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Jari, no we aren't good. There is no good, no not one. If we say we have no sin we are lying and we make him a liar. The next verse says if we are faithful and confess our sins, he will forgive us. If Jari confesses his sin, he will forgive Jari.
Have you spent any time in prayer about this problem? Reading the Word about it? Asking God to reveal the things in your life that you might need to change?
I doubt you have any 'bad spirits' in you. In fact if you are born again, then you have the Holy Spirit in you and evil spirits can not abide to be in his presence. But still, we are influenced by things and tempted and think evil thoughts from time to time.
Do you have an "action plan" to keep from doing these things? I don't just mean reading the Bible and praying, those are good yes, but anything practical? I won't go to the casino anymore? I wont go to the liquor store anymore? I won't go to those kind of websites anymore? Do you have accountability to anyone? We can't do it alone,we were never meant to.
Have you spent any time in prayer about this problem? Reading the Word about it? Asking God to reveal the things in your life that you might need to change?
I doubt you have any 'bad spirits' in you. In fact if you are born again, then you have the Holy Spirit in you and evil spirits can not abide to be in his presence. But still, we are influenced by things and tempted and think evil thoughts from time to time.
Do you have an "action plan" to keep from doing these things? I don't just mean reading the Bible and praying, those are good yes, but anything practical? I won't go to the casino anymore? I wont go to the liquor store anymore? I won't go to those kind of websites anymore? Do you have accountability to anyone? We can't do it alone,we were never meant to.
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Hello jari,
This could also be a result of doing everything right.We have entered into the way.Jesus said he is the way.
Philippians 3:10. That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
This does not sound like a pleasant process.The above verse tells me that we will made conformable to his death.That would include a Garden of Gethsemane experience,a trial and dragging that cross to Golgotha.It would also include being pierced and finally death on the cross.
John 9:4. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.(being from Finland you know this)
This is a prophecy but I believe it also shows a pattern and a cycle.
The temporary relief we experience is time to worship and pray and defeat darkness by generating light through faith.Darkness fights back though.I know after some of my victories I have to escape and hide like Elijah.
1 Kings 19:2. Then Jezebel sent a messenger unto Elijah, saying, So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I make not thy life as the life of one of them by to morrow about this time.
His work was to fulfill scripture and so is ours.Scripture has many levels and patterns and cycles are in many of them.We have in our sufferings been many times fulfilling the patterns unknowingly.
Matthew 10:38. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 16:24. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
I am praying for you that you may know him and the power of his resurrection.I also ask for oil for your lamp.I ask in Jesus name.
I would like someone like you who understands the fellowship of his suffering to pray for me also.My circumstances are different but the patterns are the same.
2 Corinthians 1:5. For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
Romans 8:18. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
I invite anyone who feels they are in the midst of fulfilling these patterns to pray for both of us and please post if you would like to be included.
This could also be a result of doing everything right.We have entered into the way.Jesus said he is the way.
Philippians 3:10. That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
This does not sound like a pleasant process.The above verse tells me that we will made conformable to his death.That would include a Garden of Gethsemane experience,a trial and dragging that cross to Golgotha.It would also include being pierced and finally death on the cross.
John 9:4. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.(being from Finland you know this)
This is a prophecy but I believe it also shows a pattern and a cycle.
The temporary relief we experience is time to worship and pray and defeat darkness by generating light through faith.Darkness fights back though.I know after some of my victories I have to escape and hide like Elijah.
1 Kings 19:2. Then Jezebel sent a messenger unto Elijah, saying, So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I make not thy life as the life of one of them by to morrow about this time.
His work was to fulfill scripture and so is ours.Scripture has many levels and patterns and cycles are in many of them.We have in our sufferings been many times fulfilling the patterns unknowingly.
Matthew 10:38. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 16:24. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
I am praying for you that you may know him and the power of his resurrection.I also ask for oil for your lamp.I ask in Jesus name.
I would like someone like you who understands the fellowship of his suffering to pray for me also.My circumstances are different but the patterns are the same.
2 Corinthians 1:5. For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
Romans 8:18. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
I invite anyone who feels they are in the midst of fulfilling these patterns to pray for both of us and please post if you would like to be included.
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Brother Jari,since I do not know excatly what you are talking about,after careful prayer,what I am about to say to you,is in faith, and not in any knowledge I have. Did you ever notice a policeman for example? No one questions there authority,do you know why that is?
Because they themselves know who they are,and what they are intitled under the office they hold. As a child of God,we know what we have in Christ,but this does little good unless we take authority in Christ we have.This we can only do by his very Word.A perfect example of this ,is our Jesus himself.lets look for a few moments in Matt the 4th chapter.
Jesus is first led into the wilderness, he knew why,he also knew who he was, and is as well.He fasted 40 days, he did this not for himself,but rather I believe for us! After the fasting, only then!! Did the devil tempt him,why not during? Because to much power is in fasting(Isaiah 58:6-12) read this carefully brother. I am not telling you to fast, for 40 days!!
But 3 days will do you well!! If God tells you to fast more or less,cool.Whatever faith you use during this fast is always hornored!!( hebrews 11:6)!! Now lets get back to matt 4. As the tempter,the devil came, was the devil sure Jesus is the Son of God??verse 3 IF YOU! I believe brother Jari like Jesus, the devil tests our very armor first!!(Eph 6:12-19) notice something here Jari,verse 18-19 With all prayer,which Jesus was doing during his fast, and petition pray at all times in the Spirit,and with this in view( not just to yourself, but to your enemies as well!!) be on the alert with all perserverance and petition for all the saints,( the same saints Jesus saw on the cross!! Remember?? hebrews 12:2? who for the JOY set before him endurded the cross,we know what that joy was brother,Jesus saw you and I and so many others coming to him!!
Jesus saw the same by fasting as well for us!! For our example! So that we what?? amen FOLLOW after HIM! another words we imitate him,that is what he wants us to do! hence receiving the same results!! Amen
Then verse 19 of eph 6 and pray on my behalf that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth to make known with what?? AMEN BOLDNESS the mystery of the Gospel!! Jesus did this when Jesus spoke to the enemy in verse 4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but every word that proceeds OUT OF THE what?? YEP!!! MOUTH OF GOD!! remember Deaut 8:3!!!
Jesus was right here telling the devil who he is!! GOD!!! Now the devil now knows for sure!! He was uncertain until this to me!! So he leaves Jesus for a time now! Even as the enemy can leave us alone for a time,but if we do not tell him with authority and through the very Word of God who we are in him?? He will just laugh at us!
Again the devil being so deciving!! says to Jesus yet again IF YOU are the Son of God throw YOURSELF DOWN for it is written!! The devil knows who he is dealing with now!! The devil decides to decieve and quote only a portion of the Word to Jesus! ( Psalm 91:11-12 for full version!!) Jesus of course always through the Word tells the enemy you shall not put the LORD YOUR!!!!! GOD means he is above who he is talking to!!
To the test!( Deaut 6:16!!!) always using the Word of the Old!! for Jesus is also telling us he is the GREAT I AM AS WELL!! For only God himself could recall these scriptures, and this super knowledge!! amen! Finally almost be so fed up and angry the devil says one last thing,and this time the devil speaks in truth!! Because of what Adam and Eve did, they gave the devil the right to say this to Jesus himself!( 2 cor 4:4)the devil wants Jesus to make an Idol ( 1 Cor 10:19-20) He wanted Jesus to do this because the devil had no idea how the Lord was going to free us!! The devil knew the Jews were weak in there faith, and made many different idols during there time,so he was hoping Jesus LOL would do the same.
Now Jesus had had enough of this stupidity!! But again notice jari, he could have just said, look you know I am that I am ,he could of done this long ago!! But for our sake he did not! WHAT LOVE!! AMEN! No Jesus fires him up with both!!( deaut 6:13and 10:20!!) That was it for the devil!!Badly wounded from all the Power and Glory of not only our Jesus!! BUT!! his WORD!!
That same Word brother we are to ALWAYS USE!! amen! Before we can ever take any authority my brother,we must first learn who we are,we know we have learned who we are by what we say!! Remember I talked to you about our good father Abraham?( james 2:21-26)? Abraham was not called the Friend of God because he believed!! He was called the friend to God because he acted on what he believed!! Faith without works is dead.
Our faith is not in ourselves my brother,because our faith is in the very God who saved and delieved us!! Praise HIS Wonderful name forever!! may this build you up,and may you see, who you are in Christ!! and what is yours to keep!! Do not allow any thief( john 10:10) to steal what is yours!! amen! Blessing Bro!
Because they themselves know who they are,and what they are intitled under the office they hold. As a child of God,we know what we have in Christ,but this does little good unless we take authority in Christ we have.This we can only do by his very Word.A perfect example of this ,is our Jesus himself.lets look for a few moments in Matt the 4th chapter.
Jesus is first led into the wilderness, he knew why,he also knew who he was, and is as well.He fasted 40 days, he did this not for himself,but rather I believe for us! After the fasting, only then!! Did the devil tempt him,why not during? Because to much power is in fasting(Isaiah 58:6-12) read this carefully brother. I am not telling you to fast, for 40 days!!
But 3 days will do you well!! If God tells you to fast more or less,cool.Whatever faith you use during this fast is always hornored!!( hebrews 11:6)!! Now lets get back to matt 4. As the tempter,the devil came, was the devil sure Jesus is the Son of God??verse 3 IF YOU! I believe brother Jari like Jesus, the devil tests our very armor first!!(Eph 6:12-19) notice something here Jari,verse 18-19 With all prayer,which Jesus was doing during his fast, and petition pray at all times in the Spirit,and with this in view( not just to yourself, but to your enemies as well!!) be on the alert with all perserverance and petition for all the saints,( the same saints Jesus saw on the cross!! Remember?? hebrews 12:2? who for the JOY set before him endurded the cross,we know what that joy was brother,Jesus saw you and I and so many others coming to him!!
Jesus saw the same by fasting as well for us!! For our example! So that we what?? amen FOLLOW after HIM! another words we imitate him,that is what he wants us to do! hence receiving the same results!! Amen
Then verse 19 of eph 6 and pray on my behalf that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth to make known with what?? AMEN BOLDNESS the mystery of the Gospel!! Jesus did this when Jesus spoke to the enemy in verse 4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but every word that proceeds OUT OF THE what?? YEP!!! MOUTH OF GOD!! remember Deaut 8:3!!!
Jesus was right here telling the devil who he is!! GOD!!! Now the devil now knows for sure!! He was uncertain until this to me!! So he leaves Jesus for a time now! Even as the enemy can leave us alone for a time,but if we do not tell him with authority and through the very Word of God who we are in him?? He will just laugh at us!
Again the devil being so deciving!! says to Jesus yet again IF YOU are the Son of God throw YOURSELF DOWN for it is written!! The devil knows who he is dealing with now!! The devil decides to decieve and quote only a portion of the Word to Jesus! ( Psalm 91:11-12 for full version!!) Jesus of course always through the Word tells the enemy you shall not put the LORD YOUR!!!!! GOD means he is above who he is talking to!!
To the test!( Deaut 6:16!!!) always using the Word of the Old!! for Jesus is also telling us he is the GREAT I AM AS WELL!! For only God himself could recall these scriptures, and this super knowledge!! amen! Finally almost be so fed up and angry the devil says one last thing,and this time the devil speaks in truth!! Because of what Adam and Eve did, they gave the devil the right to say this to Jesus himself!( 2 cor 4:4)the devil wants Jesus to make an Idol ( 1 Cor 10:19-20) He wanted Jesus to do this because the devil had no idea how the Lord was going to free us!! The devil knew the Jews were weak in there faith, and made many different idols during there time,so he was hoping Jesus LOL would do the same.
Now Jesus had had enough of this stupidity!! But again notice jari, he could have just said, look you know I am that I am ,he could of done this long ago!! But for our sake he did not! WHAT LOVE!! AMEN! No Jesus fires him up with both!!( deaut 6:13and 10:20!!) That was it for the devil!!Badly wounded from all the Power and Glory of not only our Jesus!! BUT!! his WORD!!
That same Word brother we are to ALWAYS USE!! amen! Before we can ever take any authority my brother,we must first learn who we are,we know we have learned who we are by what we say!! Remember I talked to you about our good father Abraham?( james 2:21-26)? Abraham was not called the Friend of God because he believed!! He was called the friend to God because he acted on what he believed!! Faith without works is dead.
Our faith is not in ourselves my brother,because our faith is in the very God who saved and delieved us!! Praise HIS Wonderful name forever!! may this build you up,and may you see, who you are in Christ!! and what is yours to keep!! Do not allow any thief( john 10:10) to steal what is yours!! amen! Blessing Bro!
jari
Hi Jari, i lovetalking to you in the Chat, altough i havent been in for a long time. having problems of my own, nothing God cant take care of. He loves and us much.
just remember he is so powerful, he made the world and the stars. i have a book for you and if u give meyour address i will send it to you ,my precious friend.
a little tip jari - every morning and during the day pray "jesus cover me with your blood" Protect my goings in and my goings out. Jesus is king over all.
amen. i love you jari and so does Jesus. xxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Jari, i lovetalking to you in the Chat, altough i havent been in for a long time. having problems of my own, nothing God cant take care of. He loves and us much.
just remember he is so powerful, he made the world and the stars. i have a book for you and if u give meyour address i will send it to you ,my precious friend.
a little tip jari - every morning and during the day pray "jesus cover me with your blood" Protect my goings in and my goings out. Jesus is king over all.
amen. i love you jari and so does Jesus. xxxxxxxxxxx
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Faith not like reality; Faith from Above
Hey Jari, I see you are hurting inside. I am familiar with that constant feeling of up and down. The constant fear when everything is so great thats it only a matter of time until things get bad again. And eventually you find yourself looking up from the mudpit so to speak. I know this is hard to accept when you stop and think about your life.
I would love to just pop out some words on my own right now....words of positivity, encouragement, and hope. Maybe it is just where I am at in my life right now, but I dont really have any. All i can think of right now is the knowledge that everytime one of these events in my life occurs that gets me down again I find myself thinking about God's word and all that He has done for me in the past to make me who I am today. And you know, that is more than sufficient for me.
When I look back on things I know that God has never let me down because just look at all the blessings in my life, the person He has made me. Jari look back at your life and think about those times God has lifted you up. We have to take our lives one day at a time. I am always reminded of something a fellow student told me one day that will probably never leave me.
"Always stick with what you know, not what you feel." Easier said than done sometimes but what do we know? By experience more than just knowing because its a religion that 'sort of works' for us like some might say. We have experienced the joy of God through being saved by Jesus Christ and we know Jesus died for our sins thus we have eternal salvation. Stick to what you know, never cease in prayer to the Father and hold that knowledge in your heart.
I would also ask everyone to please pray for me that I may always remember His word which is the guiding light of our lives, whether I feel up or down.
Hey Jari, I see you are hurting inside. I am familiar with that constant feeling of up and down. The constant fear when everything is so great thats it only a matter of time until things get bad again. And eventually you find yourself looking up from the mudpit so to speak. I know this is hard to accept when you stop and think about your life.
I would love to just pop out some words on my own right now....words of positivity, encouragement, and hope. Maybe it is just where I am at in my life right now, but I dont really have any. All i can think of right now is the knowledge that everytime one of these events in my life occurs that gets me down again I find myself thinking about God's word and all that He has done for me in the past to make me who I am today. And you know, that is more than sufficient for me.
When I look back on things I know that God has never let me down because just look at all the blessings in my life, the person He has made me. Jari look back at your life and think about those times God has lifted you up. We have to take our lives one day at a time. I am always reminded of something a fellow student told me one day that will probably never leave me.
"Always stick with what you know, not what you feel." Easier said than done sometimes but what do we know? By experience more than just knowing because its a religion that 'sort of works' for us like some might say. We have experienced the joy of God through being saved by Jesus Christ and we know Jesus died for our sins thus we have eternal salvation. Stick to what you know, never cease in prayer to the Father and hold that knowledge in your heart.
I would also ask everyone to please pray for me that I may always remember His word which is the guiding light of our lives, whether I feel up or down.
