Muslim Need help with a project

[Cody]

Dear Muslim brother Mat
Please forgive my bigoted Christian friends, and remember those that are trying to convert you think they are doing God a service.

I don't "think". The fact is Jesus is God and if He wasn't, our sins wouldn't be forgiven. Jesus is the only way and if I didn't care about my muslim friend, I wouldn't be warning him.

 

[Uncle Steve]

I Kings 9:39-44

Obadiah's father was Azel, & his father was Eleasah, & his father was Rephaiah, & his father was Binea, & his father was Moza, & his father was Zimri, & his father was Jarah, & his father was Ahaz, & his father was Micah, & his father was Meribbaal, & his father was Jonathan, & his father was Saul, & his father was Kish, & his father was Ner. They live in Jerusalem, & They were of the Tribe of Levi.

 

[mat]

Hey Uncle Steve could you repost your reference i do not believe there is a verse after 28 in the 9th chapter of 1st kings. Thank you

 

[Uncle Steve]

Sorry, I Chronicles9:39-44

The Genealogies of Isreal I Chronicles1:1-9:44,These are the offical Family records of the nation of Isreal. They give us an overview of the history of GOD's work fron creation to captivity of His people. These records served to teach the exiles returning from babylon about their spiritual heritage as a nation & to inspire them to renew their faithfulness to GOD. Although these lists show the racial heritage of the jews, they contain the spiritual heritage for every believer. We are a part of the community of faith that has existed from generation to generation since the dawn of men.

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Hey Uncle Steve could you repost your reference i do not believe there is a verse after 28 in the 9th chapter of 1st kings. Thank you

Have you ever truly try Jesus into your life. I believe a non-Believer should not be reading the bible but first try Jesus because there no Holy Spirit inside you. Allah going to teach you different from what the Holy Spirit dose.

Colossians 2:23
These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy! Guard what was committed to your trust, avoiding the profane and idle babblings and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge—

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Try Jesus, taste it, give it a try and see who is the light that shine upon your life..
1 John 5:10
He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Do you now accept him as your lord and savior, is your choice because Jehovah has something very power into your life because salvation is a free gift from God. We are save by grace, not by works!


Romans 10:8-12
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[a](that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.

 

[mat]

How can a nonbeliever be not allowed to read the bible but then you tell them to just accept Jesus pbuh. How can one accept Jesus pbuh or know him w/o reading the Bible. Thus how can a non believer become a believer w/o scripture? You say these things and you say i should not read the bible, and then, you post quotes from the Bible. LOL
Thanks for your input brother. Please stop trying to convert me i come from an xtian family i know all about the religion. It is a beautiful one at that. But i prefer Islam thanks for your intention though.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Stylz, I disagree with you. To say that non-believers should "try on" Jesus before taking up Bible reading is like saying a student driver should drive an automobile before reading a driver's manual. In my case, the Holy Spirit started working from the outside. You might say He moved from the outside to the inside when I asked Jesus to be my Lord and Savior.

Aside from our personal testimonies, there is probably no better way to introduce not-yet-Christians to Jesus than encouraging them to read the New Testament.

SLE

 

[Cody]

Stylz, I disagree with you. To say that non-believers should "try on" Jesus before taking up Bible reading is like saying a student driver should drive an automobile before reading a driver's manual. In my case, the Holy Spirit started working from the outside. You might say He moved from the outside to the inside when I asked Jesus to be my Lord and Savior.

Aside from our personal testimonies, there is probably no better way to introduce not-yet-Christians to Jesus than encouraging them to read the New Testament.

SLE

Amen, to know how to be saved, someone must read the Bible and understand it.

 

[Faithful Son]

Faithful Son I do not appreciate you calling me Satan and or a satanist. I am also not an anti-Christ. Muslims are not Anti-Christs either. As i said before i am not here to start debates or arguments. I am only here for some help on a topic. If you do not have the answer please do not attack me i do not attack your beliefs.
Thank you

I provided the scripture which shows you and all your muslim friends are antichrists.

I did not call you satan, but your father is satan. I'm also not attacking you, I'm telling you that your beliefs don't align with the teachings of Jesus, that you can't merely say Jesus was a prophet and that Jesus is GOD.

If you feel sad or threatened about my comments, maybe you should start looking at yourself, you must know the Bible does not lie. So if you say muslims aren't antichrists, you are saying the Word of God lies.

 

[Stylez4Christ]

I'm not really saying you can't really read the bible but you can as you wish because I know friend who are not Christian and I let them read it, but that’s ok but then they read it like a novel the bible was not made for non-believer and then also they don’t understand it. So if anybody disagree with me then that’s ok but non-believer like atheist know the bible so well that they take out scriptures to put them under attack on Christians but then I believe it is dangerous because Satan knows the bible and use people and people life is not having a better truth but still being deceive, it is because non-believer don’t have the holy spirit, Muslims don’t believed in the holy spirit. I’m not stupid and I know what I am talking about… Hey, mat I am not trying to convert you it is just a Relationship with Christ and your choice, but now you choose to be denying the Lamb of God (Jesus) and is very bad because you denying the power and what God has to offer you. I bet you 100% that if you ever receive Jesus into your life I know God going to do a mighty great things in your life then what Allah has. This is not about religion, traditions and the good news is, its not religion and traditions it is truth and salvations. You Muslim people belief Jesus but you deny that he is God, he says , I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me..

 

[Stylez4Christ]

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Amen, to know how to be saved, someone must read the Bible and understand it.

I gave the scripture about that

 

[Uncle Steve]

To Mat,Loved by God

Did you get what you need? I have a very good Library if you have any more questions. As far as sharing, every man must find his own salvation with fear & trembling. The HOLY SPIRIT does work from the inside & out. CHRIST died so that all men could be drawn toward GOD.

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Did you get what you need? I have a very good Library if you have any more questions. As far as sharing, every man must find his own salvation with fear & trembling. The HOLY SPIRIT does work from the inside & out. CHRIST died so that all men could be drawn toward GOD.

Amen... Muslims has a root in pagan and of wichtcraft. I heard of people that was a muslim but hey they let God to have his way into there life..

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Stylz, I disagree with you. To say that non-believers should "try on" Jesus before taking up Bible reading is like saying a student driver should drive an automobile before reading a driver's manual. In my case, the Holy Spirit started working from the outside. You might say He moved from the outside to the inside when I asked Jesus to be my Lord and Savior.

Aside from our personal testimonies, there is probably no better way to introduce not-yet-Christians to Jesus than encouraging them to read the New Testament.

SLE

I kinda changes my mind but I have to say that I believed that a non believer can get touch by the holy spirit but they can resist it which is not good

 

[mat]

Yes, i just want to double check tha the lineage given in 1 Chrinicals is reffering to same Obadiah that has his own book in the OT.

is this correct?

 

[Jonah2005bt]

Hi Mat,

what is your project about that you would need this information?

*genesis

 

[mat]

Well to put it simply I am trying to track the lineage of all the prophets. Major and Minor and those before Jacob AKA Israel as well. I am also tracking their lineage according to Islam and The Jewish faith. The whole poiunt of this project is to compare the similarities of the faiths rather then the differences.

There is a lineage described in I Chronicles9:39-44 as Obadiah;s Lineage. However, i want to confirm that this is the same Obadiah as the character who is one of the minor prophets and has his own book in the OT. If this is indeed the same person then i can be on my way with my handy collection of prophet lineage .

anyway I am still looking for that confirmation. Thank you.

 

[rizen1]

Hi Mat, I've found many websites that would help you, feel free to pm.

= Pinkbible well I saw in another thread someone said they used a software called e-sword why don't you try that. I saw that you can download the software on your computer if I'm not mistaken.

= aksd
Can you go to some Bible Seminary with a library? There you will find books & dictionaries on proper names and Bible Encyclopedias. Use the resources there for gleaning the required information. The program e-Sword also has some resources to search with.

As for now this thread is close.
Peace be with you.