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Invitation to Study Romans

Dear Brother Rjones,

I'm very happy to see you back. I will surely wait for you. As far as I'm concerned, I attended 2 interviews so far and I did not get selected. But I'm not worried because God is with me and He will give me what He wants. More over my parents are encouraging me and telling me that God will give me what is best for me.

By the way, I almost forgot! Happy Father's day Brother Rjones.

1 Peter 5 v 8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Job 1 v 7
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

sure convinces us just what he is doing although we know the lies he's capable of to God's people.
he is set out to devour us as that is the main aim of any roaring lion.
but, he is a defeated foe we must not forget that, Jesus saw to that at Calvary, and at His name he must flee.

isn't it great reassurance to have, and plead the blood of Christ over our daily life and over our brothers, sisters in Christ and our family and friends who don't as yet know Him, what a unsurmountable priviledge we have.

Brothers I get these wires taken out of my wrist this Friday then a plaster for 2 more weeks then its off to physio therapy for a while to gain strength back in it.
The pain was bad at the start but I can't complain, I've learned to adopt to using my left hand and at times my mouth to, thank you for your perservence with me not being able to concentrate to study with you's. I know I could never have gotten through so well without Jesus going on before me, praise His name.

Dear Sister Maureen,

I'm glad to hear from you. I pray that the Lord will heal your hand and make it whole once again because He still is the God who heals us.

God bless you. I will pray for you.
 
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I love Romans

Dear Brother Rjones,

I will join you in this study. We will study this book bit by bit, context by context and learn many things. Right now I'm busy with Labs and also there are tense moments at home. Please see the prayer request I asked for in the prayer request forum. We will start from chapter 1.

Please give me some time to prepare the notes and then post it.

God bless you.

I would love to join you in this lesson, please let me know when thank you glc
 
I would love to join you in this lesson, please let me know when thank you glc

Dear Sister,

Please do join the study. You can join now itself. By the way, the post which you quoted, I posted it in March. Alright no problem. I'm glad to see you here.

God bless you.
 
Thank you for this, I did not know this about the word 'God', I know I love the book, and it has been a blessing to me, more times then I can remember. So true, God Bless you my sister.
 
Praise the Lord! I finally have some time to post.
Here's my post for Romans 7:1-14.


Romans 7:1-3 Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

In Romans 6:14, Paul told us that sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. After the discussion in Romans 6:15-23 regarding practical implications of this, he now explains more completely how it is that we are no longer under the dominion of the law.

The law has dominion over a man as long as he lives: Paul makes the point that death ends all obligations and contracts. A wife is no longer bound to her husband if he dies because death ends that contract. If her husband dies, she is free from that law.

Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another; to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.

You also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ: In Romans 6:3-8, Paul carefully explained that we died with Jesus and we also rose with Him, although Paul there only spoke of our death to sin. Now he explains that we also died to the law.

Some might think, “Yes, we were saved by grace, but we must live by law to please God.” Here Paul makes it plain that believers are dead to the law as far as it represents a principle of living or a place of right standing before God.

“Believers are through with the law. It is not for them an option as a way of salvation. They do not seek to be right with God by obeying some form of law, as the adherents of almost all religions have done.” (Morris)

That you may be married to another: However, we are not free from the law so we can live unto ourselves; we are free so that we can be “married” to Jesus and so that we can bear fruit to God.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

When we were in the flesh: Under the law, we did not bear fruit to God. Instead we bore fruit to death, because the law aroused the passions of sins within us.

Paul will explain this problem of the law more fully in Romans 7:7-14. But now we see his point - that we only come fully to the place of bearing fruit for God when we are free from the law.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

But now we have been delivered from the law: The theme of Romans 7:1-5 is summarized. Because we died with Jesus at Calvary, we are dead to the law and delivered from its dominion over us as a principle of justification or of sanctification.

The law does not justify us; it does not make us right with God. The law does not sanctify us; it does not take us deeper with God and make us more holy before Him.

So that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit: Our freedom is given not so we can stop serving God; but so that we can serve Him better, under the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

How well do we serve in the newness of the Spirit? It is a shame that many serve sin or legalism with more devotion than those who should serve God out of the newness of the Spirit. It’s too bad when fear motivates us more than love.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

Is the law sin? If we follow his train of thought we can understand how someone could infer this. Paul insisted that we must die to the law if we will bear fruit to God. Someone must think, “Surely there is something wrong with the law!”

I would not have known sin except through the law: The law is like an x-ray machine; it reveals plainly what might have always been there, but was hidden before. You can’t blame an x-ray for what it exposes.

For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” The law sets the “speed limit” so we know exactly if we are going too fast. We might never know that we are sinning in many areas (such as covetousness) if the law did not spell this out to us specifically.

Romans 7:8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.

But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment: Paul describes the dynamic where the warning “don’t do that” may become a call to action because of our sinful, rebellious hearts. It isn’t the fault of the commandment, but it is our fault.

In his book Confessions, the great theologian of the ancient church Augustine described how this dynamic worked in his life as a young man: “There was a pear tree near our vineyard, laden with fruit. One stormy night we rascally youths set out to rob it and carry our spoils away. We took off a huge load of pears - not to feast upon ourselves, but to throw them to the pigs, though we ate just enough to have the pleasure of forbidden fruit. They were nice pears, but it was not the pears that my wretched soul coveted, for I had plenty better at home. I picked them simply in order to become a thief. The only feast I got was a feast of iniquity, and that I enjoyed to the full. What was it that I loved in the theft? Was it the pleasure of acting against the law? The desire to steal was awakened simply by the prohibition of stealing.”

In American history, we know that the Prohibition Act didn’t stop drinking. In many ways it made drinking more attractive to people, because of our desire to break boundaries set by the commandment.

Once God draws a boundary for us, we are immediately enticed to cross that boundary - which is no fault of God or His boundary, but the fault of our sinful hearts.

Sin, taking opportunity by the commandment: The weakness of the law isn’t in the law - it is in us. Our hearts are so wicked that they can find opportunity for all manner of evil desire from something good like the law of God.

“The word opportunity in the original is a military term meaning a base of operations. Prohibition furnishes a springboard from which sin is all too ready to take off.” (Harrison)

Apart from the law, sin was dead: This shows how great the evil of sin is - it can take something good and holy like the law and twist it to promote evil. Sin warps love into lust, an honest desire to provide into greed, and law into a promoter of sin.

Romans 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.

I was alive once without the law: Children can be innocent before they know or understand what law requires. This is what Paul refers to when he says I was alive once without the law.

But when the commandment came, sin revived and I died: But when we do know the law, the law shows us our guilt and it excites our rebellion, bringing forth more sin and death.

Romans 7:10-12 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death: Sin does this by deception. Sin deceives us:
Because sin falsely promises satisfaction
Because sin falsely claims an adequate excuse
Because sin falsely promises an escape from punishment

For sin . . . deceived me: It isn’t the law that deceives us, but it is sin that uses the law as an occasion for rebellion. This is why Jesus said you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free. (John 8:32) The truth makes us free from the deceptions of sin.

And by it killed me: Sin, when followed, leads to death - not life. One of Satan’s greatest deceptions is to get us to think of sin as something good that an unpleasant God wants to deprive us of. When God warns us away from sin, He warns us away from something that will kill us.

Therefore the law is holy: Paul understands how someone might take him as saying that he is against the law - but he isn’t at all. It is true that we must die to sin (Romans 6:2) and we must die to the law (Romans 7:4). But that should not be taken to say that Paul believes that sin and law are in the same basket. The problem is in us, not in the law. Nevertheless, sin corrupts the work or effect of the law, so we must die to both.

Romans 7:13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.

Sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good: Though the law provokes our sin nature, this can be used for good because it more dramatically exposes our deep sinfulness. After all, if sin can use something as good as the law to its advantage in promoting evil, it shows how evil sin is.

We need sin to appear sin, because it always wants to hide in us and conceal its true depths and strength. “This is one of the most deplorable results of sin. It injures us most by taking from us the capacity to know how much we are injured. It undermines the man’s constitution, and yet leads him to boast of unfailing health; it beggars him, and tells him he is rich; it strips him, and makes him glory in his fancied robes.” (Spurgeon)

“Those who preach only the Gospel to sinners, at best only heal the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly. The law, therefore, is the grand instrument in the hands of a faithful minister, to alarm and awaken sinners.” (Clarke)

So that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful: Sin “becomes more sinful” in light of the law in two ways. First, sin becomes exceedingly sinful through contrast with the law. Second, sin becomes exceedingly sinful because the law provokes its evil nature.

“Instead of being a dynamo that gives us power to overcome, the Law is a magnet that draws out of us all kinds of sin and corruption.” (Wiersbe)

Exceedingly sinful: “Why didn’t he say, ‘exceeding black,’ or ‘exceeding horrible,’ or ‘exceedingly deadly’? Why, because there is nothing in the world so bad as sin. When he wanted to use the very worst word he could find: to call sin by, he called it by its own name, and reiterated it: ‘sin,’ ‘exceeding sinful.’ ” (Spurgeon)

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

But I am carnal: The word carnal simply means “of the flesh.” Paul recognizes that a spiritual law cannot help a carnal man.

Carnal uses the ancient Greek word sarkikos, which means, “characterized by the flesh.” It speaks of the person who can and should do differently but does not. Paul sees this carnality in himself, and knows that the law, though it is spiritual, has no answer for his carnal nature.

Sold under sin: Paul is in bondage under sin and the law can’t help him out. He is like a man arrested for a crime and thrown in jail. The law will only help him if he is innocent, but Paul knows that he is guilty and that the law argues against him, not for him.

Luther on but I am carnal, sold under sin: “That is the proof of the spiritual and wise man. He knows that he is carnal, and he is displeased with himself; indeed, he hates himself and praises the Law of God, which he recognizes because he is spiritual. But the proof of a foolish, carnal man is this, that he regards himself as spiritual and is pleased with himself.”

God bless.
 
Dear Brother Rjones,

It is so nice to hear from you after a long time. As far as I'm concerned, last week, I got selected by Virtusa an American software company. I have the chance to come to USA. May be it will take 2 or 3 years. I will receive the placement orders next year probably in June. Now, I have to do a lot of work for my project before I complete my engineering.

As far as your post is concerned, I loved it. It is excellent. I want to give a reference to the text in the quote.

Some might think, “Yes, we were saved by grace, but we must live by law to please God.” Here Paul makes it plain that believers are dead to the law as far as it represents a principle of living or a place of right standing before God.

Well, perhaps Paul the apostle was talking about the same point to Peter and he corrected him publicly.

Galations 2:11-21:

Verse 11: But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him publicly, speaking strongly against what he was doing, for it was very wrong.

Verse 12: When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile Christians, who don’t bother with circumcision. But afterward, when some Jewish friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore because he was afraid of what these legalists would say.

Verse 13: Then the other Jewish Christians followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was influenced to join them in their hypocrisy.

Verse 14: When I saw that they were not following the truth of the Good News, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you trying to make these Gentiles obey the Jewish laws you abandoned?

Verse 15: You and I are Jews by birth, not ‘sinners’ like the Gentiles.

Verse 16: And yet we Jewish Christians know that we become right with God, not by doing what the law commands, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be accepted by God because of our faith in Christ—and not because we have obeyed the law. For no one will ever be saved by obeying the law.”

Verse 17: But what if we seek to be made right with God through faith in Christ and then find out that we are still sinners? Has Christ led us into sin? Of course not!

Verse 18: Rather, I make myself guilty if I rebuild the old system I already tore down.

Verse 19: For when I tried to keep the law, I realized I could never earn God’s approval. So I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ.

Verse 20: I myself no longer live, but Christ lives in me. So I live my life in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Verse 21: I am not one of those who treats the grace of God as meaningless. For if we could be saved by keeping the law, then there was no need for Christ to die.


This is all I want to share with you for now.

Brother Rjones, if you don't mind, could you please send me an add request to me on yahoo because, I will not get the chance to access the internet from next year often and I'll be missing you.

God bless you.
 
Well done Ritchie
doesn't God reward the faithful indeed.

I've just got my final plaster of my arm last Friday, so I have a month to get these fingers and wrist up and moving, before I'm hearded of to phsyio, the doctor advised me to diy as he refered to the physio's as terrorists, not very inviting.
It is so stiff it's as if it's a stick of wood attached to my elbow.
I had 2 operations, 2 k wires placed for 4 weeks, and Carpel Tunnel, which hasn't helped with the mobility of it recovering.

well enough of me moaning.

Sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the study, I like to write when I'm studying and I wasn't able, still can't really, not very well anyway.
Keep the good work going and pehaps by the 'next' one I'll be able enough to join in, God willing.
 
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