sense something is wrong and become despondent and give up on ministry and sometimes even give up on God altogether.

As for "no work-no eat" that's fine when everyone can earn a living wage and prosper.But if you are living high and see your neighbor suffering then you should examine your "way" often.The working poor of 5 years ago are now the new jobless/homeless.

I think scripture is promoting a liberal attitude when believing for good in people(yes you will get ripped off).It would look different in communist Cuba than it would in Capitalist America.