I never paid close attention to George Muller Life, But This Documentary start Breaking me again, how far can a man be broken

[PloughBoy]

It is GOD the Father shaping the Soul and you know it. Molding us into the image of Christ JESUS what kind of material we are being made out of and of What is this knife , That GOD uses to carve the images of our soul. What peculiar pain is this, that we feel, that have become our Familiar friend down and through out the years. we kindly embrace it with reluctance but holding still. and today as they narrated some words "George Muller" spoke, that knife begin to slice another piece of my soul. LORD help me JESUS. I could not move, and I could not still HIS hand. Gone to another level. Pretty soon it will be nothing left. Piece by piece slice by slice, he has been taken it all away.

 

[PloughBoy]

I got to take me break. Tomorrow is The 7th day of the week, Watch!

 

[Dave M]

his book is even better,

yet another Christian. Do have any example of people you admire that are a child of God that do not call themselves a Christian?

Great Video thanks for sharing

 

[PloughBoy]

his book is even better,

yet another Christian. Do have any example of people you admire that are a child of God that do not call themselves a Christian?

Great Video thanks for sharing

Let me try to get this english syntax right this time because evidently my English "Syntax" must be so bad. One step at a time. And i will list it in numbers. English elementary type, type.

1. Many have called me a christian all my life.
2. I have a christian name
3. My mother was a christian
4. My father was a christian ordain christian deacon
5. My Grandfather was a christian ordain christian deacon both sides of the family
6. my grandmother was a christian both sides of the family
7. My great grandmother and sister where Christians "Missionaries" of The Canadian Tribal Indians
8. my brother is a Ordain Christian pastor
9. I am a Ordain Christian Minister
10. I was Baptize when i was about 8 years old and still have" The Golden Seal Baptism Certificate Document" of my Baptism. Stamp in real GOLD.
11. my given christian name means: 'bearer of Christ" a name given by GOD to me.

12.I was born of GOD before i knew i was born of GOD. The church and many christians knew who i was before i knew who i was. Every where i went as kid and on; "you got The Mark on you" Be them, white, black, Methodist, Holiness Luther, baptist, Pentecostals, Quarters, Prophets, all my life, telling me who i am . Their speech: Keep going you will see , they would say.

13. Then just before easter in 1977, I found out who i was. And he called me By my Name and i saw Him face to face! And I have never been the same! Then one Day Jesus introduce me To The FATHER! then He sealed it and Told me who i was and who i was not!

And i am going to say it I am not a "christian" I am A "Child of GOD" if that is not good enough take it up with HIMl and state your complaint!

Now, think about that. and that is the short story.

Now you choose what ever you want to called me, But i ain't no christian, i been called a "Calvinist" a demon. a negro, a blackie, a bible thumper, a holy roller, "yea he is one those smart______., I been called a female dog, by my wife, and the list go's on. But when I proclaim I am a "Child of The living GOD" all hell breaks loose.


1st thing they say: well i am one too. My thought, "Ok" their response you ain;t a christian, you don't believe in Jesus..How come you don't believe in Jesus You cannot be saved unless you are christian They pour it on. How come you do not like christians......Here they go "Ploughboy" is not save. He ain't a christian. He don't believe in JESUS! Why don't you believe in JESUS!

I am going to stop right here. How come you don't go to Church, You got to go to church You got to belong. Belong To what ? The CHURCH, The CHURCH what church? Well Ploughboy my church ain't like that, our church is different, My church ain't like that, we are christians over here.

Now think, all of what i said. Think, and i don't mean in "Tongues'. Do not get mad . think and meditate and pray that the Lord gives you understanding.

I am not a christian and no one is going to make me into a liar! to suit them. And the words i have spoken is the "TRUTH" but you may call me what you like, it makes no difference to me.

 

[PloughBoy]

his book is even better,

yet another Christian. Do have any example of people you admire that are a child of God that do not call themselves a Christian?

Great Video thanks for sharing

Thanks Dave.

 

[Dave M]

Let me try to get this english syntax right this time because evidently my English "Syntax" must be so bad. One step at a time. And i will list it in numbers. English elementary type, type.

1. Many have called me a christian all my life.
2. I have a christian name
3. My mother was a christian
4. My father was a christian ordain christian deacon
5. My Grandfather was a christian ordain christian deacon both sides of the family
6. my grandmother was a christian both sides of the family
7. My great grandmother and sister where Christians "Missionaries" of The Canadian Tribal Indians
8. my brother is a Ordain Christian pastor
9. I am a Ordain Christian Minister
10. I was Baptize when i was about 8 years old and still have" The Golden Seal Baptism Certificate Document" of my Baptism. Stamp in real GOLD.
11. my given christian name means: 'bearer of Christ" a name given by GOD to me.

12.I was born of GOD before i knew i was born of GOD. The church and many christians knew who i was before i knew who i was. Every where i went as kid and on; "you got The Mark on you" Be them, white, black, Methodist, Holiness Luther, baptist, Pentecostals, Quarters, Prophets, all my life, telling me who i am . Their speech: Keep going you will see , they would say.

13. Then just before easter in 1977, I found out who i was. And he called me By my Name and i saw Him face to face! And I have never been the same! Then one Day Jesus introduce me To The FATHER! then He sealed it and Told me who i was and who i was not!

And i am going to say it I am not a "christian" I am A "Child of GOD" if that is not good enough take it up with HIMl and state your complaint!

Now, think about that. and that is the short story.

Now you choose what ever you want to called me, But i ain't no christian, i been called a "Calvinist" a demon. a negro, a blackie, a bible thumper, a holy roller, "yea he is one those smart______., I been called a female dog, by my wife, and the list go's on. But when I proclaim I am a "Child of The living GOD" all hell breaks loose.


1st thing they say: well i am one too. My thought, "Ok" their response you ain;t a christian, you don't believe in Jesus..How come you don't believe in Jesus You cannot be saved unless you are christian They pour it on. How come you do not like christians......Here they go "Ploughboy" is not save. He ain't a christian. He don't believe in JESUS! Why don't you believe in JESUS!

I am going to stop right here. How come you don't go to Church, You got to go to church You got to belong. Belong To what ? The CHURCH, The CHURCH what church? Well Ploughboy my church ain't like that, our church is different, My church ain't like that, we are christians over here.

Now think, all of what i said. Think, and i don't mean in "Tongues'. Do not get mad . think and meditate and pray that the Lord gives you understanding.

I am not a christian and no one is going to make me into a liar! to suit them. And the words i have spoken is the "TRUTH" but you may call me what you like, it makes no difference to me.

very interesting thanks for your reply, I remember one thing that you said a while back, that always puzzled me,,,, maybe you can help me understand it better. You said loving Jesus has nothing to do with salvation. Yet I would say you cant have salvation with out loving Jesus,

( I do appreciate you taking the time post why you dont wan to be called a christian, )

 

[PloughBoy]

very interesting thanks for your reply, I remember one thing that you said a while back, that always puzzled me,,,, maybe you can help me understand it better. You said loving Jesus has nothing to do with salvation. Yet I would say you cant have salvation with out loving Jesus,

( I do appreciate you taking the time post why you dont wan to be called a christian, )

2 questions

1.
You said loving Jesus has nothing to do with salvation. Yet I would say you cant have salvation with out loving Jesus,

a. It is impossible to love God if you have not been converted and Become a New Creature. Once you are a new creature, That is your "SALVATION" it is a Gift and now that is the Love of God place upon you. He 1st loved us. then gave us The "Ability" to LOVE HIM. and The expression of That Love is: we keep His commandments. for we have the gift to do so others do not have the gift to keep His commandments. That is why a lot of Christians think we are like them. But we are different. and if you hang around them you will pick up their ways of a different type of christian lifestyle and you will go astray. and You will not go into The WAY of "Sanctification and Holiness" but you might become a good little worldly christian. and good church member among society.

2.
John 14:15
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
John 14:23
Jesus replied, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love.

New American Standard Bible (John 14:21)
The one who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will reveal Myself to him.”

Describe above is a "benefit" to us who are not swayed away from "Sanctification and Holiness" by other type of christians who cannot benefit in such "pursuits". and they think we are like them and have the same results as they do. But not so.

My definition of what a christian is, has evolved on the whims of men and all the different kinds of Church organizations as they see fit to spin the bottle. And i have refuse to be called something that "GOD" The FATHER has Not So Ordain to be. And it has been made plain who we are by GOD. our Father And this queen who is occupying The Holy seat has put her claims on something that does not belong to her.

Now in saying this I do not condemn others, for the wisdom that GOD has given to me in such matter. And no way can i ask others to follow me in this way, Let GOD be their witness in what they understand and choose. for we all must stand before the Bema Seat. where much is given, much is required of that individual person in "Christ JESUS" for we all are "fitted" together as a tight fitted building of GOD. and Each one of use are place by GOD into that Position that is to Come.

PS. If any "Child of The Living GOD" views The LOVE that GOD speaks about in a worldly type way or feelings of any kind of a worldly type expression has "Miss the MARK". for it is impossible to express the Love that "GOD" has given us to reveal to this World without becoming A New CREATURE that is "Alienated" from this world in which we live in now in which we do not belong. and we know it. Beyond any shadow of the doubt.

Dave M., I did my best after a days rest.

Unity in the Body (Ephesians 4)BSB
"Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Christ Himself, who is the head. From Him the whole body, fitted and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love through the work of each individual part.....So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking.…"

You cannot think love , like the earth think love. Like a christian think love, And the word "Agape" cannot make you change the thought and drive you into the Love of God True expression. For that possession is given to you by GOD for you to express.