I Think, Silly Question But....

[Maureen]

i feel so daft at asking this one, but here goes, I think Jesus must think it's silly too, can't get an answer either.
Tis about KNITTING, yes you got it Knitting, on SUNDAY, the verse which come to mind is the one about the desciple going through the corn field and plucking an ear of corn and being condemned for it, I can't find it, it is in one of the Gospels but cant get it, the reply was the Sabboth was made for Man not Man for the Sabboth, I have said we have 6 days to labour and do our work, knitting I would class as 'work' maybe not, now that I mull it over, it's leisure, past time, yes.
we discussed this on our bus run tonight and one said no other said yes I do, be really helpful to hear your views please. May God grant to you His power through renewing your mind with His Lordbless your people. Amen

 

[Jesuslovesu]

See I dont know Maureen I thought that we are to keep our focus on God during the Sabbath. I myself have questions about what is permittable on the Sabbath and I will keep my eye on this thread for info. I think it is really cool you Knitt my mom is trying to teach me.. Dont have the time for it right now with three young ones but I also enjoy crocheting. Well I will talk to you later God bless you

 

[TDS52]

The Scripture that you referred to is in Matthew 12:1-8, Mark 2:23-28, and Luke 6:1-5. I do not think that knitting is work, but an enjoyable hobby, craft, or pasttime...to be condemned for doing it on the sabbath would be for people, like the Pharisees, who want to find something wrong in/with everybody...and there are many like that, even today. If someone did knitting as an occupation for profit and it took them away from fellowship/worship of the Lord, I would say they need to evaluate their walk with/for the Lord and set priorities, but I don't think it would be harmful.

 

[jiggyfly]

John 5:16-18
16*So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus for breaking the Sabbath rules. 17*But Jesus replied, “My Father never stops working, so why should I?” 18*So the Jewish leaders tried all the more to kill him. In addition to disobeying the Sabbath rules, he had spoken of God as his Father, thereby making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
*Some of the Pharisees said, “This man Jesus is not from God, for he is working on the Sabbath.” Others said, “But how could an ordinary sinner do such miraculous signs?” So there was a deep division of opinion among them.

Colossians 2:16&17
*16 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new-moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. 17*For these rules were only shadows of the real thing, Christ himself.

 

[Maureen]

Hallelujah, yes, I do agree and said so that I believe knitting to be a hobby also, therefore not classed as work, I was trying to compare it with mowing the lawn, which is work, washing the car, etc, it doesn't compare, you think?
Thank you for taking the time to read and reply with holy disernment.
It was also put that it would be keeping us in bondage to think like that over knitting, (hobby) and Jesus came to make the captive free, and when we're free we're free indeed. Amen

by the way our bus outing was our Church Ladies we have a good time together, the same group go 9 of us get together regularly to have 'Cottage Meetings' but it has been laid on my heart to have a 'Matthew Marty' :cake: Luke 9 V29 Then Matthew (Levi) held a great banquet for Jesus at his house and a large crowd of tax collectores and others went eating with them. N.I.V.
To our 'Cottage Meetings' only Christians come, I think 'other' should be invited, but for it NOT to be turned into 'a party' which it could easily be when the 'world' are invited, you understand I know, this would be so wrong and against the very thing Jesus did, so it will take careful inviting, for the first one anyway then take it from there, its funny the way the 'world' see things I would have it now, broken hip and all, oh yes I fell on 18th May in kitchen and broke my hip bone, doctors couldn't give me a relpacement said, this is worth waiting to hear now.....I WAS TOO YOUNG.....I asked him to say it again, (only joking now) at 52 you would understand me, short version....have a metal plate and screws inserted instead of replacement, can eniligten more in next post about this accident as have lots to tell and there was answer to prayer also through it.

Knitting Jesus you is something I've done from time began, like primary School at age 7 approx, knit myself a pink jumper with brown sleeves and neckband thought it was just glorious can still remember it well.
Have knit for my 4 when children, for my husband, a Starsky and Hutch cardigan, remeber them? that gave me my first migraine, did it in all of 3 weeks no wonder. a three quarter cardi.with belt.
too crochet classes as Granni taught me to do squares but I wanted to be able to follow a pattern which looked liked Hebrew to me, but mastered it after classes then went to town with that did what would fill a large black dustbin bag with dresses hats mitts, and no 'girls' in sight
got 2 beautiful Grandsons praise God, 'an inheritance'
well that's for you keep up practising it gets easier with it so does everything even crutches.... :thumbs_up my daughter wants this aran cardi for her daughter 14months for this coming Tuesday for their hols, as my husband said poor baby is sooooo naked she is really depending on me finishing this

TD552 Liked how our Lord used you to put it like so.....financial gain, never crossed my mind put that way. I could only see it as taking my eyes of the Word and onto a knitting pattern, which is okay the other 6 days as I only knit in small doses.....but I would still read the word on Sunday and knit in small doses.

well thanks all for needed enlightenment, you came through as always, isn't fellowship great, via p.c. too, Praise God that we can put even it to use for his Glory.

 

[sparky]

Based on Romans 10v4 and collosians2v13-16 i personaly dont recognise the sabbath at all.Often in my line of work i have to work 7 days a week and feel no guilt over this at all.If you were to ask people when the sabbath is the majority would say Sunday which we know it isnt.Service to God is not dependant on certain days rather it comes from the heart and often is spontaneous in nature.Having said that i think it is useful to set aside time for our Father where there is perhaps no distractions,work included.

 

[Mike]

Hey sister . You go on and have a good relaxing time knitting ! Be free in the Lord Jesus Christ ! :boy_hug: :computer: Mike

 

[lnrobar]

Well, the way I see it is that if you are condemned about it and you feel guilty about knitting on Sunday, then don't do it. But you know, it's just a hobby as you have said, so have fun I say!

God Bless
Sis in Christ
Lnrobar

 

[YourPastorT]

Good Question,

One man's hobby is another man's work. I personally enjoy, really, enjoy mowing the grass. I put on my MP3 player, loaded with praise and worship music, and for 2 hours I walk around the yard singing and praising my Lord. I get some strange looks for my neighbors, and I can tell when I am singing too loud because my wife, will come out of the house smiling at me. Therefore, I do not count that as work, but pleasure. However, I also do not count that as my time with God. A daily prayer time is essential to proper growth, a time in which you are focused only on God. I believe that God enjoys joining us at our hobbies, but I know He desires one on one time with us with no distractions. To say that this time most be on one day or another, is a little legalistic and places us under the law. When we find ourself under the law we find ourselves condemned by the law, but we are under grace.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

If Knitting is your hobby, enjoy it with God on any day you choose, but do not let it take the place of your daily time with God, or do not let it keep you from the fellowship of other believers. Find a Christian Knitting circle! Pray without ceasing, Read the Word Daily, attend worship services and knit! And remeber;

Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

This includes our Hobbies, for even they should glorify God.
God Bless you

In Christ Service,
Your Pastor T

 

[Chad]

This is a tough one for me personally. I work in my home office (bedroom to zoom in on the exact 'home' location lol). I love what I do. I'm sure you all know that I've stressed out left and right but 99% of my days are joyous because of the Christ Jesus.

I do work just about 24/7 (humoursly that is). I work a lot, I love it but I dont' count it as 'labor' but faithful works unto the Lord. I do get my deserved rest (after learning my lesson and wearing myself down in the past). I honestly dont' know how to properly celebrate the Sabbath other than try to avoid the computer for a few hours less than the usual. Its very different for me in my position.

I'm stuck between a rock and hard place so to speak. Its in my heart to watch over the community of brothers/sisters here. Then my business, being a 24/7 industry which I operate alone - is serious as well. I'm holding people's critical data and have to make sure their sites are up and running 24/7.

In the end, praise the Lord

 

[jiggyfly]

Good Question,

One man's hobby is another man's work. I personally enjoy, really, enjoy mowing the grass. I put on my MP3 player, loaded with praise and worship music, and for 2 hours I walk around the yard singing and praising my Lord. I get some strange looks for my neighbors, and I can tell when I am singing too loud because my wife, will come out of the house smiling at me. Therefore, I do not count that as work, but pleasure. However, I also do not count that as my time with God. A daily prayer time is essential to proper growth, a time in which you are focused only on God. I believe that God enjoys joining us at our hobbies, but I know He desires one on one time with us with no distractions. To say that this time most be on one day or another, is a little legalistic and places us under the law. When we find ourself under the law we find ourselves condemned by the law, but we are under grace.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

If Knitting is your hobby, enjoy it with God on any day you choose, but do not let it take the place of your daily time with God, or do not let it keep you from the fellowship of other believers. Find a Christian Knitting circle! Pray without ceasing, Read the Word Daily, attend worship services and knit! And remeber;

Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

This includes our Hobbies, for even they should glorify God.
God Bless you

In Christ Service,
Your Pastor T

A big AMEN!!!!! Make your relationship with God a personal one, not a legalistic one. Good post!

 

[Maureen]

You know I can relate to 'if it puts you under condemnation then don't do it' which it does, so today I didn't knit, but then I really don't think I wanted to do it, but perhaps my conscience was being pricked over it.
what about the commandment 'keep the Sabboth day Holy...6 days shalt thy labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the Sabboth of the Lord thy God.....
so do we now choose which bits from the Bible we adhere to? and conform to 'well my hearts right with God and that's what matters' yes I agree and our hearts should be, but I also find we should adhere to the 10 Commandments.
Now what say you? I pray it with grace and wisdom granted from the Lord our God, Amen.
I was totally amazed at some words about not holding the Sabboth be it on which ever day, I love Sunday I love to get to Church twice on the day, I love the praise the Word, just all in it from morn to night I assumed all Christians were off this view, me being presumtious, please forgive, who am I only a mere sinner saved by His grace.
This has turned out to be very interesting indeed.

 

[jiggyfly]

You know I can relate to 'if it puts you under condemnation then don't do it' which it does, so today I didn't knit, but then I really don't think I wanted to do it, but perhaps my conscience was being pricked over it.
what about the commandment 'keep the Sabboth day Holy...6 days shalt thy labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the Sabboth of the Lord thy God.....
so do we now choose which bits from the Bible we adhere to? and conform to 'well my hearts right with God and that's what matters' yes I agree and our hearts should be, but I also find we should adhere to the 10 Commandments.
Now what say you? I pray it with grace and wisdom granted from the Lord our God, Amen.
I was totally amazed at some words about not holding the Sabboth be it on which ever day, I love Sunday I love to get to Church twice on the day, I love the praise the Word, just all in it from morn to night I assumed all Christians were off this view, me being presumtious, please forgive, who am I only a mere sinner saved by His grace.
This has turned out to be very interesting indeed.

There is an old covenant and a new and greater, better and more marvelous covenant it's your choice. Oh I almost forgot to list scripture, start with Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22:21

 

[Maureen]

Yes I can understand were your coming from
as Jesus taught differantly, 'Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you, turn your other cheek' but do we have the right to pick and choose, I know the blood animal sacrifice was completed in the Blood of Jesus shed on the cross, the ultimate sacrifice for our sins,
in the Brethren church I attend on Sunday night they keep with 'head covering' in that the women must wear hats, now it doesnt' say 'HATS' in the Bilble so if they are going by the Word, well enough said, I don't feel conficted as yet, to wear one, and wont do it just to 'fit in' wrong, but when I am and if I am I will, my daughter went when I was in hospital to video a Baptism for me two sisters were being Baptised and I didn't want to miss it, she sat at the front row which if left to her own choice she would have been in the back row, and in doing so a lady who was commentating for her blind friend told her friend 'now theres a girl with long blonde hair sitting in the front row without a hat on, and I don't think she's going to put one on either', well our Charlotte was so embarresed she is not saved and does not attend church and when she does this is what she hears said about her, now were's the Christianity in that?
What do you think? she will never to back inside that Church again now.
I can Thank God that I do attend other Churches who are not so judgemental.

 

[burgeon]

Jesus is Lord!

PastorT:

I laughed while reading your post. You have a good sense of humor.

I have read a few of your threads. I think you communicate excellently. Have you written articles or published your work?

Your Sister in Christ,
Dr. Bon Vie

 

[James M Smith]

Sunday

i feel so daft at asking this one, but here goes, I think Jesus must think it's silly too, can't get an answer either.
Tis about KNITTING, yes you got it Knitting, on SUNDAY, the verse which come to mind is the one about the desciple going through the corn field and plucking an ear of corn and being condemned for it, I can't find it, it is in one of the Gospels but cant get it, the reply was the Sabboth was made for Man not Man for the Sabboth, I have said we have 6 days to labour and do our work, knitting I would class as 'work' maybe not, now that I mull it over, it's leisure, past time, yes.
we discussed this on our bus run tonight and one said no other said yes I do, be really helpful to hear your views please. May God grant to you His power through renewing your mind with His Lordbless your people. Amen

The gospel that it is in ,is (Matt.12:1);and knitting is not working,it is something you like doing as a past time.And as long as you do anything with the love of Christ in your heart on Sunday.So you keep on knitting for the Lord on Sunday.Keep your heart pure and God will Bless you. James

 

[Maureen]

My this was a long time ago now.
I also remember asking the Pastor about cycling on Sunday and walking the dog.

None of which I do now, not for any reason other than lack of energy.

Can't get myself back into the knitting.

We can make some things to be a noose around our neck, the Holy Spirit will convict us when needed.

Thank you for replying.