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Loyal
I saw this on another forum.. One that interests me big time. This was the question..

Do they naturally occur? Can they be opened by magic or tech? What about time portals? Or interplanetary portals? What do you think? Can you say why? Are you just scared to admit they exist? Or scared to talk about them? LOL No really. What do you think?
So I'll add to the question..."As Christians we already know that other worlds exist. Heaven....Hell.... Where do the fallen live? Well there is no answer to that one I think. But What do you think?

And believe it or not.....This question lines up with my new book. Nimrod was trying to open a portal...I think he succeeded. For a while.....
 
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1. Can they be opened by magic 2. or tech? 3. What about time portals?
So I'll add to the question..."As Christians we already know that other worlds exist. Heaven....Hell.... 4. Where do the fallen live? 5. Nimrod was trying to open a portal
1. No such thing as magic. Either God, angel, fallen angel or science.
2. This is interesting for me. Well not tech to open portals, but rather if tech will ever discover a spiritual realm. I believe it can and will if we had say another 1000 years on earth.
3. No such thing as time travel. No time in spiritual realm. Just events that come to pass. Time travel for humans is extending our lives beyond 100.
4. Waiting place. Hell / Sheol / Hades. Lake of fire is coming for all. Fallen angels are on earth. The worse of them are locked up in a prison in Hades.
5. I imagine writing sci fi takes lots of imagination :smile:.
 
Loyal
1. No such thing as magic. Either God, angel, fallen angel or science.
2. This is interesting for me. Well not tech to open portals, but rather if tech will ever discover a spiritual realm. I believe it can and will if we had say another 1000 years on earth.
3. No such thing as time travel. No time in spiritual realm. Just events that come to pass. Time travel for humans is extending our lives beyond 100.
4. Waiting place. Hell / Sheol / Hades. Lake of fire is coming for all. Fallen angels are on earth. The worse of them are locked up in a prison in Hades.
5. I imagine writing sci fi takes lots of imagination :smile:.


1 Magic is definitely real. Pure evil to all my knowledge, but real nonetheless. Nimrod used dark magic and became Gibborim.

Genesis 41:8
In the morning he found himself so upset that he summoned all the magicians of Egypt and all its wise men. Pharaoh told them his dreams, but no one there could interpret them for him.

Genesis 41:24
And the thin ears swallowed up the seven ripe ears. I told this to the magicians, but none of them could explain it to me.”

Exodus 7:11
But Pharaoh in turn called for the sages and sorcerers; and they too, the magicians of Egypt, did the same thing, making use of their secret arts.

Exodus 7:22
But the magicians of Egypt did the same with their secret arts, so that Pharaoh was made hardhearted and didn’t listen to them, as Adonai had said would happen.

Exodus 8:3
But the magicians did the same with their secret arts and brought up frogs onto the land of Egypt.

Exodus 8:14
The magicians tried with their secret arts to produce lice, but they couldn’t. There were lice on people and animals.

Exodus 8:15
Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, “This is the finger of God.” But Pharaoh was made hardhearted, so that he didn’t listen to them, just as Adonai had said would happen.

Exodus 9:11
The magicians couldn’t even stand in Moshe’s presence because of the sores, which were on them as well as on the other Egyptians.

Numbers 23:23
thus one can’t put a spell on Ya‘akov, no magic will work against Isra’el. It can now be said of Ya‘akov and Isra’el, ‘What is this that God has done?!’

2 Kings 17:17
They had their sons and daughters pass through fire [as a sacrifice]. They used divination and magic spells. And they gave themselves over to do what was evil from Adonai’s perspective, thereby provoking him;

Isaiah 3:3
captains of fifty, men of rank and advisers, skillful magicians and expert enchanters.

Jeremiah 27:9

“‘“You, therefore, don’t listen to your prophets, diviners, dreamers, magicians or sorcerers, when they tell you that you won’t be subject to the king of Bavel;

Ezekiel 13:18
tell them that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Woe to the women who sew magic pads for all arm joints and put veils over people of all sizes, in order to hunt human lives! Will you hunt down the lives of my people while you keep your own lives safe?

Daniel 1:20
and in all matters requiring wisdom and understanding, whenever the king consulted them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and exorcists in his entire kingdom.

Daniel 2:2
So the king ordered the magicians, exorcists, sorcerers and astrologers summoned to interpret the king’s dreams to him. They came and stood in his presence.

Daniel 2:10
The astrologers answered the king, “Your majesty, nobody in the world can do this! Never has a king, no matter how great and powerful, asked such a thing of any magician or exorcist or astrologer.

Daniel 2:27
Dani’el answered the king, “No sage, exorcist, magician or astrologer can tell his majesty the secret he has asked about.

Daniel 4:4
When the magicians, exorcists, astrologers and diviners came, I told them the dream; but they couldn’t interpret it for me.

Daniel 4:6
‘Belt’shatzar, chief of the magicians! Because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you, and no mystery is too difficult for you, tell me the meaning of the visions I saw in my dream.

Daniel 5:11
There is a man in your kingdom in whom is the spirit of the holy gods. In the days of your father, he was found to have light, discernment and wisdom like the wisdom of the gods. King N’vukhadnetzar your father — the king, your father — made him chief of the magicians, exorcists, astrologers and diviners;

Acts 8:9
But there was a man named Shim‘on in the city who for some time had been practicing magic and astonishing the nation of Shomron, claiming to be somebody great.

Acts 8:11
They followed him because for a considerable time he had amazed them with his magic.

Revelation 18:23
the light of a lamp will never again shine in you, the voice of bridegroom and bride will never again be heard in you. “For your businessmen were the most powerful on earth, all the nations were deceived by your magic spell.

2 Using Tech to open portals. CERN for one, has apparently done that at least once but no. Not to spirit worlds.

The fallen have done that as well. I forget where I found that. I'll give it to you later.

3 No such thing as time travel. I can refute that too. If you will accept that the prophets saw the future. Daniel, Ezekiel....How did they see it? Ezekiel describes what could easily be a craft. He describes the effect of high acceleration and what he saw after that.
Ezekiel 1
4 I looked and saw a windy storm approaching from the north and a huge cloud with flashing fire, glowing brightly all around with the color of gleaming amber from within the fire. 5 Inside, there appeared to be four living creatures that looked like human beings; 6 but each one had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight, with feet like calves’ hoofs. They glittered like burnished bronze. 8 Beneath their wings they had human hands on their four sides. The four of them had faces and wings as follows: 9 they touched one another with their wings; they did not turn when they moved, but each one moved straight forward; 10 as for the appearance of their faces, they had human faces [in front], each of the four had a lion’s face on the right, each of the four had a bull’s face on the left, and each of the four had an eagle’s face [toward the rear] — 11 thus their faces. As for their wings, each had two that stretched upward and joined those of others, and two more that covered their bodies. 12 Each [living creature] moved in the direction of any of its faces; in whichever direction the spirit wanted to go, they went, without turning as they moved — 13 thus the appearance of the living creatures.

With them was something that looked like fiery coals burning the way torches do, with the fire flashing here and there between the living creatures; the fire had a brilliance, and out of the fire went lightning. 14 The living creatures kept speeding here and there like flashes of lightning.

15 As I gazed at the living creatures, I saw wheels on the ground, one next to each of the four-faced living creatures. 16 All four wheels looked the same: their inner parts gleamed like beryl, and their structure seemed to be that of a wheel inside a wheel. 17 When they moved, they could go in any of the four directions without turning as they moved. 18 Their rims were tall and fearsome, because the rims of all four were full of eyes all around. 19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels moved along with them; and when the creatures were lifted off the ground, the wheels went with them. 20 Wherever the spirit was to go, they went, in the direction the spirit wanted to go. The wheels were lifted up next to them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When [the living creatures] moved, [the wheels] moved; when the former stood still, the latter stood still; and when the former were lifted off the ground, the wheels were lifted up next to them; because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.


22 Over the heads of the living creatures was what appeared to be a dome glittering like ice; it was awesome, spread out over their heads, above them. 23 Under the dome each had a pair of wings spread out straight toward those of others, and each had a pair which covered his body. 24 I heard the sound of their wings when they moved; it was like the sound of rushing water, like the voice of Shaddai, like the noise of a tumultuous crowd or army. When they stopped, they lowered their wings. 25 Whenever there was a sound from above the dome over their heads, they stopped and lowered their wings.


26 Above the dome that was over their heads was something like a throne that looked like a sapphire. On it, above it, was what appeared to be a person. 27 I saw what looked like gleaming, amber-colored fire radiating from what appeared to be his waist upward. Downward from what appeared to be his waist, I saw what looked like fire, giving a brilliant light all around him. 28 This brilliance around him looked like a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day. This was how the appearance of the glory of Adonai looked. When I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of someone speaking.

Look at the bolded part...Could that not describe a ship?

In chapter 3
and I heard behind me a very loud sound — blessed be the glory of Adonai from his place! 13 It was the sound of the wings of the living creatures as they beat against each other, and the sound of the wheels next to them, a very loud sound. 14 So a spirit lifted me up and took me away. I went in bitterness and the heat of my spirit, with the hand of Adonai strong on me.

15 I went to the exiles who were living in Tel-Aviv, by the K’var River and stayed with them there in a stupefied state for seven days. 16 After seven days the word of Adonai came to me:

Ezekiel traveled 430 miles in seconds. (I mapped it)

I'll leave that right here for now.

4 You are right about hades...But where is it? Its inside the Earth as you say. So lets call the other world the lake of fire. Where is it? It's another world. Hades is too for that matter yet the bible talks about the gates of hell. Gates or portals, its the same thing. The bible talks of the portals of heaven too.
Psalm 78:23
So he commanded the skies above and opened the doors of heaven.
Matthew 16:18
I also tell you this: you are Kefa,” [which means ‘Rock,’] “and on this rock I will build my Community, and the gates of Sh’ol will not overcome it.

So there are portals to other worlds here. Heaven and hell. Two other worlds. Could there be more? Maybe.

5 But it is a lot of fun too. And a lot of work....Research, contemplation, rationalization supposition All of the above. Am I right in my assertions? Maybe, maybe not but what I'm learning seems to back it up. I also use the work of other researchers, not just mine.

Right or wrong its a lot of fun to speculate.
 
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I saw this on another forum.. One that interests me big time. This was the question..

Do they naturally occur? Can they be opened by magic or tech? What about time portals? Or interplanetary portals? What do you think? Can you say why? Are you just scared to admit they exist? Or scared to talk about them? LOL No really. What do you think?
So I'll add to the question..."As Christians we already know that other worlds exist. Heaven....Hell.... Where do the fallen live? Well there is no answer to that one I think. But What do you think?

And believe it or not.....This question lines up with my new book. Nimrod was trying to open a portal...I think he succeeded. For a while.....
Haha well without really knowing what you getting at..this is what I think.

Yes they definitely do exist as Jesus said he is the door. Also, we saints are given the keys to the kingdom.
The fallen obviously live below in hell where the gates cannot prevail against the church.

In revelation there are several references to doors. Jesus knocks at the door, there are open doors that no man can shut. There are twelve gates in the holy city, and each gate has an angel.
 
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1 Magic is definitely real. Pure evil to all my knowledge, but real nonetheless. Nimrod used dark magic and became Gibborim.
Magic defined as 'us' having superpowers does not exist. These magicians in scripture had fallen angels or advanced science on their side.

3 No such thing as time travel. I can refute that too. If you will accept that the prophets saw the future. Daniel, Ezekiel....How did they see it? Ezekiel describes what could easily be a craft. He describes the effect of high acceleration and what he saw after that.
Seeing the future is not time travel. I do believe there are 'fast vehicles' in heaven. Jesus comes on a horse. Angels ride chariots of sort.

I will also debate that God does not know the future. He knows what He has planned. This He can show us. He also knows that if person X continues as he does, he will likely do Y and Z.

You are right about hades...But where is it? Its inside the Earth as you say. So lets call the other world the lake of fire. Where is it? It's another world. Hades is too for that matter yet the bible talks about the gates of hell. Gates or portals, its the same thing. The bible talks of the portals of heaven too. So there are portals to other worlds here. Heaven and hell. Two other worlds. Could there be more? Maybe.
Interesting points on 'gates', I can agree with that. As for other worlds, we can't put God in a box. But as for intelligent life forms on these worlds, highly unlikely.

5 But it is a lot of fun too. And a lot of work....Research, contemplation, rationalization supposition All of the above. Am I right in my assertions? Maybe, maybe not but what I'm learning seems to back it up. I also use the work of other researchers, not just mine.

Right or wrong its a lot of fun to speculate.
I love rationalization and speculation. The Holy Spirit gives us glimpses of what is to come because He wants us to dream / get excited and speculate.
 
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Time travel..not sure about this, or how it works but we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. Eternity means there is a new dimension beyond time.

As for magic, you do not want to be messing with anything from below or sorcery which is a bunch of lies and illusions from fallen angels. Trust in God for miracles that are greater than anything a sorcerer thinks they can achieve.

Our world is framed by God and its He that sets the boundaries in place. There are places reserved for us in heaven that we can only see glimpses of in visions but thats all part of His plan, to reveal to us at the right time.
 
Loyal
As to magic....The bible talks about someone using magic spells...Spells are made with Words....I've often said that words have power...And we also know that everything God has given us, Satan has counterfeited. So, If we have the ability and authority to speak that which is not as though it were, Satan's counterfeit must be casting spells. We can curse someone or something by speaking contrary to the Word. For example. You go into a skid in your car, and someone screams "OH We're all going to die!" Is a curse...magic.
 
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Well I do think we are accountable for every idle word we utter and yea words can be used to hurt people. But i think magic, sorcery and divination involves more than just words people do invoke or comjuring lying spirits you just do not want to go there.
 
Loyal
Well I do think we are accountable for every idle word we utter and yea words can be used to hurt people. But i think magic, sorcery and divination involves more than just words people do invoke or comjuring lying spirits you just do not want to go there.
LOL Do you know this? Or do you just hope this?
 
Active
Its in the bible. Why would I hope this, what do you mean. Jesus is the door, we cannot enter heaven any other way.
 
Active
Well, Jesus said he is the door, but I suppose if you reading a klingon translation of the Bible it could be a portal.
 
Loyal
Jesus said, "my Kingdom is NOT of this world......"(John 18:36) Jesus also said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one can come unto the Father except by me" (John 14:6) The word "way" means "highway". When God says "...come boldly to the throne of grace..." (Hebrews 4:16) our two feet can not get us there, because it is not of this world, but in another world. Jesus is the only "highway" that we can use use to come before the Fathers throne of grace. When the Bible says to "walk" in the Spirit, the word "walk" means " to tread around, to walk at large, to deport ones self"
 
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Tell them about Jesus. They don't need to go through other ways. Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

Their gods tells them the wrong thing, sad to say. Also, anyone who truly believes can ask Jesus they don't need to go through all this ritual, smoke, chant, drink or take mushrooms.
 
Loyal
A door or a portal is also a "way" isn't it? In the case of Jesus, it is THE Way:

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Until Jesus the Way into the Tree of Life was kept solidly with no way in, but Jesus became our Door or our Portal. Note that Jesus, the Word, is also the sword which kept the Way closed, but now is the Way in...
 
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