Mormons, JW, Judaism, one thing in common

[Dave M]

I often see people call out JW, and Mormons as cults, but never Judaism, yet they deny Christ. wonder what makes a cult

1 John 2:22​

Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:10-11​

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

 

[B-A-C]

I don't think followers of Judaism are saved any more than the other two.

But on the other hand... Christianity was founded out of Judaism. Christians believe everything in the Old Testament.
Also... the Bible has a promise that a remnant if Israel will be saved. A "partial hardening" has been put on Israel until
"the fullness of the Gentiles" has come in. So it seems many Jews will eventually be saved.

I don't see a similar promise for the other two.

Still, you have a point. They aren't saved. They have been "grafted out".

 

[Curtis]

By the term cult I mean nothing derogatory to any group so classified. A cult, as I define it, is any religious group which differs significantly in one or more respects as to belief or practice from those religious groups which are regarded as the normative expressions of religion in our total culture.

Walter Martin then writes, “I may add to this that a cult might also be defined as a group of people gathered about a specific person or person’s misinterpretation of the Bible.”

I would not consider Judaism a cult as they were the “natural branches” who were broken off because of unbelief.
The broken natural branches can be easily grafted back in.

 

[Dave M]

I would not consider Judaism a cult as they were the “natural branches” who were broken off because of unbelief.
The broken natural branches can be easily grafted back in.

this is interesting and got me thinking, what is the difference between OT Judaism that pointed to Christ and awaited for the Christ, and was of God,,

and now today Judaism that denies Christ. and Gods own words says that they are of the anti Christ if the deny the Father and son.

Seems at one point Judaism has changed, and no longer of God, but of then Anti Christ,,,, as Gods own word says.

Of course he did not give any up that believed in his Son,,, that was pointed to in Judaism the whole time!! as a matter fact he gave them a much better covenant under Christ.

Seems to me Judaism was what the OT says "a shadow of good things to come," a stepping stone to the better convent, its was was not fully reveled in the OT , but in the NT we can now see it was always there.

Those living in and under Judaism are living in a curse, and only Jesus can set them free.

Not sure how anyone can spiritually say that the Jewish people living under Judaism are still Gods people,, when they reject his son, and the NT makes clear its is those who believe in Jesus that are the Gods people

1 Peter 2:9​

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

 

[Garee]

this is interesting and got me thinking, what is the difference between OT Judaism that pointed to Christ and awaited for the Christ, and was of God,,

and now today Judaism that denies Christ. and Gods own words says that they are of the anti Christ if the deny the Father and son.

Seems at one point Judaism has changed, and no longer of God, but of then Anti Christ,,,, as Gods own word says.

Of course he did not give any up that believed in his Son,,, that was pointed to in Judaism the whole time!! as a matter fact he gave them a much better covenant under Christ.

Seems to me Judaism was what the OT says "a shadow of good things to come," a stepping stone to the better convent, its was was not fully reveled in the OT , but in the NT we can now see it was always there.

Those living in and under Judaism are living in a curse, and only Jesus can set them free.

Not sure how anyone can spiritually say that the Jewish people living under Judaism are still Gods people,, when they reject his son, and the NT makes clear its is those who believe in Jesus that are the Gods people

1 Peter 2:9​

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

JW, and Mormons the same as Judaism, serving oral traditions of dying mankind. In that way there must be differences in opinions (heresies) as long as they do not do despite to the fulness of Christ grace, the whole cost of salvation.

False apostles called antichrists add to (sola scriptura) it began in the garden of Eden four words of false prophecy."Neither shall you touch" The fall of mankind

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

A chosen people not chosen race. God is not a racist.

Racism based on looks is the sin of murder (character assignation). Not a far-left political weapon to accuse the believers.

Only God can see into the hearts of dying mankind

The inward born again Jew not according to dying flesh.

Jewish line of reasoning came after the born-again line of reasoning which began with the second born Abel the apostle the martyr. As the second born seed (spiritual Christ).it was passed down by Abraham meaning (the father of all the nations) another second born seed Christ

In the garden It was passed down to Enos another second born to represent the doctrine dying mankind "must be born again" it was passed down ten second born generations used to represent a unknow in parables then fourteen generations times three. Then came the birth of God's first born from above

It was not until the second birth Enos by whom God replaced Abel the apostle to emphasize a person must be born from above before born again no man could call on the name or power of Christ

Genisis 4:25;And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.;And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

Matthew 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

 

[Gothedral]

anti-Christ still persecute and execute Christians to this very moment, just like roughly 2000 years ago (if the modern calendar is true)

Saint Mark chapter 9 (KJV)

38 And John answered Him, saying, "Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us."

39 But Jesus said, "Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward."

This is what I mean about the current situation of Satanic infiltration and in-fighting amongst Christians in general. I tend to think we are all in grave danger as much as the so-called non-believers.