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John 1:1 Explanation revision

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John 1:1 Explanation
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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1. Most assume because Word was God that Word is God. However John did not bare record of this

John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

2. John also said in the same Chapter

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

3. So we know John bare record that the word is the Son of God.
4. We also know John stated No man hath seen God at any time.
5. At any Time.
6. So Why was The Word God?

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

7. So why did John not bare record that this is God?

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

8. We see in 1Co 8:6 that all things are by The Word ; So The Word made all things
9. However we also see in 1Co 8:6 that Creation was of God. That it is the will of God and God who authorized it to begin with. Not The Son

10. We see further confirmation in Hebrews 1:1-2 & Proverbs 30:4. Also take noticed who is credited
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

11. Also we Know God has no beginning or end however The Word is stated to be The Firstborn & Beginning of Creation.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

12. We have further confirmation that The same Word was in the beginning with God but no mention of prior to the beginning with God /
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
 
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And to hammer it home further; Never is their any emphasis to believe That the Word is God or more specifically our only true God which is The Lord our God who is one lord

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
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Matthew 15:8
“‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;
@Dave M
Very true. However pertaining to this information

Wisdom is my sister and Understanding my kinswoman.
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Proverbs 7:4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
 
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Further proof out of The Son mouth he is not God.

Luke 18: 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
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For those of discernment

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
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Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
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God always Good because changes not and Son not Good.
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The Son is only good because

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
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Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
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John 1:34 I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God."

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Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
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2a: to make a statement based on personal knowledge or belief : bear witness
b: to serve as evidence or proof
3: to express a personal conviction
transitive verb
1a: to bear witness to : ATTEST
b: to serve as evidence of : PROVE
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John 20:28
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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Three verses; Three separate Chapters and no context within the Chapters themselves given.:skeptic:
First is getting context within surrounded Chapter and Verses.
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1. Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Context:
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Joh 20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
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2. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Context:
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
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3. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Context:
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
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Also the entire Chapter of John Chapter 17 proves that you are not contextualizing those verses and using partiality and possibly doctrines of Men to form a narrative contrary to the word or volume of the book
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Ideally there should be no need for me to rehash what is already contained in another post.
Comprehensive post to I might add. All praises to the Heavenly Father:smile:
1. Hierarchy & Unity; 2.Beginning & End; & Discrediting Trinity; 3. John 1:1 Explanation; 4. One God; 5. Trinity Inception into Christianity.
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1. If you gave someone your authority they are you or representing you
2. You being in the image of God; if your household is under you and joined unto you then you are all one unit or family.
3. The Lord is one Lord; Our Lord is one Lord; Man is one Lord
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Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
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Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

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Rev 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
 
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