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If you are sleeping with your Boyfriend it is a good chance That 99.99 %, you are Definitely going to HELL, and you can ask JESUS, HE will not lie.

Loyal
That is right, ASK JESUS for HE will not lie, Like your friends. For HE is The ONE that wrote the RULE Book! " Before Abraham was I AM", You better check the record. YOU Better check it for yourself. Just because "Pastor' Givemore is doing it, And 1st. lady "Look Good" is doing it TOO. If they are, sleeping and "CAT" walking. 99.99%,,,,,,they might be going to HELL TOO!:eyes: .........I don't care how good they look, or how good they smell, It is not worth it. neither is it worth to take The Chance:pensive: I will do it today and "REPENT" Tomorrow, Please do not act like a FOOL! For GOD ain't no Fool!

English Standard Version
For he says, “In a favorable time I listened to you, and in a day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the favorable time; behold, now is the day of salvation.'

DO YOU
BELIEVE THIS?:eyes: READ IT BELOW, OUT LOUD!

NASB 1995 (HEBREWS 13)
Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

King James Bible
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Deuteronomy 22:22
If a man is found lying with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

New King James Version
He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

New American Standard Bible
The one who rejects Me and does not accept My teachings has one who judges him: the word which I spoke. That will judge him on the last day.


John 8:47
Whoever belongs to God, hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear, is that you do not belong to God." [AND You are GOING to HELL!]

"FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH":pensive:

YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE, You have been serve! You Have Been warn.:pensive:....I don't care if you are 21 or 99.
"There is no respect of Persons with GOD"

You Better "REPENT" Now, even the Thoughts you had! And Your Deceptive PlANNINGS ! "LORD keep me From
"PRESUMPTUOUS" SINS.!
'HELP ME "LORD" TO DO THY WILL, KEEP MY FEET FROM STRAYING.' HELP ME TO KEEP THY WORD. HELP ME, FROM STRAYING AWAY.:pensive:
 
Loyal
We are all born into a time slot brother, every generation in every country is at a different stage, we are influenced by the circumstances that are taken for granted in that time slot, every generation the same.

Abortion in the past would have never been accepted, look at it today.

Living with someone and not being married was never accepted, they are living in sin was the call, it happened but was not accepted.

Putting others before ourselves, saying please and thank you and being polite and cautious, it was the accepted norm, now it is putting self first and expecting everything for nothing.

How the world has changed since 1948, accelerating from the early 1960's to what we see today.

The TV used to be the polite friend in the corner of the room, now it is but an obscene, filthy, sinful, sexually orientated, drama queen, where all forms of sin are pushed at people and accepted, many do not know where the off button is.

When I was younger, I had chips with fish, now they are in computers. A mouse was a rodent, a hard drive was through a mountainous pass. A bit on the side was a salad bowl next to a meal. [I wasn't innocent, to the contrary, I was a heartless rat, I was born into a time slot, I accepted what the world did, I was not born again until the late 1980's]

When I was younger, woman were more respectable, most kept their mouths shut, not all, most wanted to be women, not like men, now they want to do the same as men, many argue they are better than men, many are argumentative, loud mouthed, opinionated, self centred. Women used to wear clothing that covered their bodies, from the 1950's dresses were below the knees, from the 1960's above the knee, half way up the upper leg until they became little more than wide belts. Ever time slot we drop into, are born into, people accept life at that time as norm all across the world it is the same. Look at what kids are born into today, abortion accepted and expected, same sex partners accepted and expected, porn, swearing, etc, etc, accepted and expected, these sins and more have grown like a cancer to what we see today, those born into it are schooled through, it is law, it is acceptable today.

God's wrath is rarely preached these days, God is love is the in statement. Fear God is not preached today, God is love is the todays theme. In fact it is only when we seriously look at all these changes we see clearly, everything God says is right and good for us, the world does the opposite. Sin, sin, sin, the world says it's ok, white lies or fibs, or as many celebrities have been heard saying 'this is what our generation does'! Basically this is what we do in this time slot we were born into, they know no different, they see no wrong, they are taught the law says it is ok!

Thank God for scripture, thank God for prophesy, thank God for Jesus, thank God for The Word.

The Wages of SIN is Death, they have ears but do not hear, they have eyes but see what they want to see, they are born into a time slot, they do not know that the wages of sin is DEATH!
 
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In reply to Ploughboy's posting yesterday at 12:29 am
Pray to God the Father in Jesus's name. Jesus said that to pray to the Father in his (Jesus's) name. God the Father, Jesus the Only Begotten Son & the Holy Spirit will communicate to you what the answer is. I would say REPENT of the sin against the body, ask Jesus's forgiveness, and then ask the Father in Jesus's help to stop this behavior that you don't want to do. St. Paul said, 'I do what I don't want to and that I don't do what I want. It is not me that sins but the evil inside me.' Even when we ask for HELP, we still can't keep up our end so pray to God the Father in Jesus's name to take the 'sin of Lust' from you and to keep you from these sexual sins and thoughts, memories, etc. The Lord desires mercy and not sacrifice. Hope this helps you. Lust is of the Devil and Love is of God!
 
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If you are sleeping with your Boyfriend it is a good chance That 99.99 %, you are Definitely going to HELL
Of course if you're a Human, there's a better than even chance you're going to HELL anyway, and sleeping with one's boyfriend isn't really isn't a "determining factor".

That's determined by whether or not you're "Born Again" of the Holy Spirit, and cleansed of your SIN.
 
Loyal
Of course if you're a Human, there's a better than even chance you're going to HELL anyway, and sleeping with one's boyfriend isn't really isn't a "determining factor".

That's determined by whether or not you're "Born Again" of the Holy Spirit, and cleansed of your SIN.
Yes i understand, but why act like a "Fool" and IGNORE The WORD of GOD?

English Standard Version
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.

King James Bible [This is Written to "Believers" in Christ and not to people who do not Believe!]
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

American Standard Version
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as becometh saints;

New American Standard Bible
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

Luke 6:46
Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' but not do what I say?

JESUS did Not Die A VIOLENT and HORRIBLE DEATH so ThAT PERSON can practice "ANTINOMIANISM" !

BE Not FOOLED, "GOD IS NOT MOCK" THE FATHER did Not SEND HIS SON down here, so you can do as you please. And dabble in filth! Die in such a way for you to waddle round as you please! The ALMIGHTY GOD subject HIS ONLY Begotten SON to be Humiliated by HIS own Creation and Suffered such pain and Despair. For a piece of DIRT!

It is a lot more COMPLICATED, than the words that have rolled off of your lips! And You do not Even Know it! OR seem to CARE.

Just Look at what you said:
"That's determined by whether or not you're "Born Again" of the Holy Spirit, and cleansed of your SIN."

YOu do not even CARE! What GOD The FATHER has DONE! You have your chest all stuck out, LIKE you HAVE done something. that you deserve to be saved and "GOD" the FATHER GOT to SAVE YOU! Because something JESUS has DONE! For I see YOu neither Know THE FATHER or The SON. :pensive:

Be Not deceive, GOD THE FATHER is Not MOCK.



American Standard Version
Let marriage be had in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: for fornicators and adulterers GOD....[THE FATHER] .....will Judge.:eyes:


JESUS Said:

New American Standard Bible
But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed someone, has the power to throw that person into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!

And HE is not talking or writing to unbelievers:eyes:

For JESUS said: My Father is Greater Than I.

You better read in between the lines. There will not be a second chance. You will have all "ETERNITY" to think about, what you done:eyes: You better Think.
 
Loyal
Of course if you're a Human, there's a better than even chance you're going to HELL anyway, and sleeping with one's boyfriend isn't really isn't a "determining factor".

That's determined by whether or not you're "Born Again" of the Holy Spirit, and cleansed of your SIN.

A born again person is not going to be having sex out side of marriage. they will be changed.


here is a list of things we easily see if we are doing such things that we are not born again. sleeping with your boyfreind or girlfreind would fall under sexually immoral

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
 
Loyal
A lot of people Do have sex outside of marriage. We all have hormones and -- at times -- there Will be a temptation for couples who really want to be together To 'be together'. THAT is not going to send a person to hell.
Rejecting the salvation that God has provided through Jesus Christ Will.

There Are born again believers who Do give in to sexual temptation -- God created us with the desire to be sexual with the opposite sex. He's also given us guidelines as to 'with whom and when'.

The 1 Corinthians 6 passage -- the list of activities that will keep a person out of the Kingdom Of God. A life-style of those things -- definitely, yes. If a person finds themselves doing any of those things then there is something definitely off-base.

I'm going to use myself as an 'example' of sorts. I'm an older adult -- married most of my adult life and now single. How would I react if someone of the opposite sex -- someone from church because that's really the only place I go. If a relationship Would present itself. How Would I respond. I would Hope that 'we' would be on the same page in these areas. I would want to be Talking about important aspect of life. I'm Hoping that we'd put Biblical guidelines ahead of personal chemistry/ desire. How much friendliness To allow.

Many years ago -- there was a young couple who'd just gotten engaged. A couple of weeks later, she'd been arrested for shop-lifting. It was quite a shocker to everyone. It was in the local paper. So -- what Does the guy Do. She was a decent-looking young lady. Depending on Her attitude towards being caught and arrested. Either break off the engagement OR go with her to get whatever help she needed. Shop-lifting indicates a problem. Why is she doing it. How important is that other person To you. How much do you care about that other person.

Sometimes when there is a lot of 'chemistry' between people -- a guy / young lady -- there can be a tendency to over-look 'stuff'. So - they get married -- in Spite of -- crimes are committed and the spouse ends up in jail / prison. Are they going to divorce? are they going to be a faithful spouse in spite of.

There are times when the Obvious response isn't always the one expected to be received.

Also -- many years ago -- there was a couple who'd graduated from Bible college -- he felt led into an evangelistic ministry. They would go to various churches preaching / teaching. After a while, the wife was picking up on attitudes her husband was showing towards various church secretaries. He was approaching the various church secretaries with obvious needed planning, etc. and ended up having affairs. She ended up divorcing him and he obviously left in disgrace.

Another situation all those decades ago -- there was a young lady at college -- she'd spent some months in a mental hospital as the result of an emotional break down. The church she'd gone to had a young couple come as youth pastor and wife. The youth pastor and this young lady -- well -- she was very attractive and kind of laid-back. Apparently he'd befriended her -- bad decision. Ignored a boundary. They got caught -- at the church. The young lady had an emotional break-down and the youth pastor and wife left.

Satan is out to destroy believers / churches. Sometimes Non-believers have higher moral standards than others. Maybe it's a good-works' attitude. And , maybe, in todays Society -- no one takes Biblical morality seriously.
 
Loyal
A born again person is not going to be having sex out side of marriage. they will be changed.


here is a list of things we easily see if we are doing such things that we are not born again. sleeping with your boyfreind or girlfreind would fall under sexually immoral

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
YES THEY WILL SIN! That is why the Bible says: FLEE, and It says do not go Near "Her" house! For all of the children of GOD will be Tempted. Jesus was tempted. And you will be too. And some will stumble and fall, and some will waddle in the mud and convince others to do the same. But Let me tell you, "Child of GOD", you are going to pay a price, You will be JUDGE and it will not be Pretty.:pensive: I don't care if it is on your DEATH BED! If you have lead someone astray, and if you have not warn the wicked that the righteous does not "Practice SIN" and The "WAGES of SIN" is DEATH!

And those who claims that they need a boyfriend or a girlfriend, they are LIARS! The only thing they need is "The HOLINESS in JESUS The Anointed ONE"

All things are lawful for me; but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful for me; but I will not be brought under the power of any. ..Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall bring to nought both it and them. BUT THE BODY IS NOT FOR FORNICATION, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body: and God both raised the Lord, and will raise up as through his power. Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? shall I then take away the members of Christ, and MAKE THEM MEMBERS OF A HARLOT? GOD FORBID. Or know ye not that he that is joined to a harlot is one body? for, The twain, saith HE, shall become one flesh. BUT HE that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
The Body is a Temple of the Holy Spirit
(Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 3:16-18)

"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own [soul] body. ...Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own; ...for ye were bought with a price: glorify God therefore in your body." [soul]

A whole Lot of Pastors are sleeping with Their "Parishioners" other men wives, and Mothers of children, Teenagers both boys and Girls! KNOWN FACT! And they are "ALL GULITY" both the young and the OLD! The Men and The WOMEN! And Don't get upset, I am not talking about your Church! But those churches that "Practice" such unHOLY things. They are having sex with the old and the young. And GOD is GOING to dish Out "JUSTICE"! Since so many want "JUSTICE" in This world, GOD THE FATHER IS Going to Give it! "For The Wages of SIN is DEATH"! is "JUSTICE"

And GOD the FATHER Will JUDGE!

New King James Version (1 Peter 4)
"For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those WHO DO NOT OBEY the gospel of GOD?"

Slaughter of the Idolaters (Ezekiel 9)
"And as I listened, He said to the others, “Follow him through the city and start killing; do not show pity or spare anyone! ...Slaughter the old men, the young men and maidens, the women and children; but do not go near anyone who HAS THE MARK. Now begin at My sanctuary.”So they began with the elders who were before the temple."Then He told them, “Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go forth!” So they went out and began killing throughout the city.
While they were killing, I was left alone. And I fell facedown and cried out, “Oh, Lord GOD,....etc


JESUS, Came down here to save us From "THE WRATH OF The ALMIGHTY GOD" and many are not listening, and it is getting late in "The DAY"!

"THE DAY OF THE LORD" Will not be Pretty:pensive:

The Day of the LORD (AMOS 5)
"There will be wailing in all the vineyards, for I will pass through your midst,” says the LORD. ....Woe to you who long for the Day of the LORD !What will the Day of the LORD be for you? It will be darkness and not light. ...It will be like a man who flees from a lion, only to encounter a bear, or who enters his house and rests his hand against the wall, only to be bitten by a "VIPER".…"


"REPENT", CHRISTIAN,,,,," REPENT" ATHEIST, 'REPENT' "IDOL WORSHIPPERS" Turn around and Go back the other way! Without HOLINESS, No man shall see GOD!


DO IT NOW! Get DOWN on YOUR KNEES and tell GOD, To Help you,,,, if You cannot Turn by yourself and Tell Him To TURN YOU, No matter what it TAKES, Turn me Around LORD! TURN ME GOD! Please TURN ME Around.:pensive: Please help me LORD to see THE LIGHT!:pensive: TURN me JESUS!
 
Loyal
In reply to Ploughboy's posting yesterday at 12:29 am
Pray to God the Father in Jesus's name. Jesus said that to pray to the Father in his (Jesus's) name. God the Father, Jesus the Only Begotten Son & the Holy Spirit will communicate to you what the answer is. I would say REPENT of the sin against the body, ask Jesus's forgiveness, and then ask the Father in Jesus's help to stop this behavior that you don't want to do. St. Paul said, 'I do what I don't want to and that I don't do what I want. It is not me that sins but the evil inside me.' Even when we ask for HELP, we still can't keep up our end so pray to God the Father in Jesus's name to take the 'sin of Lust' from you and to keep you from these sexual sins and thoughts, memories, etc. The Lord desires mercy and not sacrifice. Hope this helps you. Lust is of the Devil and Love is of God!
And I will say this "NO man can come to JESUS unless THE FATHER DRAWS that PERSON TO "JESUS" You cannot even come to JESUS unless you are drawn by GOD the FATHER. Then after you have come to JESUS, then you go to the FATHER in JESUS name. You can called upon Jesus all night and through out the years, ain't going to mean nothing unless The FATHER DRAWS you to Him. And then and only then will you become a child of God and then you can go to the Father in the name of JESUS! Only a True Child of GOD can call on the Father in The name of JESUS! But mankind has his own route. And God Has His route. Now you choose if you can.

Jesus Said: (JOHN 6)BSB
"Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus replied. “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:39
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.
John 6:40
For it is My Father's will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:65
Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."

And this is not a "paradox"

And when you have finally come to JESUS, Then listen and read the instructions that JESUS will give you. Then HE will guide you, for He now, will be YOUR "SHEPHERD" and you need no other.

"The LORD is MY Shepherd and He is all i need" :pensive: and He
MAKES me to lie down in Green Pastures:pensive: and HE leads me by The Still Waters., for HE restores my SOUL,
HE leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake....ff


I am saying this because , who wants to "fumble" at the Goal line.:pensive: After carrying the ball for 80 yards and stumble and fumble the ball right before The Goal line. And at the same time "Penalize" 10 yards.:pensive: And facing A Powerful Goal Line, a Veteran Defense Team.:pensive: 4th and Goal


PS. So we are saying, do your best, even if you have to do the "Flea Flicker"! When you are lost, you get confused. And He knows that.
 
Loyal
@PloughBoy -- I clicked into the article -- it's simply another Forum like Talk Jesus

If you've ever noticed, there's a lot of 'interesting' concepts shared on This forum.

There were some good responses shared on that other forum.
 
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It is not the forum, it was the content in that forum that deals with this topic.
@PloughBoy -- I clicked into the article -- it's simply another Forum like Talk Jesus
If you've ever noticed, there's a lot of 'interesting' concepts shared on This forum.

There were some good responses shared on that other forum.
 
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Please forgive me. I was not trying to steer others away from this site, I was just letting anyone see other points of view concerning this topic
 
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Why would a "Child of The Living GOD" go to a "Corrupted" creature for any kind of information pertaining to "love & Sex"? That is a question.
My mother did not raise a "Fool":eyes:
The terms "love" and "sex" exists in the English language. If you want to pretend that these two terms do not exist then go for it, pretend away, neither are offensive.
 
Loyal
For many think that the love pertaining to man and women in GOD's WORD referring to man and wife is a emotion love that draws two persons together, not so. That emotional love that draws one together in our culture is "westernization" not Biblical, not meaning it is wrong. But paganistic worldly. That is why when "lust' runs dull, eyes begin to roam. And hearts fluttering for other evil hearts. And IF that Person is Not "BORN of GOD" and that person does not fear GOD or the fear of GOD is NOT in that person. And that person is a child of the Devil the works of the devil that child will do. Unless by the mercies of GOD a miracle! That person does not stray in any form but is lead away by an unseen force, that he or she may learn. And in the BIBLE there are examples of marriages, of great men in the BIBLE, Their Marriages was not by love, but assignments.

1. God picked Eve for Adam
2. Men picked any woman they wanted
3. Abraham most likely did not pick his sister SARAH
4. Isaac did not pick his wife
5. Jacob did not pick Leah but he wanted Rachel he got her, But who is JESUS Great MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER? LEAH! Judah's mother.:pensive:
6. AND WHO pick David's legal wife. 1st. wife, Micah.
7. etc.....................ff

The love of GOD in marriage is doing what is right and doing them no harm all the days of your life. denying yourself and the wife is a "HELP MEET" not a "LOVE NEST" ! And you give that person a reason to not be jealous of any man. Westernization marriages, the paganistic way is to cater to women, bring flowers and paint her toes, bring classes of water, bring her breakfast in bed, take her to the "RIVIERA" and "Christine Beaches" Friday Night Dinners, entertain by slaves playing Violins. "Proclaiming" this though the land and institutional churches from the highest Mountains; "IF MAMA ain't happy Ain't nobody going to be Happy" and these women "Capitalize" on it. For it is not GODLY or the term Righteousness but Destructive. And then they Claim The Adulteress Queen, name ESTHER, married to a PAGAN "King name 'Xerxes" and she put on the type of dress He liked and the type of shoes he liked, and the kind of Perfume HE liked. and if she didn't, he would cut her head off! A Pagan King! Who was not a believer in the true GOD. And Just because she look GOOD to Him And smelled Good, And walked they way HE wanted her to walk! that is why he delivery her people! And HUNG HAMAN! But many of these so called christian women, treat Pagan men more honorable than their own husbands, For christian women treat "Pulpit Pimps" better than they own Husbands, Many claiming their Husbands are not "spiritual"enough! Yes they do, I have heard it with my own ears. And many dress so that they can look good for the PASTOR! And their husband can tell something ain't right! "For They can smell a DEAD CAT on The line" For these men are trying to be honorable. and stay humble. Husbands don't worry for your Father who is in HEAVEN. says, stand still, and don't revenge yourself! STAND STILL, and WATCH The SALVATION of GOD" I will repay I will avenge you, "For vengeance is mine, I will repay" GOD THE FATHER!

New King James Version (Romans 12)NKV
Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

Berean Study Bible(Deuteronomy 32)BSB
Vengeance is Mine; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; for their day of disaster is near, and their doom is coming quickly.”

GODS WORD does not Lie! So when the South wind blows your way, Stand Still and Watch, "THE SALVATION of GOD":pensive:

"Hallelujah" You stand still and just be quiet and keep your mouth shut. And don't gloat, and Hope he forgives them:pensive: "Because they don't know what they have done" [To their Own Souls]:pensive: and they Don't KNOW "GOD The FATHER":pensive:

Running around talking about a soul mate!:eyes:

We in this day and age, this type of woman is an endangered species, and replace by "modernization".

Teaching Sound Doctrine
"Older women, like wise, are to be reverent in their behavior, not slanderers or addicted to much wine, but teachers of good. IN THIS WAY THEY CAN TRAIN the young women [HOW] to love their husbands and children, ...to be self-controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be blasphemed..…" [ For the Word of GOD has been "BLASPHEMED" by a lot of these Modern day christian women"]
And a lot of men have become "cowards" in the name of JESUS. And The Women "RULES" over THEM in Total Rebellion pertaining to the WORD of GOD! But JESUS will RULE with a "IRON ROD" Tea parties are going to be over with! For "GOD" will rule! and HE is Not FEMININE But
MASCULINE:eyes: and EVERY KNEE will BOW! SO GET READY, If you did not like The Boldness of Your Husband get over it! Boyfriends and Paramours are not allowed:eyes:


These old modern day women and Pastors teach the opposite of GOD"S WORD. Why do you think these homes AND FAMILIES are "TORN APART"! EITHER IT IS GOD"S WAY OR NO WAY. GOD IS NOT GOING TO BLESS YOUR WAY, OLD WOMAN, AND PASTORS. It's HIS WAY OR NO WAY AT ALL, are you listening "HADAB and ABIHU". It is not the man's fault, for those who have lead them, have lead them astray! But Jesus is Coming! and He will not be "Compromising" He has orders from The FATHER!

PS. No where in "HOLY SCRIPTURE" I say No where, where GOD the FATHER has SAID to a WOMEN" "I AM The GOD OF YOUR FATHERS" If so, proof it show me, where it is written. yes Angels has spoken to women as messengers from GOD, BUT no where where god has spoken directly to a woman. And I am not referring to the SON of GOD! JESUS. This does not mean that i am referring that women is less important than a man. But What I am saying "Every creature has its place in GOD" for every creature in "ETERNITY" has its Rightful place in GOD that was created in "CHRIST JESUS"

AND If you cannot understand my Language, shame on you, For i am going on for the prize. For I believe I am going on beyond the beyond, so fasten your seats belts. And i am going on to the high calling in Christ JESUS! And if it gets foggy, I am sorry i cannot help you, for i am moving up The Kings highway. I am going beyond the STARS, FOR I am a WAYWARD TRAVELER yes I am.:pensive: .......For HE told me:
(Colossians 3)NASB
"Therefore, if you have been raised with Christ, keep seeking the things that are above, where Christis, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on the things that are above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory."

I know i am different! for I know I have been Change! In Glory is not a place. For we the sons of GOD are "The GLORY of GOD" and will be "MANIFESTED Through out ETERNITY" I know I am different, and not of this WORLD, For HE has been shaping me and Molding me. I cannot speak for others but i know I am being Transform into what, i know not what! "For He is the POTTER and we are the Clay"

Isaiah 64:8
But now, O LORD, You are our Father; we are the clay, and You are the potter; we are all the work of Your hand.:pensive:

Matthew 20:15
Do I not have the right to do as I please with what is mine? Or are you envious because I am generous?'

Romans 9:20
But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to Him who formed it, "Why did You make me like this?"

Romans 9:21
Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special occasions and another for common use?:pensive:
 
Loyal
Please forgive me. I was not trying to steer others away from this site, I was just letting anyone see other points of view concerning this topic
No problem engagement is good to produce The crop! You cannot get the wine without squeezing The Grape. You cannot get the True Fragrance without crushing The ROSE. And sometimes you cannot get the Love you really want until you hold her,,, and squeeze her tight:pensive:
 
Loyal
The terms "love" and "sex" exists in the English language. If you want to pretend that these two terms do not exist then go for it, pretend away, neither are offensive.

Greetings

This wasn't a reply for me but I do feel led to share a few things regarding your comments.

Love and sex should never be compared, they are not the same, they never were, the Bible has at least 7 different types of love, each with a different meaning. The English language uses one word fits all. So there the problem starts.

People talk about making love, sex, but that is because the English language chooses to call it making love and not intercourse.

Many in the world quote God is love, believers and lost souls, he is, but which love? God's love is agape, it is a divine love, a hesed divine love, a steadfast divine love. There is no other love like it yet the world, particularly English speaking world talk of God's love and all other types of love as the same.

People love their children, their parents, they also love their pets, some love their job, others love their hobbies, car, holidays, many now a days love themselves, (this was prophesied), some love killing, some love killing games, some love porn, and on it goes.

The two terms you quote are in the English language, but we cannot understand the Bible by considering the world or the English language, far from it.

Shalom
 
Loyal
We Do have 1 Corinthians 13 -- the KJ uses the term 'charity' -- the NKJ uses the word 'love'. vs 4 starts describing 'love'.

And, yes, the term 'making love' -- it's actually Should be 'showing love' in a physical way to your husband/ wife. And, yes, intercourse would be the culmination Of -- the result Of 'foreplay'.

Didn't know there are 7 kinds of love in Bible. Three - yes. I just looked up the seven that you mentioned. The article said that only three are actually in the Bible. Agape, phileo , and eros. There are the other kinds that the author did mention.
Sex is Usually thought of as the way that husbands/ wives show physical love to each other. Or when people who've been dating for a while -decide they want to take their relationship 'to the next level'. It's 'assumed' that there will be some amount of sexual activity taking place 'after a while'. If Not, then that relationship ends and socializing is put in a different direction.

In various cultures -- the parents pick the mate for their grown kids. Or politics puts couples together. And That is possibly why the men are Told to 'love your wife' Or 'wives'. (women don't have more than one husband -- men have had more than one wife - which is now illegal). In Biblical times -- men had at least 2 wives and some had concubines. Some had Many. There would be at least one of them available for sex.

When a woman feels loved -- she's much more likely to respond in a positive way.
 

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