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Is Pro-World, Anti-Christ and a enemy of The Cross?

Loyal
(1 John 2).
14I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who is from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one. 15Do not love the world or anything in the world. Ifanyone loves the world, the love of theFather is not in him. 16For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world.…

"By their fruits you will know who they are, do they love the things in this world, and bear the pride of life?"
 
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(1 John 2).
14I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who is from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one. 15Do not love the world or anything in the world. Ifanyone loves the world, the love of theFather is not in him. 16For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world.…

"By their fruits you will know who they are, do they love the things in this world, and bear the pride of life?"
What is the question?
 
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is Pro-world and Anti-Christ the same thing? are they both a enemy
of The cross? according to the "Word of GOD"?

is that better... by reading some of your post, your answer would be yes.
Pro- world is not necessarily Anti-Christ is it if everyone celebrates Jesus birthday with pro- world gifts and commercialism right?

Why would we celebrate Jesus birthday with worldly goods? Isn't that a clue for many that this holiday is not of God?

Let's look to the scripture...

Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches. Psalm 73:12

but the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the Word, and it becometh unfruitful Mark 4:19

Charge those who are rich in this world that they be not haughty, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;1 Timothy 6:17

Now that last scripture is interesting. I guess you can be pro- world but keep your eyes on God with gratitude. I am not sure. God's double edged sword confuses me sometimes. I think they are different, they could be similar but different because I think the Anti-Christ is denying that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He came to earth as a man and died on the cross. I think that's how we are to test the spirits because satan will not admit this. He gets angry and we all know he is Antichrist. Then again anything that is not for Christ could be Antichrist essentially but they aren't THE Antichrist who will be a man possessed by satan himself who will rise to power when God pulls His hand from the earth and let's satan so his thing unchecked. The whole world will be unprotected by his evil and witchcraft and what a terrifying time that will be.
 
Loyal
Pro- world is not necessarily Anti-Christ is it if everyone celebrates Jesus birthday with pro- world gifts and commercialism right?

Why would we celebrate Jesus birthday with worldly goods? Isn't that a clue for many that this holiday is not of God?

Let's look to the scripture...

Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches. Psalm 73:12

but the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the Word, and it becometh unfruitful Mark 4:19

Charge those who are rich in this world that they be not haughty, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;1 Timothy 6:17

Now that last scripture is interesting. I guess you can be pro- world but keep your eyes on God with gratitude. I am not sure. God's double edged sword confuses me sometimes. I think they are different, they could be similar but different because I think the Anti-Christ is denying that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He came to earth as a man and died on the cross. I think that's how we are to test the spirits because satan will not admit this. He gets angry and we all know he is Antichrist. Then again anything that is not for Christ could be Antichrist essentially but they aren't THE Antichrist who will be a man possessed by satan himself who will rise to power when God pulls His hand from the earth and let's satan so his thing unchecked. The whole world will be unprotected by his evil and witchcraft and what a terrifying time that will be.
American Standard Version
Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of God.
John 15:19,23
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you…
John 17:14
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

New American Standard Bible
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

1 John 2:18
Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son.
2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, refusing to confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

The devil is a Deceiver, believe The Word of GOD and not people. The Anti-Christ is here. The devil wants you to think he is not!

Anti-Christ is clear as Daylight.

Stop listen to people and Believe "The Written Word" Then you will see.

The Anti-Christ is against whatever "The Word of GOD" says! Anti- Christ means Anti-WORD of GOD! Jesus Christ is "The WORD of GOD" wrap in Flesh, now in a Glorified Body But STILL 100% GOD and Still 100% WORD of GOD, Still 100% SON and Never Separated from The 100 % Father and The 100% Holy Spirit>. How can that be?
The same way a "Finite Mind" cannot Comprehend the Incomprehensible of a Infinite Being. Well how can this be, With men things are impossible, but with GOD All things are possible. There is only one GOD in Three persons. And they always been. and never separated but different and all three are in agreement and The Son of GOD Always Obey's HIS FATHER and Right now HE is Sitting on The Father's right Hand of The Throne. And waiting for The Father to give The Order!
 
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Loyal
Here's an example of a case where getting a bit of understanding of some Greek words can get you out of a tangle. The word translated 'world' is kosmos.


It's fundamental meaning is an 'ordered system'. By extension it also means the natural world. The New Testament writers often use it to refer to the way of the world that's not submitting to God ie, 'life is brutal and harsh, to survive and thrive i need to fight, lie, push for my rights, trample on others, accumulate as much as I can, no matter the cost to others.'

That is incompatible with the gospel and the way of Christ. So to love this is to hate God.

It does not mean that loving good things in this world - music, good food with good friends, walks in the snow - is wrong.

See also John 1 and John 3 for Jesus and the redemption of the kosmos.
 
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Here's an example of a case where getting a bit of understanding of some Greek words can get you out of a tangle. The word translated 'world' is kosmos.


It's fundamental meaning is an 'ordered system'. By extension it also means the natural world. The New Testament writers often use it to refer to the way of the world that's not submitting to God ie, 'life is brutal and harsh, to survive and thrive i need to fight, lie, push for my rights, trample on others, accumulate as much as I can, no matter the cost to others.'

That is incompatible with the gospel and the way of Christ. So to love this is to hate God.

It does not mean that loving good things in this world - music, good food with good friends, walks in the snow - is wrong.

See also John 1 and John 3 for Jesus and the redemption of the kosmos.
Well then you answered your own question. If you knew all that why did you ask?
 
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Well then you answered your own question. If you knew all that why did you ask?
Dear Sister,
I think you confused the author of this post with the author of the thread.
Brother Hekuran didn't ask any question.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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Loyal
Well then you answered your own question. If you knew all that why did you ask?
I am the Author of The Thread. The reasons for most of my "Threads," I like "new wine" just as well as "vintage wine" and sometimes I have a taste from others who Knows how to "press the grapes" better That I, and sometimes "New Wine is in New Wine Skins":p

"Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runs out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved."

And everynow and then I like to "squeeze the grape" that is hanging and abiding on the" Vine" And I do know how to handle The Grape and get the sweetness out of some grapes that The whole body can be-take. And we like to squeeze "Roses' on "TalkJesus" especially the ones who "Loves" Jesus! There is something unique about The Fragrance on "TalkJesus".:pensive: So beware of The "Vine Dressers"

" Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it, and built a tower. Then he rented it out to some tenants and went away on a journey. When the harvest time drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his share of the fruit.…"

Shalom

And You have a "Bless" Day In the Name of Our Lord and Savior , Jesus , The Christ, The Son of The Living GOD:pensive:
 
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I am the Author of The Thread. The reasons for most of my "Threads," I like "new wine" just as well as "vintage wine" and sometimes I have a taste from others who Knows how to "press the grapes" better That I, and sometimes "New Wine is in New Wine Skins":p

"Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runs out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved."

And everynow and then I like to "squeeze the grape" that is hanging and abiding on the" Vine" And I do know how to handle The Grape and get the sweetness out of some grapes that The whole body can be-take. And we like to squeeze "Roses' on "TalkJesus" especially the ones who "Loves" Jesus! There is something unique about The Fragrance on "TalkJesus".:pensive: So beware of The "Vine Dressers"

" Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it, and built a tower. Then he rented it out to some tenants and went away on a journey. When the harvest time drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his share of the fruit.…"

Shalom

And You have a "Bless" Day In the Name of Our Lord and Savior , Jesus , The Christ, The Son of The Living GOD:pensive:
Thank you. I sadly do not drink wine because I want to be as sober as possible but I love the living water!
 
Loyal
Thank you. I sadly do not drink wine because I want to be as sober as possible but I love the living water!
you know I am not talking about earthly wine! I don;t drink earthly wine either.:pensive: Heavenly wine will get you drunk too! drunk of The Spirit! You ought to try some sometime! ask those people over there in "The Acts of The Apostles" They will testify to the Truth! I have been so High Off The Spirit of GOD.I have stood before People at speaking engagement and could not speak! I have been so High off The Holy Ghost I have staggered like a drunk man, I have been so high off the Holy Ghost my eyes have become Blood shot red, and those who have stood beside me. Jesus has been in the Mist! I have been so High in The Spirit of GOD in My dreams that I would wake up and still HIGH in the Spirit of GOD, I have been so High In the Spirit of GOD it makes me scared Now, It frightens me! For all these years The anointing has become more heavier and Powerful strong it feels. It seems my body cannot take it anymore. It feels "Nuclear" going from glory to glory

New American Standard 1977
But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
New International Version
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
(2 Cor. 3)
18And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord,
who is the Spirit.

Every TRUE "Child of GOD" grows in this manner, that is why we live a life of obedience! Those who are a "enemy of The Cross" cannot grow in this type of Capacity. It is a life of Obedience that you grow in the "Anointing intensity" that many Christians do not understand. so they are not motivated to walk in the Sprirt, so in order that their walk in the Spirit becomes a natural walk for them without even trying to do so. For now The walk in the Spirit is a natural walk and The walk in The Flesh is a unnatural and uncomfortable walk now. So you go from Glory to Glory without trying, you just arrive at those points and cannot stop the growth, but wondering what are you turning into, but you know it is the image of "The Son of the Living GOD" who is sitting on the Right hand of The Father.

If you understood what i have just said. you have went beyond "meat".
 

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