Mark 11.24 and Effectual Prayer

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Hello Every One,
I want to talk about this scripture for several reasons. One it is a very powerful scripture that needs to be understood correctly and it is a scripture that gets misused quite a bit and also twisted as ammunition for those so called heresy hunters of the day.

Mark 11:24 KJV
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, AND ye shall have them.

Ok so we see right off that this is something that Jesus not only said but by saying this He has put it into effect or another words made it so. This should be settled in your heart once and for all. ( Therefore I say unto you )

What things soever ye desire..........when ye pray.....
Now then lets stop here for a moment and think about two words here, things and desire.

In Hebrews we learn that Faith is the substance of "things" hoped for
So we know that it is going to take "some Faith" to see "Things"

Now desire can be seen in several ways here
One being .....Psalm 37:4
Which speaks of taking DELIGHT in the Lord and HE WILL GIVE YOU THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART.
So we see here that God places desires in us and this is .
Now how about praying that the forest fire that is burning houses in your area does not reach your house... That also is a desire....

The point I am making here is This is NOT some whimsical I can have anything I want or say. There are kingdom laws we must abide by and I will bring some of these up as well as a couple of scriptures that also back and play into this scripture a little further down.

Now we move to the BELIEVE that you WILL RECEIVE them ..AND ye shall have them....
This believe is not some whimsical notion some one just dreams up or thinks or hopes they can get. It is not even talking about believing in the natural realm. It is a deep spiritual belief.

You have to see it in your spirit man, feel, know that you know which simply means there is no fear or doubt and I hope it happens. It is real in you before it is manifested or answered unto you in the natural realm. This is true faith in action. You have to have your mind renewed to His word and I am not saying read once in a while. No it is a daily thing this renewing your mind in His written word which BUILDS UP YOUR FAITH and removes doubt and fear.

Hey remember Jairus and Jesus ? Jesus told Jairus STOP THE FEAR......ONLY BELIEVE........The only reason Jesus would have told him that is because fear destroys faith........

Ok lets look at a few Kingdom law scriptures.....

James 1:6-8 KJV
6... But let Him ask in FAITH, "Nothing Wavering" For he that "Wavereth" is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7... For let not that man "Think" that "He Shall" "Receive Anything of the Lord"
8... A double minded man is unstable in his ways.

In these three scriptures we see that Faith with out doubt, unbelief or fear is the Faith that you need to see this through. It shows us that doubt and fear and worry and unbelief steals our blessing and answers to our prayers.
Folks these things are kingdom laws......It is How the Kingdom of God operates.

Now lets look at these scriptures.........Very Important scriptures
1John3:21-24

Now V21 and V22 are bound together backwards and forwards
21... Beloved if our hearts condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22... And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, BECAUSE we "Keep" His Commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

Now these two are simple as well....Follow His plan and Obey His orders
23... And this is HIS Commandment, That we should "BELIEVE" on the name of His Son Jesus Christ AND Love one another "AS HE GAVE" us commandment.
24... And he that keepeth His commandments "Dwelleth in Him" and "HE in him". And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.

Look at V 23.......This shows us we must be born again to do this AND we must Love one another as He has commanded. So here are two kingdom laws that must be obeyed when we desire to receive when we pray.
V 21 and 22 show us if our hearts are pure or not sin ridden we can be confident in God or in His word and when we ask of Him we receive of Him because we do His commandments or what he has written in His word for us to live by and are pleasing unto Him.
V24 shows us when we live by His word we are in Him and He is in us. This does not say some one is not born again if they are not able to yet walk complete in His ways.

One more...........for now, for there are many more that tie into this under Kingdom Law or His way of doing things with His every Commandment.

1 John 5:14-15
14... And this is the confidence that we have in Him, that, if we ask any thing according to His will, He heareth us
15... And if we know that He hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have "the petitions" that we desire of Him.

This is very important to get deep within your heart. Know He hears us when we pray. See God always hears His word. He is constantly watching for His word to be spoken "IN FAITH" and He will move on His word every time.

Now to keep this from getting any longer, if some of you will get involved we can do a true study of this and cover much more indepth study of seeing our prayers answered.

There are so many more scriptures that go along with this. Telling us His answers are always yes and amen. However there are other commandments that go along with this one in which we can cover through out this study....

Such as Forgiving and loving even as HE (God the Father Loves and Forgives) Oh yea we actually are commanded to do these things and they all work together within our Faith and Prayers.

There is more - I decided to split it up- will post more soon
Thank You with my heart for participating within this study.
Blessings and Love in Christ
Jim

 

[robaston]

i can only handle bits of your post jim, this hour of the morning. upto This is NOT some whimsical I can have anything I want or say. you seem spot on and tackle this very well

 

[Chad]

Hi @Wired 4 Fishen

Good topic. Basically, that Scripture is saying whatever we ask..."according to His will". We cannot ask for anything sinful, anything that would hinder His will either, even if they're not necessarily sinful things.

Mark 11:20-25
The Lesson from the Withered Fig Tree
20 As they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away to its roots. 21 And Peter remembered and said to him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree that you cursed has withered.” 22 And Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God. 23 Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25 And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”

John Gill's Exposition

Therefore I say unto you
For encouragement in prayer more particularly, without which nothing should be attempted, and especially which is above the power of nature, and is of a miraculous kind:

whatsoever things ye desire when ye pray;
that is, according to the revealed will of God, is for the confirmation of his Gospel, and for the glory of his name:

believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them];
the petitions that are desired, and the things asked in them: that is, be as much assured of having them, as if you had already received them, and you shall have them; for the sense can never be, that they should believe they received them before they had them; this would be a contradiction in terms; and Beza's ancient copy, and one of Stephens's copies read it, "believe that ye shall receive", as in ( Matthew 21:22 ) , and so the Vulgate Latin version; with which agree the Arabic and Ethiopic versions, which render it, "believe that ye shall enjoy", or "obtain"; and the Syriac version, "believe that ye are about to receive"; and great faith it is so to believe; and this is the prayer of faith; see ( 1 John 5:14 1 John 5:15 ) .

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Hi @Wired 4 Fishen

Good topic. Basically, that Scripture is saying whatever we ask..."according to His will". We cannot ask for anything sinful, anything that would hinder His will either, even if they're not necessarily sinful things.



John Gill's Exposition

Therefore I say unto you
For encouragement in prayer more particularly, without which nothing should be attempted, and especially which is above the power of nature, and is of a miraculous kind:

whatsoever things ye desire when ye pray;
that is, according to the revealed will of God, is for the confirmation of his Gospel, and for the glory of his name:

believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them];
the petitions that are desired, and the things asked in them: that is, be as much assured of having them, as if you had already received them, and you shall have them; for the sense can never be, that they should believe they received them before they had them; this would be a contradiction in terms; and Beza's ancient copy, and one of Stephens's copies read it, "believe that ye shall receive", as in ( Matthew 21:22 ) , and so the Vulgate Latin version; with which agree the Arabic and Ethiopic versions, which render it, "believe that ye shall enjoy", or "obtain"; and the Syriac version, "believe that ye are about to receive"; and great faith it is so to believe; and this is the prayer of faith; see ( 1 John 5:14 1 John 5:15 ) .

Amen Brother Chad and the more I dig into this the more I find out how important this is in our entire walk in Christ.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Part Two......

Hello Every One,

I left off with talking about how Love and Forgiveness is a command and it pleases the Father. In this section I want to bring up a few area's of Love and Forgiveness and how they play into your Prayer life which stems from the original post ......Mark 11:24

Ephesians 4:29-32
29... Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister Grace unto the hearers.
30... And Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31...Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamour and evil speaking, be put away from you with all malice.
32... And be ye kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, EVEN AS GOD for Christ sake hath forgiven you.

First Notice in V 31......be put away from you... ( You Put It Away )
This tells us that we have something to do here. It is up to us to change this type of actions within us.

It can also be said that evil speaking is speech that corrupts Love and Faith words. They are Blessing Blockers or Prayer Robbers. These are words and actions OPPOSED to the Written Word Of God. It is of kingdom Law or the way we are to operate once we get into this Kingdom of God.

We can NOT change this for God put this into effect and so it is simply how it works.

5:1-2 ( 32 & 2 )
1... Be ye then FOLLOWERS of God, as dear children;
2... And WALK IN LOVE AS CHRIST has also loved us; and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour.

Look at V 32 and V2
32 says forgive one another EVEN AS GOD has forgiven you
2 says Walk in LOVE AS or EVEN AS Christ has also loved us

We see here that this is very important in our prayer life and our very walk in Christ. We see here that we not only have to walk in love which means LOVE even as Jesus LOVES......

Now you add Forgive EVEN AS GOD forgives....This is very serious stuff here. Now we see that it is a command to Love and Forgive and we know when we live like this it ALWAYS PLEASING UNTO THE FATHER.

Ok now lets look at this scripture

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything nor uncircumcicion; BUT FAITH WHICH WORKETH BY LOVE.

Now in this scripture we see that Faith Worketh By Love.
So now even our Faith is effected by Love and we know that Love and Forgiveness work together so un-forgiveness and not walking in Love is going to hinder our faith.

If these things hinder our Faith then it is sure to hinder our Prayer Life and if our Prayer life is hindered then the results we desire when we pray are hindered too.

I said this because it is pointless to blame God or say it must not be His will for me when we do not see the answers to our prayers. No my Brothers and Sisters for we already learned that ... 1 John 5:14-15 Tells us

14... And this is the confidence that we have in Him, that, if we ask any thing according to His will, He heareth us
15... And if we know that He hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have "the petitions" that we desire of Him.

So now we know that if our prayer life is not bringing the results desired then it is NOT Gods doing but our own. It is always on our END and not on Gods side of things. We need to go to Him and seek Him and find out what it is that is hindering our prayer life.

Once we find out then repent of it or turn to God and His ways and fix it and more times then none it is something little and easy that just has things all bottle necked up and will begin to flow correctly once you chasnge what ever he showed you to do.

It can be as simpler as a grudge that you are hold.......forgive and love and open the flow of His love and provision once again.
Now look at .... 1JOHN 4:18

There is NO FEAR in LOVE; BUT perfect or PERFECTED LOVE CASTETH OUT ALL FEAR. we just need some more perfecting ......His word perfective much.

The way to perfect His love in us is to practice loving and Forgiving every one.. Spend quality time seek Him in His word. Study about Gods love and meditate on the scriptures telling us how to love. You can not spend time with His word and not learn to Love.

One last one for today........Look at Mark 11:25
We will see here that once again we are commanded to forgive if we want to walk in His word or in this Kingdom in victory.

Mark 11:25
And when ye stand praying, FORGIVE if ye have AUGHT against any; that your Father also which is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

So we can clearly see here a big problem called AUGHT OR UN-FORGIVENESS.

I have heard more times then none some one saying if you only knew what they did to me you would not be saying I have to forgive them or some day I will be able to forgive them but they do not have any remorse for what thery did.

Come on now.........you gonna tell me you can stand praying for the next however many days, weeks or years until you feel it is ok to forgive them ?
It says forgive ANY AUGHT which means no matter what has been done.
This is a COMMANDMENT not a if you want to type of thing. This says Right Now and Right Here any and all un-forgiveness must end.

NOW THAT THE FACT IT IS SPOKEN IN YOUR PRAYING.......
It must be something important concerning your praying. What would be affected by this ?
Answers - Results - Effectiveness of your Prayers.

So now that we have learned this it is time to stop blaming God for not answering you or claiming it must not be His will for me or for them.
No own up to it and find out where you are missing it BECAUSE this is NOT a no fault religion, OUR Christ Bought Salvation - It is Kingdom Law or the Way His Kingdom Operates

Thank You for participating in this section of the study of Mark 11:24 and Effectual Prayers

God Bless and Love in Christ
Jim

 

[robaston]

now upto It is How the Kingdom of God operates. yes, i find there is a need for you and me to beleive, look (as moses said, hope (as in faith)...AND THEN God comes thru, heals, builds one up.......can't wait to read thru your top study jim the marlin!