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I am neither a christian nor a muslim. I seek to see the unity of religious teachings. There is much unity between Christianity and Islam.
Gods message comes in many forms to many people in different places and different times. There is no seperation only unity. Any seperation and division is what we (mankind) are deluded about. We may seek and find God in holy scripture be it the bible the koran or anything else. The test of its authenticity will be on our hearts. If God is love does it speak of love?
If GOd is unity does it speak of unity?
If God is compassion does it speak of compassion?
Were there is apparant difference can we use this difference to find bigger truth? For the whole truth may be larger than the sum of its parts.
This notion of a GOd of unification may be a challenge to many but it an understanding that will heal the hurt and lead to a better tomorrow

To me a God of unification sounds like a man made notion. I think if a person made a religion then it would be PC, accepting of all different kinds of beliefs and comfortably aligned with how we currently live but Christianity is none of that. The main principles of Christianity are not love, unity and compassion but faith, hope and love. Although love is the most important faith is still necessary because it is necessary to believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He died on the cross for sinners (that is love). Christianity is also most definitely not about unity with non-believers:

Matthew 10:34-36 - "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household."

In this verse Jesus is speaking about the divisions that will come, even among family members, over their belief or lack of belief about Him.

If the Bible and the Koran both pass the test of authenticity then how can one claim that Jesus is the Son of God and that no one can know the Father without knowing Him while the Koran states that Jesus was just a prophet. You would have to selectively ignore most of the Bible and most of the Koran to try to make Islam and Christianity one uniform religion. What bigger truth can you get out of these differences? I'm not trying to attack you but I just think that if you take out what different religions believe in to try to get overarching themes then all you're left with is platitudes.
My view is that liberals bias helps folks to ignore the facts that do not suit them. It is really sad when folks buy phony baloney without fact checking. Since I only referenced Fox news once (although I consider them as a trusted source) your argument holds no water.
It is a great thing to live in an electronic age where you can provide video and physical evidence on these crazy folks.
Lets do the Obama thing- he said to judge him by the people he surrounds himself with. He appointed Marxists, communists, homosexuals and child sex offenders to many posts. If we apply that same standard (the one the President suggested) to the Imam we can see he surrounds himself with anti-Americans and jihadists.
About the liberal networks- NBC and CNBC are owned by General Electric Corp and I can provide conclusive proof that the management of GE ordered those networks not to report any anti-Obama article (and in fact chastised them for occasionally doing so). Seeing as they contributed heavily to Obama's campaign and he promised them those "green" contracts worth hundreds of billions of $ I guess they want to keep him happy.
CBS and CNN also have staff with provable agenda's and often all of these used to be major networks (their ratings are now the pits) are refusing to report major stories.
Do not get mad because someone has the guts to report the facts. If you can show any malfeasance by Fox let us have some facts otherwise it is typical liberal slander.
There is a reason that America is abandoning the liberal newspapers and broadcasters in droves - they simply no longer report the truth but instead they are campaigning for socialism.
So I will end with this:
If you have any proof that Fox is lying then please either post is or quit slandering them.
If you have any proof the Imam is not associated with and accepting funding from known terrorist and jihadists please present it. As I have taken a fair amount of time presenting evidence I suggest you try to do the same.
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Hello Koge06s
its ok i dont see your sharing of your truth as an attack and i trust you wil see mine in the same vein.
There are many so called dichotomies in religeious scripture. eg God is love and God is punishment. God is here and God is there. God is male, god is female god is without gender etc etc
Jesus is the son of God, Jesus is a prophet. We neednt see these as contracdictions but as clues to larger truths. Can the son of God prohesize? Indeed he can. so there lies the seeds of reconciliation of the dichotomy.
GOd is here and god is there leads to larger truths of Gods omnipresence and so forth. To understand these dichotomies we need to appoach the differences with an open heart and tune into GOds message. You say christianity is about love. Then ask what would love do? what would love say? Dont dismiss answers as being too good to be true for you may indeed find that God is too good to be true.

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