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Jesus in the flesh and the ascension

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There has been a lot of discussion about Jesus resurrection, if it the same for us and the order
of events.

After Jesus "came back to life" (I won't use the word resurrected here, yet... )

Jesus finally goes back to heaven to stay... (until the rapture or second coming)
in Acts 1:11; They also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven.”

But before that.. it seems that Jesus was "transfigured" right before the eyes of the apostles.
In Matt 17:1-5;

Matt 17:2; And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light.

In John 20:16-17; Jesus tells Mary Magdelene not to touch Him yet.

John 20:16; Jesus *said to her, “Mary!” She turned and *said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
John 20:17; Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”

This is the NASB version... "stop clinging" may indicate they she did indeed touch Jesus.

...and yet in the same chapter ( still in John 20 )
Jesus invites Thomas to touch Him. John 20:27;

John 20:25; So the other disciples were saying to him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
John 20:26; After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus *came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.”
John 20:27; Then He *said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
John 20:28; Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

In any case, even after Jesus was transfigured, He was still flesh. because in Matt 17:7; it says Jesus touched them. (In fact He touched many people after this time).

In Matt 28:8; it says that the disciples "took hold of is feet". This appears to be the same day that
the stone was rolled away and Mary Magdalene came to look for Him ( Matt 28:1-2; )

The gospel of Mark does not record anyone touching Jesus after He was risen.

In Luke 24:39; Jesus invites the disciples to touch Him as well.

So what happened between these verses?
 
As God's final High priest, Jesus followed the commandments given through Moses to the high priests of Israel. He had to remain purified, especially not being touched in any way by a woman, while possessing the blood of the sacrifice, into the Holiest place in the tabernacle. His assistant male priests had a limit as to how far they could go to get that earthly high priest to his final destination, and in perfect harmony with the law. No human was allowed between the altar and the ark of the covenant, accompanying the High priest. That applied to the earthly version, and the heavenly, which Jesus fulfilled. Jesus indeed fulfill the law in every way, even after death, though he was released from the curse of the law at death. Upon his resurrection he was only heir to the blessings of the law.

He did that for you, me, and all else who believe. Selah.....
 
There was only one resurrection, and there was only one ascension, and that only after 40 days of showing himself to his disciples.

Act 1:2 until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.
Act 1:3 He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God.

The "law" was fulfilled the moment Jesus died on the cross, not after he had entered into heaven to shed his blood on the mercy seat of God.

Mat 27:50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit.
Mat 27:51 And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. And the earth shook, and the rocks were split.

The splitting of the veal showed that the law had been fulfilled, and this before Jesus's ascension into Heaven.

Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

The was law was "finished" on the cross of Christ
 
The was law was "finished" on the cross of Christ

Well the penalty of it was.

Matt 5:17; "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Matt 5:18; "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Matt 5:19; "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Col 2:13; When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
Col 2:14; having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

He canceled out the debt of sin against us.
 
Well the penalty of it was.

Matt 5:17; "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Matt 5:18; "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Matt 5:19; "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Col 2:13; When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
Col 2:14; having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

He canceled out the debt of sin against us.

The "law" only has dominion over a man as long as he is alive. Once he dies the "law" has no more dominion over that person whether it is for penalty, or any other demands it might have made.

Rom 7:1 Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives?

Jesus was under no obligation to the law the minute he died on the cross.
 
There was only one resurrection, and there was only one ascension, and that only after 40 days of showing himself to his disciples.

Act 1:2 until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.
Act 1:3 He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God.

The "law" was fulfilled the moment Jesus died on the cross, not after he had entered into heaven to shed his blood on the mercy seat of God.

Mat 27:50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit.
Mat 27:51 And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. And the earth shook, and the rocks were split.

The splitting of the veal showed that the law had been fulfilled, and this before Jesus's ascension into Heaven.

Col 2:13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,
Col 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

The was law was "finished" on the cross of Christ

Consider the height, depth and width of John 17:4-5 (KJV)
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.


His earthly ministry work was finished before the cross. That was the end of his earthly work. On the cross he completed the work of redemption. So what would you say Jesus finished in the resurrection?
 
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