Meeting with the head obstetrician

[MsMree]

I told some friends on here I would post this to remind them.

For those unaware:

I'm pregnant and have a meeting at 11am Tuesday (GMT + 10) with the head obstetrician at my local hospital.

My first two pregnancies medical staff at this hospital have tried to bully and scare me into unnecessary medical intervention in my pregnancy and labour and have succeeded (I have had two unnecessary caesareans) and the same thing has happened this pregnancy. In this meeting I need to make it clear to the head obstetrician that I will not be consenting to routine hospital policy just for the sake of it, but that I will only accept medical intervention for my pregnancy and labour if it is truly necessary for my own health or the health of my baby.

I'm not worried they will succeed in bullying me again cause I am a much different woman from the woman I was the first two pregnancies, but I would love for those of you who wish to, to pray for the meeting that I will be able to remain relaxed, confident, articulate, polite and gracious.

I really don't like confrontation and this will be the first time I have needed to make my position clear and my midwife assures me it will be no walk in the park.

Thank you for your time reading this.

 

[Coconut]

God be with you Sister <3

 

[californiasun]

i don't know how medical policy works in Aus but in the US, having a written/printed birth plan is an officially accepted way to communicating any needs and preferences. here, they discourage C-sections, unless they are necessary. But i understand in some countries C-sections are the norm as one can schedule a date and get it done without waiting for a whole bunch of natural processes to kick in and the baby to engage. talk about your ideas with your gynecologist at the earliest, get a comfortable dialog going. don't wait for the last minute on this please.

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

pray for the meeting that I will be able to remain relaxed, confident, articulate, polite and gracious.

I absolutely agree with this request before the Lord.
I believe you will have that perfect peace that passes all human understanding and that you would be given that which is to be said to "them".

 

[AbbysAunt]

Hi MrsMree,

My prayers are going up to our Lord for you in this matter. I know through and with Him you will come out on top and get through this.

Please let us know how it goes. Hope you don't mind me asking was just wondering how long till you do have your baby? My prayers are with you and your little one on the way and knowing our Lord Jesus is watching over you and protecting you both.

 

[Brighthouse]

Hi Mrs! When faced with someone you are already dreading, you have learned so much from before!! What I learned, is that when I come face to face now,I pray about the meeting I am going to have first,then I tell my mind to listen to Holy Spirit so I speak his words not my words.

In doing this, here is what I have found out. You have peace! A big relief!Speak to him slow, and listen to Holy Spirit as you hear his words to you.You will be amazed!! At what words you decide to use to him,and so will he!! LOL My prayers are always with you sis!! You will do great!! I know it!! Hugs in Jesus to you.

 

[MsMree]

Okay I'm back from the meeting. I was able to be articulate, polite and gracious. Somewhat less relaxed and confident than I would have liked but it could have been worse.

Sadly the meeting did not eventuate with the head obstetrician and I ended up speaking at length with a junior ob who was either unwilling or unable to sign off on my birth plan. Now I will need to go back next Monday at 9am (GMT +10) to meet with the junior ob that I saw today, the head ob and my midwife.

This meeting was probably more civil than either we were expecting, or what we can expect the next meeting to be.

I am a little shaken and would dearly appreciate your further prayers.

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californiasun: I have a birth plan, the issue is that the hospital has 4 specific areas of policy which I do not agree with and infringe on my rights and I am unwilling to consent to them. They are still sorting through realising that they can't compel me to consent to their policies.

AbbysAunt: I have about 3 months to go.

 

[MsMree]

Apparently the obstetrician I spoke to was not a junior ob but the soon to be head ob, and the ob I am going to meet with next week along with the ob I met this week is a senior ob.

So much buck passing going on.

EDIT: No, apparently she is not the head ob at all. Seems like no one has any idea what is going on. Or some one knows, but no one knows which person that is. Or at least -I- don't know which person that is.

Annoying times.

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

Hi MrsFree,

Joining here. Praying that the Lord will move in your behalf and your baby.

Have peace in the Lord!!!


Blessing to you.


Sis. in Christ Jesus,


ThewidowsOffering

 

[MsMree]

Next meeting is tomorrow at 9am (GMT +10).

Thank you for your prayers last time and so far.

I would love for this to be the last meeting with obstetricians this pregnancy.

 

[MsMree]

I would love for this to be the last meeting with obstetricians this pregnancy.

Sadly this was not the case. I received a call yesterday asking me to attend a 4th meeting, with a head ob, junior ob, head of midwives and my midwife. They have muscled my student midwife out of the meeting by threatening her degree. They are pressuring my husband to attend which neither of us wish. They told me they intend to tape this meeting.

I was quite anxious about this latest call but I have since prayed and received God's peace which has surpassed my understanding

All the same I would appreciate the prayers of my faith family that I will be able to choose a wise response to this.

Honestly I am finding the entire situation completely surreal.

 

[Peace Seeker]

I just noticed this thread and have added you to my prayers, that you are given some extra peace, comfort and grace from the Lord to get you through all of this.
I think you're doing the right thing by sticking to your principles and not letting the staff bully you around.

 

[lawrenceb]

spiritual warfare

I received a call yesterday asking me to attend a 4th meeting, with a head ob, junior ob, head of midwives and my midwife. They have muscled my student midwife out of the meeting by threatening her degree. They are pressuring my husband to attend which neither of us wish. They told me they intend to tape this meeting.

and

...I would appreciate the prayers of my faith family...

I have but a very brief time here at the internet cafe.

Your post caught my attention because of the apparent urgency of your situation.

There's bad news and good news. Firstly, the bad news.

Midwives obtain the authority to do the things they do from Caesar (man's God-less government). It is Caesar (not God) who licenses them and "permits" them to enjoy the commercial benefits as professionals. Thus, Caesar can (and does) mandate that his people adhere to whatever requirements he sees fit, and his requirements are arbitrary and capricious, ever-changing, and never to your ultimate true benefit. For example, at my locale, if the midwife assists in a delivery wherein the baby is stillborn, she will forfeit her license. This, of course, forces the midwife, out of fear (fear is the master in Caesar's world) to introduce or dictate procedures that are beneficial to neither you nor your baby.

Also, since Caesar's system operates via trauma-based fear, whenever you present yourself to him for "dia-"gnosis," he can legally invent opportunities with which to find "fault" with you and/or your baby. It's known as thesis + antithesis = synthesis or, more commonly, problem - reaction - solution. Create the problem you need is the oldest trick in the book. And no one forced you to submit to the hospital and its agenda; you signed the admission papers voluntarily.

The older, more experienced women and mothers no longer mentor the younger. So soon-to-be mothers now go to the hospitals by default. When you submit to Caesar, you will render unto Caesar.

God is a gentleman; he will not over-rule your free-will choice to submit to Caesar. And every action has its consequences.

Secondly, let's talk about the good news. Where is the husband and the father of the baby in all of this? As the spiritual head of his family, he wields more authority in Christ than he knows. My humble advice would be this: Husband needs to assume his role as spiritual and Lawful head of the entire situation; he needs to repent unto God for placing his family in harm's/Caesar's way; he needs to ask the Lord to show him the way he should go in the present situation. Get your husband to pray for you and yours!

As his wife, you must support him in whatever decision(s) he makes in this (and in every) regard. When you do, the Word of God promises that you will be protected through childbirth:

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 KJV)

Honestly I am finding the entire situation completely surreal.

Of course you do. We never realize the extent to which we have been busy rendering unto Caesar that which is rightfully due unto Christ until we find ourselves in a crisis situation...

 

[Brighthouse]

Hi Mrs!! My prayers are with you sis! 1 Cor 10:13 even from those who are ah not so smart?? lol Look for your escape soon! I know you need one!

 

[MsMree]

Hi all, thank you for your concern and prayers, I so appreciate it.

lawrenceb, you may be right, maybe there is an opportunity here for my husband to lead us away from the hospital, nothing would make me happier as I am very familiar with the gist of your post.

Brighthouse, I do feel like there is an escape opening up to me! Amazing you should say it. Will have to wait and see how things play out but it feels very right. The only thing that has felt right all pregnancy.

Will keep this thread updated, thank you all again

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.
Proverbs 3:5-6

Joining in prayer for you MrsMree

Hold fast to the beautiful and sure promises in the Word of God
He will not let you down

Enjoy your pregnancy....rest and rejoice in the Lord's love and the blessing of the little treasure growing within you

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusteth in Thee.
Isaiah 26:3

For all the promises of God in Him are yea, and in Him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
2 Corinthians 1:20

 

[MsMree]

Well, it's official! I finally ditched the hospital and I'm staying home. I'm very happy. Thank you all for your prayers. Expect an update to this thread in roughly 6 weeks

 

[MsMree]

Elite James
born at home at 1:36pm on Sunday 17th of June
60 and 1/2 hours after my waters broke, on and off labour over 3 days, deep labour for 20 hours and 45 minutes of pushing
weighing 3.765g (8 lb 2)

 

[Brighthouse]

Praise the Lord sister!!!!!Elite JAMES Indeed!! No one but you can say this better Mrs!!!! Hebrews 10:36!!! YOU ENDURED!!!!! And because you did,you have received your GREAT!!!! Reward!! I am so proud of you!! GLORY TO GOD!!!

 

[lawrenceb]

All glory and all praise and all honour to the King of kings!


(...and none to Caesar!)