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Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. Literally or spiritually understood?

Dave L

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Daniel said the Kingdom of God would appear during the times of the ancient Roman Empire. And Jesus confirmed this. He preached the Kingdom was at hand. It already had been suffering violence. And that he casting out demons was proof it arrived. But he threw a huge curveball to everyone by saying so.

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 3:2 (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12 (KJV 1900)

“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)

Everyone expected a literal physical kingdom similar to David’s that would rid the land of the Romans and do all the Old Testament prophets said it would do.

But here’s what happened. Jesus continued preaching the gospel of the Kingdom describing it as present, invisible, and also as spiritual. A kingdom only the born again could see. Later he said his kingdom is not of this world and comes not with observation. And that the kingdom is within you.

In contrast, the Pharisees taught a literal physical millennial kingdom based on a literal interpretation of Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. So naturally, they rejected Jesus’ gospel of the kingdom in favor of theirs. Also many followers looking for a physical millennial kingdom did too, even today. The disciples did not understand the nature of the kingdom still questioning its whereabouts leading up to Pentecost until Peter preached the same gospel of the kingdom Jesus preached.

And so, here’s where the split begins. Do we side with Jesus, Peter and Daniel, thinking the kingdom came, and it is spiritual? Or do we side with the Pharisees and other millennialists thinking Jesus, Peter and Daniel were wrong? Because the physical kingdom described by the prophets didn’t show when it was supposed to?

Since Jesus preached the gospel of the present spiritual kingdom, it means this. If Jesus and Daniel were right, all the Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies were symbols of the spiritual Kingdom, not to be taken literally. And the kingdom came on time during the ancient Roman Empire and we have been living in it ever since.

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)


So Jesus would rule from David’s Throne in heaven while David remains dead and buried. That is before the resurrection on the last day. That is now. While we wait for our resurrection, the resurrection of David and all believers on earth’s last day.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple if you look at it this way. God’s Temple made without hands. Only God can build Ezekiel’s Temple because of its incomplete measurements. You would need to add to God’s word in order to build it with human hands. Also, because it calls for a return to animal sacrifices, if taken literally, it would involve you in unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. An unforgivable return to animal sacrifices.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple, the Temple made without hands, along with the Church in whom God dwells.

Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” Luke 16:16 (KJV 1900)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

“When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:12 (KJV 1900)

“That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.” 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV 1900)

“And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Acts 19:8 (KJV 1900)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

https://www.talkjesus.com/posts/361415/edit
 
Daniel said the Kingdom of God would appear during the times of the ancient Roman Empire. And Jesus confirmed this. He preached the Kingdom was at hand. It already had been suffering violence. And that he casting out demons was proof it arrived. But he threw a huge curveball to everyone by saying so.

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 3:2 (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12 (KJV 1900)

“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)

Everyone expected a literal physical kingdom similar to David’s that would rid the land of the Romans and do all the Old Testament prophets said it would do.

But here’s what happened. Jesus continued preaching the gospel of the Kingdom describing it as present, invisible, and also as spiritual. A kingdom only the born again could see. Later he said his kingdom is not of this world and comes not with observation. And that the kingdom is within you.

In contrast, the Pharisees taught a literal physical millennial kingdom based on a literal interpretation of Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. So naturally, they rejected Jesus’ gospel of the kingdom in favor of theirs. Also many followers looking for a physical millennial kingdom did too, even today. The disciples did not understand the nature of the kingdom still questioning its whereabouts leading up to Pentecost until Peter preached the same gospel of the kingdom Jesus preached.

And so, here’s where the split begins. Do we side with Jesus, Peter and Daniel, thinking the kingdom came, and it is spiritual? Or do we side with the Pharisees and other millennialists thinking Jesus, Peter and Daniel were wrong? Because the physical kingdom described by the prophets didn’t show when it was supposed to?

Since Jesus preached the gospel of the present spiritual kingdom, it means this. If Jesus and Daniel were right, all the Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies were symbols of the spiritual Kingdom, not to be taken literally. And the kingdom came on time during the ancient Roman Empire and we have been living in it ever since.

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)


So Jesus would rule from David’s Throne in heaven while David remains dead and buried. That is before the resurrection on the last day. That is now. While we wait for our resurrection, the resurrection of David and all believers on earth’s last day.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple if you look at it this way. God’s Temple made without hands. Only God can build Ezekiel’s Temple because of its incomplete measurements. You would need to add to God’s word in order to build it with human hands. Also, because it calls for a return to animal sacrifices, if taken literally, it would involve you in unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. An unforgivable return to animal sacrifices.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple, the Temple made without hands, along with the Church in whom God dwells.

Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” Luke 16:16 (KJV 1900)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

“When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:12 (KJV 1900)

“That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.” 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV 1900)

“And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Acts 19:8 (KJV 1900)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

https://www.talkjesus.com/posts/361415/edit
NO NT author defines the kingdom other than righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Spirit
 
NO NT author defines the kingdom other than righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Spirit

Huh?

Rev 12:7; And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,
Rev 19:11; And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
Matt 10:34; "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Rev 2:16; 'Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.

Rev 14:19; So the angel swung his sickle to the earth and gathered the clusters from the vine of the earth, and threw them into the great wine press of the wrath of God.
Rev 14:20; And the wine press was trodden outside the city, and blood came out from the wine press, up to the horses' bridles, for a distance of two hundred miles.

Rev 19:14; And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
Rev 19:15; From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
Rev 19:16; And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
Rev 19:19; And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
Rev 19:21; And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

2Cor 10:3; For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
Eph 6:12; For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

1Pet 2:11; Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.
1Pet 5:8; Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Rev 13:7 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

That's John, Peter and Paul. In the OT there are a few more.

Dan 10:5; I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, there was a certain man dressed in linen, whose waist was girded with a belt of pure gold of Uphaz.
Dan 10:6; His body also was like beryl, his face had the appearance of lightning, his eyes were like flaming torches, his arms and feet like the gleam of polished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a tumult.
Dan 10:12; Then he said to me, "Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.
Dan 10:13; "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.
 
“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 3:2 (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12 (KJV 1900)

“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)

Everyone expected a literal physical kingdom similar to David’s that would rid the land of the Romans and do all the Old Testament prophets said it would do.

But here’s what happened. Jesus continued preaching the gospel of the Kingdom describing it as present, invisible, and also as spiritual. A kingdom only the born again could see. Later he said his kingdom is not of this world and comes not with observation. And that the kingdom is within you.



In contrast, the Pharisees taught a literal physical millennial kingdom based on a literal interpretation of Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies. So naturally, they rejected Jesus’ gospel of the kingdom in favor of theirs. Also many followers looking for a physical millennial kingdom did too, even today. The disciples did not understand the nature of the kingdom still questioning its whereabouts leading up to Pentecost until Peter preached the same gospel of the kingdom Jesus preached.

And so, here’s where the split begins. Do we side with Jesus, Peter and Daniel, thinking the kingdom came, and it is spiritual? Or do we side with the Pharisees and other millennialists thinking Jesus, Peter and Daniel were wrong? Because the physical kingdom described by the prophets didn’t show when it was supposed to?

Since Jesus preached the gospel of the present spiritual kingdom, it means this. If Jesus and Daniel were right, all the Old Testament Kingdom Prophecies were symbols of the spiritual Kingdom, not to be taken literally. And the kingdom came on time during the ancient Roman Empire and we have been living in it ever since.

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)


So Jesus would rule from David’s Throne in heaven while David remains dead and buried. That is before the resurrection on the last day. That is now. While we wait for our resurrection, the resurrection of David and all believers on earth’s last day.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple if you look at it this way. God’s Temple made without hands. Only God can build Ezekiel’s Temple because of its incomplete measurements. You would need to add to God’s word in order to build it with human hands. Also, because it calls for a return to animal sacrifices, if taken literally, it would involve you in unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. An unforgivable return to animal sacrifices.

Jesus is Ezekiel’s Temple, the Temple made without hands, along with the Church in whom God dwells.

Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” Luke 16:16 (KJV 1900)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

“When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:12 (KJV 1900)

“That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.” 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV 1900)

“And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Acts 19:8 (KJV 1900)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

https://www.talkjesus.com/posts/361415/edit
Hello @Dave L,

The Kingdom is God's Kingdom, He is the Originator and the Designer of it, and it will be only by His almighty power that it will come to fruition as a glorious fact. The kingdom of God is a present reality, as shown in such Scriptures as 1 Chronicles 29:11; Psalms 103:19:-

'Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power,
and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty:
for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is Thine;
Thine is the kingdom, O LORD,
and Thou art exalted as Head above all.'
(1 Chronicles 29:11)

' The LORD hath prepared His throne in the heavens;
and His kingdom ruleth over all.'
(Psalms 103:19)

* In the Lord's prayer we have the words, 'Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, in earth as it is in Heaven.' The Kingdom of God has yet to be established in the earth, as it is in Heaven. Within the purpose of God it was necessary for the Lord Jesus Christ to righteously eliminate sin and death from creation so that the kingdom of God, which is a reality in heaven may become manifest over the whole creation which includes the earth.

* At the present time we have sin, death and open rebellion against God as far as the earth is concerned and these must be removed before that glorious time envisaged by the prophets comes to pass, when 'the knowledge of God shall cover the earth as the waters cover the sea' (Habakkuk 2:14), when war will be removed and universal peace take its place, 'when nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more' (Micah 4:1-4).

* The kingdom of God is both material and spiritual. It is enjoyed now by those who have come to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as their Saviour and Lord, in spirit (spiritually), but ultimately it will be a reality on the earth as it is now in heaven.

* Regarding the prophecies of the Old Testament, I believe they should be taken literally.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
A lot of the times, in the Bible, you will see words like "as" or "like".

Rev 1:14; His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire.
Rev 1:15; His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters.

These are sometimes spiritual metaphors, but sometimes they are simply descriptions of what something was "like".
Perhaps above Jesus's feet weren't actually bronze, but they were "like" bronze.

In contrast, physical things are never "like" something, they are what they are.
For example...

Rev 21:12; It had a great and high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names were written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel.
Rev 21:13; There were three gates on the east and three gates on the north and three gates on the south and three gates on the west.
Rev 21:14; And the wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Rev 21:15; The one who spoke with me had a gold measuring rod to measure the city, and its gates and its wall.
Rev 21:16; The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal.
Rev 21:17; And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements.
Rev 21:18; The material of the wall was jasper; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass.
Rev 21:19; The foundation stones of the city wall were adorned with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation stone was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
Rev 21:20; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.
Rev 21:21; And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; each one of the gates was a single pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass.

These aren't spiritual metaphors, this is a physical place, with physical dimensions, and actual physical materials.
For example the gates aren't "like" pearls, they actually are pearl. The foundation stones aren't "like" jasper, sapphire and emeralds, they actually are these stones.
There are a couple of sentences above where the gold is "like" transparent glass, but the fact is, it's still gold.
Spiritual metaphors in the BIble never have dimensions, like inches or feet, but this city has physical dimensions.
 
Huh?

Rev 12:7; And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,
Rev 19:11; And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
Matt 10:34; "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Rev 2:16; 'Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.

Rev 14:19; So the angel swung his sickle to the earth and gathered the clusters from the vine of the earth, and threw them into the great wine press of the wrath of God.
Rev 14:20; And the wine press was trodden outside the city, and blood came out from the wine press, up to the horses' bridles, for a distance of two hundred miles.

Rev 19:14; And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
Rev 19:15; From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
Rev 19:16; And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
Rev 19:19; And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
Rev 19:21; And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

2Cor 10:3; For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
Eph 6:12; For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

1Pet 2:11; Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.
1Pet 5:8; Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Rev 13:7 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.

That's John, Peter and Paul. In the OT there are a few more.

Dan 10:5; I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, there was a certain man dressed in linen, whose waist was girded with a belt of pure gold of Uphaz.
Dan 10:6; His body also was like beryl, his face had the appearance of lightning, his eyes were like flaming torches, his arms and feet like the gleam of polished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a tumult.
Dan 10:12; Then he said to me, "Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.
Dan 10:13; "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.
Im wondering whether you have a point with all this ?
 
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