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Yvette Tanson

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If Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (hebrews 13:8) why aren't we still seeing miracles, healings and deliverences as there was in the bible?
John 14 :12 says "Most assuredly i say to you, he who believes in me, the works that i do he will do also: and greater works works than these he will do because i go to my Father". And Mark16:17-18 says "And these signs will follow those who believe:In my name they will cast out demons: they will speak with new tongues;they will take up serpents; and ifthey drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover"
These are promises that our Master makes in his word so why arnt they happening? Where did the church go wrong? because they happened for the early church.
 
In the Ecclesiastes there's scripture that says, "a time for everything".

That's how I see it, there's a time for everything. One thing you have to remember though sister, even when Jesus spread the Gospel of faith in Him, He only did it for close to 3 years, that's not very long.

During those 3 years, Israel was the only place where His miracles were done, nowhere else in the world.

I read this forum lots of times and especially in Asia there is such miraculous events that I sometimes think, is it true?

If I think, is it true? I realize how little faith I actually have.

In my own life, I've experienced the miracles and wonders of God with my own eyes, I'm only 23 years old. I don't ask for signs and you must remember what Jesus said as well:

Matthew 12:39
But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
 
Yes but in the new testament the preaching of the gospel was accompanied with signs and wonders both with the Lord Jesus and with the early church, and they had thousands of people being saved all the time. These days we think it's a miracle if 1 person gets saved when we preach the gospel. Why?
 
Because it is a miracle if one person gets saved.

Luke 15:10
Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.
 
Yes you're right it is a miracle if 1 person gets saved, but when it happens why are we so surprised by it?
 
You seem to be assuming things to a certain degree at least, on your own understanding. I've heard of many miracles in peoples lives. GOD does things on His own timing according to His own will. If He chose to do many miracles through Jesus Christ His Son at that time of Christ's ministry, what's our reasoning to assume GOD will do the same 2,000 years later? Where do you come off assuming that the supernatural miracles performed by Christ had to be similar kind of miracles today? If one does get saved, it is indeed a miracle. Is that not good enough that people need a show with fireworks from Heaven?

If one got saved or if 1,000 got saved, how is it less of a miracle in and of itself? Its still a miracle either way, no more and no less. You cannot measure GOD's miracles based on quantity.

American Heritage Dictionary
term: miracle

An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God: “Miracles are spontaneous, they cannot be summoned, but come of themselves” (Katherine Anne Porter).

As you can see, a person getting saved is by GOD's grace and the works of the Holy Spirit convicting that newly saved person.

I can tell that you have not read much about what GOD does in Christian ministries overseas. Miracles that will blow your mind. I suggest signing up for BGEA newsletter and especially sign up for GFA Outreach newsletter too called Send. They're both free and amazing.

The only way your going to witness or hear of miracles is by seeking them in the right places. Christian charities is a huge place, probably bigger than your usual churches.

Mathew Henry's Commentary

I. Great power on earth (v. 12): He that believeth on me (as I know you do), the works that I do shall he do also. This does not weaken the argument Christ had taken from his works, to prove himself one with the Father (that others should do as great works), but rather strengthens it; for the miracles which the apostles wrought were wrought in his name, and by faith in him; and this magnifies his power more than any thing, that he not only wrought miracles himself, but gave power to others to do so too.

1. Two things he assures them of:—

(1.) That they should be enabled to do such works as he had done, and that they should have a more ample power for the doing of them than they had had when he first sent them forth, Mt. 10:8. Did Christ heal the sick, cleanse the leper, raise the dead? So should they. Did he convince and convert sinners, and draw multitudes to him? So should they. Though he should depart, the work should not cease, nor fall to the ground, but should be carried on as vigorously and successfully as ever; and it is still in the doing.

(2.) That they should do greater works than these.

[1.] In the kingdom of nature they should work greater miracles. No miracle is little, but some to our apprehension seem greater than others. Christ had healed with the hem of his garment, but Peter with his shadow (Acts 5:15), Paul by the handkerchief that had touched him, Acts 19:12. Christ wrought miracles for two or three years in one country, but his followers wrought miracles in his name for many ages in divers countries. You shall do greater works, if there be occasion, for the glory of God. The prayer of faith, if at any time it had been necessary, would have removed mountains.

[2.] In the kingdom of grace. They should obtain greater victories by the gospel than had been obtained while Christ was upon earth. The truth is, the captivating of so great a part of the world to Christ, under such outward disadvantages, was the miracle of all. I think this refers especially to the gift of tongues; this was the immediate effect of the pouring out of the Spirit, which was a constant miracle upon the mind, in which words are framed, and which was made to serve so glorious an intention as that of spreading the gospel to all nations in their own language. This was a greater sign to them that believed not (1 Co. 14:22), and more powerful for their conviction, than any other miracle whatever.

2. The reason Christ gives for this is, Because I go unto my Father, (1.) "Because I go, it will be requisite that you should have such a power, lest the work suffer damage by my absence.’’ (2.) "Because I go to the Father, I shall be in a capacity to furnish you with such a power, for I go to the Father, to send the Comforter, from whom you shall receive power,’’ Acts 1:8. The wonderful works which they did in Christ’s name were part of the glories of his exalted state, when he ascended on high, Eph. 4:8.
 
If Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (hebrews 13:8) why aren't we still seeing miracles, healings and deliverences as there was in the bible?
John 14 :12 says "Most assuredly i say to you, he who believes in me, the works that i do he will do also: and greater works works than these he will do because i go to my Father". And Mark16:17-18 says "And these signs will follow those who believe:In my name they will cast out demons: they will speak with new tongues;they will take up serpents; and ifthey drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover"
These are promises that our Master makes in his word so why arnt they happening? Where did the church go wrong? because they happened for the early church.

We have had some lovely miricles in our church fellowship over this last 12 months. One I recall vividly. Along with others, laying on of hands was taking place for folks responding to the altar call for any need.....

The lady fell....was lowered to the floor as we prayed. I looked down to her as she writhed and squirmed on the floor. I said in my heart 'that is not the Lord' as she stretched about.

She got to her feet and informed us that she suffered from rhumertoid athritus for many years, and now she was free. Lying upon the floor she had stretched and moved her body in ways she has not been able to do for years.

I asked her recently how she was feeling and getting on. She said that she has now almost reduced her medication to zero.

Another incident I recall this year We were praying for the sick as is our custom during the a.m Sunday gathering. On this occasion I was standing to the rear of a lady as my brothers and I prayed. I took my eyes off the situatioin for a moment.........the lady slipped through my hands and fell to the floor rather heavily. MmMm

I was so pleased when she arose ok She has since given testimony to a mighty bodily touch from Jesus, freedom from pain of many years, as a result.

I have asked these folks how they were getting on.........since the prayer and their initial testimony. I am delighted to tell you that these folks are still healed, and are able to live and do things not done for some time.

I an so glad that out Father in Heaven
Tells of His love in the book He has given.
Wonderful things in the bible I see,
This is the dearest....thet Jesus loves me.........YES HE DOES
 
I seemed to annoy some people by my question, that wasnt my intention and i'm sorry. I'm not assuming anything.
I asked the question because there doesnt seem to be any miracles where i live, and if you ask about them people tend to know someone who knows someone else, who then knows someone else, who also knows someone else who had a miracle in their lives, but that's the extent of it, nothing very substatial.
I just wanted to know why if miracles happened in the bible why they werent still happening.
Sorry if my question annoyed people, i'm not very good at putting things across.
 
I seemed to annoy some people by my question, that wasnt my intention and i'm sorry. I'm not assuming anything.
I asked the question because there doesnt seem to be any miracles where i live, and if you ask about them people tend to know someone who knows someone else, who then knows someone else, who also knows someone else who had a miracle in their lives, but that's the extent of it, nothing very substatial.
I just wanted to know why if miracles happened in the bible why they werent still happening.
Sorry if my question annoyed people, i'm not very good at putting things across.

You did nothing wrong sister. My tone was a little frustrated (had a rough day when I responded) and I expressed it at you. I apologize for that. You asked a very legitimate and good question. After all, we should be concerned about witnessing GOD's works in our lives (and others). These are called miracles for the most part because anything GOD does is supernatural.

GOD bless
 
I dont understand .
I just wanted to know why if miracles happened in the bible why they werent still happening.

Just because its not in our faces, doesnt mean its not happening.

There are people who have stories, about surviving the terrorist attacks, natural disasters delivered from sicknesses.

Everyday, the Lord's hands are on this earth, and nothing is imposibble for him.

What is your definition of the word miracle, what do you look for ?
Just wondering.

God bless.

 
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Miracles do happen. I too had this same question some time back, thinking why does one not speak up more about God's wonderful powers.
It's more spoken about and heard about in the respective churches (buildings), that one attends. Unfortunately, that's where it stays. We as believers should share and glorify God more outside these buildings. I have often asked myself and wondered why people are so ashamed in glorifying God outside these buildings, it still baffles me. Some spirit is doing this to them, that's all I know. It's stopping believers going out there in glorifying God's good work.

I will tell you what happened to me last week. Our company got broken into, they stole a lot of stuff, the offices that were locked had there doors smashed open and the PC's and money was stolen and the offices were an absolute mess, papers and office stuff thrown all over the floor. As I walked down to my office, I did not fear and the closer I got to my office door, I saw the door was still intact and not smashed in at all. I unlocked my door and my office was, as I had left it, the day before. That was such a blessing to me. I just kept thanking God for protecting my office and me from such evilness and wickedness that's surrounds me.

Many were amazed at my office not being entered into. So I will continue to praise and thank God and tell others how God can protect us.
 
Here's a thought, maybe the gospel commonly preached today is not the same gospel that was preached by the first century church. Maybe today's church is not submitted to HolySpirit like they were in the begining.

Just a thought.
 
Rizen1 Well before i could give you my definition of a miracle first i had to find out what the word definition meant.
I didnt do very well in english at school.
Then i looked up the word miracle in the dictionary and it said: a remarkable and welcome event that seems impossible to explain by means of the known laws of nature and which is therefore attributed to a supernatural agency.
I guess i think of miracles as seen in the bible, parting the red sea, healings, winning against all the odds, raising the dead, walking on water, the burning bush, an old lady getting pregnant, a virgin getting pregnant, turning water in to wine, knocking down the walls of Jericho by marching round it then yelling, and ultimately the crucifiction and resurrection.
I think a miracle is something that happens that my non-christian husband cant explain. Trust me that will be a miracle, he has a n answer for everything
 
Well you gave a great illustration.

I think a miracle is something that happens that my non-christian husband cant explain. Trust me that will be a miracle, he has a n answer for everything

God bless him..lol
 
If Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (hebrews 13:8) why aren't we still seeing miracles, healings and deliverences as there was in the bible?
John 14 :12 says "Most assuredly i say to you, he who believes in me, the works that i do he will do also: and greater works works than these he will do because i go to my Father". And Mark16:17-18 says "And these signs will follow those who believe:In my name they will cast out demons: they will speak with new tongues;they will take up serpents; and ifthey drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover"
These are promises that our Master makes in his word so why arnt they happening? Where did the church go wrong? because they happened for the early church.

well the answer to that is kinda simple really. Those beleivers who walk in faith and believe in the power of God to do miracles etc.. today see them and see them often. And when you fellowship with other beleivers who also believe in them today you see them greatly multiplied and receive many testimonies to the fact. But the majority of asleep churches and denominations teach that these things do not happen today so their people have no faith in these things and even if they were to hear of them or see them they call them evil or say God doesnt do them anymore.

many of our brethern live with a " powerless God" and it leaves them being tossed around by the world and trapped in the world being almost no differnt than the lost people. He is our Daddy and He promised ALREADY to heal and deliver and provide and give us the victory over sin and the world! but if we do not mix the good news of His promises with faith they will not profit us. the word says the same of the israelites in the wilderness. It says the gospel was also preached to them but it did not profit them because they have not mixed it with faith. People often dont like to hear that it is a faith issue, but if you have been taught that you cannot rely on God to keep His promises- or that He may say no to His promises ( which is against scripture and would make him a liar) or that God just didnt mean those promises to us, then all the power for you to believe has been stolen away.

Since the first year I was saved, the Lord moved me out of going to any doctors, ever, for anything, taking any medicine of any kind, trusting in myself to help me deliver me deal me fix me provide for me etc... and I have lived a life in Him so far that has been completley full of miracles. When we need something, we go to the Lord who promised and we believe Him no matter how things look.

I am not saying you have to do this, each person has there own walk with the Lord, my point is that HE can be trusted and if we get into His word and stop listening to men we will see Him at work. God desires to have us dependant on HIM not the world or men or ourselves. He does not let us down and it is by partaking of the promises that we partake of the divine nature!

most christians are walking around no differnt then the world, trapped in sins, not overcomming, subject to the flesh and the world because they have been told they cant stand on the promises so they do not partake of the divine nature. It is very sad, but it need not be this way
 
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