If we know Christmas is Pagan, why still Celebrate it?

[JohnB]

I wonder why there is nothing in black and white in the Bible that prohibits how we celebrate our Messiah.

And why is this thread filled with Pagan ideals ?

Romans 16:17-18
Avoid divisive people that DO NOT glorify our Lord, they use smooth talk to decive others on Gods word.
Gal 5:20 specifically says it is sinful behaviour.

 

[BroTan]

Paul say in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments. But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague! They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the Bible or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family or maybe they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

In the scripture it's written in (Gen.2:2-5) (v.2) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. (v.3) And God blessed the seventh day (every seventh day of the week is a blessed and holy day) and sanctified it (it is a day that is separated (sanctified) for a purpose) because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (v.5) “and there was not a man to till the ground.” There was not a Jew, Catholic, Baptist, or Seventh Day Adventist; in fact, there was not a Christian when He constituted the Sabbath Day!

It’s easy for people to say how much they love the Lord, they may be able to deceive man, but God knows the mind. Many profess they know God, but in their works they deny him everyday. Paul said in (Titus 1:16) They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him; being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Yea, most people are talking about how they know God with their lips, but by they works they are doing something totally different. The Lord God commanded you to remember the Sabbath day (which is the seventh day of the week) to keep it holy and you deny him to his face by saying “I go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) because Paul broke bread on Sunday”. Most so-called Christians believe that Jesus died on Good Friday rose Easter Sunday morning, and that's contrary to the word of God, on top of that we have to deal with Jesus being born on December 25 and that's, not even according to the word of God. People just make up stuff to do and try to stick it in the word of God. Jesus says in Matthew 10: 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. But what do man say, Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men. These are sayings associated with Christmas, the day that Jesus the Christ was born; or was he? No!

 

[BroTan]

January the 1st suppose to be the new year and the beginning of months, like December 25 supposed to be Christ birthday. But let’s when the real new year begins. Let’s start this in Genesis 1: 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: now let's take a look at this because it says the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night so if we read a little bit further up we will see that the evening in the morning is the first day, 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. even in the morning is the second day, 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. So the day starts in the evening not 12:00 clock a.m. or is it p.m. the midnight. Can’t be both at the same time. So we have people shooting and bringing in the so call new year at the wrong time.

But let’s see when the real first month starts according to the word of God. Let’s go into Exodus 12: 1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, 2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. 3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house: 43 And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: there shall no stranger eat thereof:

So we see this is the passover, and we know that the passover is around spring time, which is the same time the pagan Easter, which is a different season, because December 31st and January 1st is still the same season, which is winter time. But let’s get a name of this Month in Exodus 13:3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten. 4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.

 

[Twistie]

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak

Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another." This speaks to building up others and fostering unity..

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth (well-being)."

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted

But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace to the humble

But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

Hope all's well..

Don't be a canker(⁠人⁠ ⁠•͈⁠ᴗ⁠•͈⁠)

 

[BroTan]

In Leviticus, 23rd Chapter the Sabbath day and the High Holy Days which begin I believe on the new moon. Are the feast of the Lord's. These days are to be observe in their season. In Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. These feast days are the plans of God, they represent the future, with example from the past. All Holy Days are not to eat or drink, such as the atonement, but still to be observe. So this is actually what a person would say to someone who do not keep these feast day of the Lord, if they were judging them on those High and Holy Sabbath days, they were keeping. They would quoted Colossians 2: 16-17. So if you keep the first day of the week, Sunday, Easter and Christmas Paganism, then it makes no sense to use this verse. You cannot worship other days and God’s, that’s not written in the Bible to do, and then use the Bible to justify it. So if you keep another day thats not written in the Bible, then you are doing something on your own, thus it would really be contradictorily.

 

[Twistie]

In Leviticus, 23rd Chapter the Sabbath day and the High Holy Days which begin I believe on the new moon. Are the feast of the Lord's. These days are to be observe in their season. In Colossians 2:16-17, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. These feast days are the plans of God, they represent the future, with example from the past. All Holy Days are not to eat or drink, such as the atonement, but still to be observe. So this is actually what a person would say to someone who do not keep these feast day of the Lord, if they were judging them on those High and Holy Sabbath days, they were keeping. They would quoted Colossians 2: 16-17. So if you keep the first day of the week, Sunday, Easter and Christmas Paganism, then it makes no sense to use this verse. You cannot worship other days and God’s, that’s not written in the Bible to do, and then use the Bible to justify it. So if you keep another day thats not written in the Bible, then you are doing something on your own, thus it would really be contradictorily.

 

[BroTan]

The commandments of God is to worship Him. The commandment of man, is not to.

That's right. A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).

This was a direct answer to a direct question, which all of us will do well to take heed to. Anybody can claim to have faith, but actions speak louder than words. Faith and works go together and you can't have one without the other. "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).