Pro Choice - rant ( I support choice )

[Jesus_is_LORD]

<rant>
So obviously as Christians we already know that abortion is wrong.

Yes, there are a few in need of God's Grace and wisdom who are deceived and support
abortion, but I would say that the majority of Christians who are pursuing a relationship
with Jesus and consider themselves His disciple, have no major debate that abortion is wrong.

Now, the opposition labels their position as pro-choice.

The crazy part is when you think about it they are not really pro-choice, because
choices have consequences.

They want to make the choice to have sex but don't want to deal with the consequences
of the pregnancy which follows.

I support choice if people are willing to own their consequences.

If YOU made the "choice" to have sex, than who should deal with the consequences of
your choices which follows? YOU should and not the baby.

The secular world says that they are for choice, but what they are really for is anti-consequences.
They want to make choices but not own the consequences.

Life doesn't work that way. You can't separate consequences from your choices.

Ever been to court before? It is all about giving people consequences for their choices.
Ever heard of laws. It is all about reminding people your actions have consequences.

If you are a business person and you make a bad business deal, who deals with the consequences of your choice?
If you are a student and you choose the wrong answer on a test, who deals with the consequences of your choice?
If you drive a car and you a drunk and you hit and injury someone, who deals with the consequences of your choice?

I support choice, if people are willing to own the consequences for their actions.
The world isn't pro-choice, they are anti-responsibility and anti-consequences.
They want to make whatever choices without being responsible for the consequences.
Imagine the generation that creates, a generation of people who have no sense of accountability,
they feel entitled to everything and feel no sense of responsibility for their choices and they think
everyone else should pay when their choices inconveniences them.

Sad.

</rant>

 

[KingJ]

If a baby has a beating heart, it is murder.

If I was in politics I would change their title to ''pro-murder''.

 

[MedicBravo]

If a baby has a beating heart, it is murder.

If I was in politics I would change their title to ''pro-murder''.

Human life begins at conception. A beating heart is not evidence of personhood. If it were then someone who's heart stopped temporarily should not be resuscitated. I'll do you one better. Someone with a mechanical heart isn't human either.
We can't change how we procreate. We can't change how we look from conception until birth. Too many people have believe the Lie. He/she may be so early in development it doesn't look human but that never equates to "not human or alive". Basic human biological facts.
The reason abortion is allowed later on b/c embryo viability at such an early time is nil. 6 week is generally the average time when a baby is considered a "person".

 

[MedicBravo]

<rant>
So obviously as Christians we already know that abortion is wrong.

Yes, there are a few in need of God's Grace and wisdom who are deceived and support
abortion, but I would say that the majority of Christians who are pursuing a relationship
with Jesus and consider themselves His disciple, have no major debate that abortion is wrong.

Now, the opposition labels their position as pro-choice.

The crazy part is when you think about it they are not really pro-choice, because
choices have consequences.

They want to make the choice to have sex but don't want to deal with the consequences
of the pregnancy which follows.

I support choice if people are willing to own their consequences.

If YOU made the "choice" to have sex, than who should deal with the consequences of
your choices which follows? YOU should and not the baby.

The secular world says that they are for choice, but what they are really for is anti-consequences.
They want to make choices but not own the consequences.

Life doesn't work that way. You can't separate consequences from your choices.

Ever been to court before? It is all about giving people consequences for their choices.
Ever heard of laws. It is all about reminding people your actions have consequences.

If you are a business person and you make a bad business deal, who deals with the consequences of your choice?
If you are a student and you choose the wrong answer on a test, who deals with the consequences of your choice?
If you drive a car and you a drunk and you hit and injury someone, who deals with the consequences of your choice?

I support choice, if people are willing to own the consequences for their actions.
The world isn't pro-choice, they are anti-responsibility and anti-consequences.
They want to make whatever choices without being responsible for the consequences.
Imagine the generation that creates, a generation of people who have no sense of accountability,
they feel entitled to everything and feel no sense of responsibility for their choices and they think
everyone else should pay when their choices inconveniences them.

Sad.

</rant>

You can't be a Christian and be pro-choice. It's hypocritical to "Do not murder."
Regardless of stage, from conception to birth that is a separate human with it's own DNA. Once conceived, it's too late.
If more women kept their legs shut and had better standards and views of self there wouldn't be this problem at this level.
If more men stopped going after more women for selfish "needs" and had better standards and views of self there wouldn't be this problem at this level.
Kill a bald eagle or an egg and you the consequences are severe yet "people" have no problem murdering unborn babies.

 

[Waggles]

Prior to the rise and influence of the gospel of salvation pretty well all other religions required human sacrifices and often their children.
Child sacrifice was prevalent throughout pre-Christian Europe in the many rites of temple worship to various gods.

Lev 18:21 You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.

Child sacrifices was eventually done away with through the salvation message of the gospel and the sanctity of life.
Sacrificing to appease false gods was no longer required.
But now we have the rise and rise of many abominations again (the 1960s onwards I would opine) and killing babies or not killing babies is a major religious conflict of ethics and choices.
Have the gods returned to a fallen Christian West ?? Does Molech again rule and have dominion in where the gospel and Christian doctrines gave rise to Christendom ??
The West - and I would argue the lost ten tribes of Israel - have renounced the GOD of their salvation and turned away to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons through atheism and humanism.
For the politically correct, but morally wrong, mindset is new age religion that we ourselves have become as gods and can choose for ourselves what is good and evil.
So killing a baby is good, but driving a petrol engine vehicle is evil.

"What experience and history teaches us is that people and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it."
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Oh that our Western post-Christian world would learn of 70AD

 

[Waggles]

The Return Of The Gods
by Jonathan Cahn
The Return of the Gods, Cahn takes the reader on a journey from an ancient parable, the ancient inscriptions in Sumer, Assyria, and Babylonia that become the puzzle pieces behind what is taking place in our world to this day,
specifically in America.
**The mystery involves the gods.**Who are they? What are they?
And is it possible that these beings, whose origins are from ancient times, are the unseen catalysts of modern culture?
Is it possible that these gods lie behind the most pivotal events, forces, and movements taking place in our nation and around the world at this very moment?
Are the gods at this very moment transforming our culture, our children, our lives, and America itself?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Prior to the rise and influence of the gospel of salvation pretty well all other religions required human sacrifices and often their children.
Child sacrifice was prevalent throughout pre-Christian Europe in the many rites of temple worship to various gods.

Lev 18:21 You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.

Child sacrifices was eventually done away with through the salvation message of the gospel and the sanctity of life.
Sacrificing to appease false gods was no longer required.
But now we have the rise and rise of many abominations again (the 1960s onwards I would opine) and killing babies or not killing babies is a major religious conflict of ethics and choices.
Have the gods returned to a fallen Christian West ?? Does Molech again rule and have dominion in where the gospel and Christian doctrines gave rise to Christendom ??
The West - and I would argue the lost ten tribes of Israel - have renounced the GOD of their salvation and turned away to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons through atheism and humanism.
For the politically correct, but morally wrong, mindset is new age religion that we ourselves have become as gods and can choose for ourselves what is good and evil.
So killing a baby is good, but driving a petrol engine vehicle is evil.

"What experience and history teaches us is that people and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it."
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Oh that our Western post-Christian world would learn of 70AD

Amen, thanks for sharing