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I feel like giving up on Jesus. Please pray for me

Discussion in 'Prayer Request' started by Luis, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. I am not born again. I have not received Jesus, and everyday, my belief in God fluctuates. I have gone to church, I have prayed for years, numerous times, I have cried asking for God to answer me. I have pushed myself to the limit asking to receive acknowledgement from God. The amount of times I have prayed is countless. And I am at the point where I feel like this is all a cruel joke. Not only have I never felt anything. I have such a hard time believing in Jesus. My mother, the person closest to me, doesnt believe in the Bible or Jesus. Yet she would stop on the side of the road to give someone a dollar, or risk her life for someone in need. Something most people would not do, and being told by a pastor that my mother would burn in hell for eternity because of what she believes in makes it virtually impossible for me to believe in anything the Bible states. The problem is, I dont want to give up. I want to feel what everyone else tells me they feel. I have been told by others that they hear the voice of God, or that they know God is there. I dont feel that, but I want to. I dont feel anything, but I want to. I want that happiness, i want that feeling. I just want God to be real. I am so lonely, and God never answers me. Every day I'm giving up more and more. I just want an answer, i want someone to explain to me why God has not acknowledged me. I always hear the same thing, to "wait" or to "keep having faith". But at this point I have nearly reached my limit. I am asking for not only prayers, but for any advice. Thanks
     
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  2. fast, pray, and be obedient to his word. What part of the bible are you referring to when you say you do not believe it?

    I pray for Luis in the might name of Jesus Christ that he may wrap his loving arms around you and let you see clearly.
     
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  3. I'm praying for you Luis.

    You stated you want advice.

    It seems that you are desiring to get closer to God. But it also seems that you are pursuing "that feeling" that others have.
    My first advice would be pursue the relationship with God through getting to know His son Jesus, don't pursue a feeling.

    Unfortunately many people in our world pursue feelings. For example, instead of pursuing a healthy lifestyle through diet,
    exercising, and a low stress life, which will lead to a balance and healthy feeling, they pursue the feeling. So they take drugs,
    drink alcohol, have sex indiscriminately outside of marriage to get that feeling. This also goes for within the church.
    Many pursue the "feeling" of being filled with the Holy Spirit.

    In Matthew 13:20-21(Parable of the sower) Jesus said,
    "The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy.
    21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes
    because of the word, they quickly fall away."

    When I read that I think about this "joy" that Jesus is speaking of that they receive the WORD with could overlap
    with a superficial feeling that many chase, but as Jesus said they have no roots. The honest truth that many Christians
    don't share is that the Christian life is not all roses and flowers where when you come to Jesus everything gets better.
    That is not the case my friend. In some aspects of your life it will get harder. Jesus said in Luke 9:23, ""Whoever wants
    to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me." We have to die to our desire daily
    if we want to follow Jesus.

    So yea following Jesus is hard, but it is more than worth it. Paul tells us in Romans 8:18, "I consider that our
    present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us." Simply put Paul is telling us
    that when we get our reward in heaven we will be like, wow, this is more than worth it. Our sufferings here is but a moment
    in time, but our reward is but forever. In the scheme of eternities timeline it's like you feeling some pain for 1/1,000,000,000,000(1/billionth)
    of a second, and then getting a reward for 1 billion years and more. No comparison.

    Finally, I think that there is likely a sin in your life that you are cherishing. I'm not saying this to be critical or harsh, but
    I see that you are seeking the truth and I discern that you are able to receive this. If you choose to get closer to God
    repent of your sins. You will be wasting your time if you think you can get the "feeling" peace, joy, and love of God in your
    heart while still holding onto sin. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying be perfect then God will accept you, no no no no no no. That
    is not what I'm saying for God already loves you. I'm saying agree with yourself to turn away, and once you tell yourself I don't want
    to lie, have sex outside of marriage, get drunk, look at porn, do drugs, etc, etc, then God will grant you the power to began the change
    to be molded slowly and slowly more into His image.

    Though it will seem at times that you have a large load on your shoulders, Jesus will be there with you to comfort you. I'm praying for you.
    You are on the right path because you are seeking, you are not there yet because you have not accepted, but I'm encouraged because
    you are seeking. God tells us in Jeremiah 29:13, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." I believe HIM.
     
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  4. I pray now that God give you the answers you need rather than the ones you think you need. Do not presume that because you have not received what some has told you need, that you cannot find God for yourself. The communication between one person and God is not always just exactly the same as it is between another person and God.

    What is it you expect from God? This natural life of ours may cruel and at times or even altogether impossible for our body of flesh. Jesus was tempted as every man is and in spite of all of his efforts for God, Jesus received painful torture and death. What was it that God expected from him? What is it that God expects from you?

    Many people who have serve God faithfully seldom "feel" anything in the manner that you mean. God does not always respond to us with what we would usually call miracles, but He does respond even you may not yet be able to hear His voice. What each person needs is the spiritual "ears to hear" His voice and the spiritual "eyes to see" His face. Don't decide ahead of time what that hearing and seeing should be. You begin by stepping out in faith. What is faith?

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1

    That means you do it without seeing a thing. One of Jesus' closest followers early in his walk with Jesus had doubts and Jesus told him the truth of the matter:

    "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29

    So how can you believe in something which you have not seen? How do you receive a faith that you do not have?

    "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom 10:17

    The "hearing" in that verse is the spiritual hearing I mentioned above. Start reading the Bible even though you understand little or nothing. That is where Word of God will eventually bring the "hearing" spiritually to you. That is where faith can begin. Where do you start reading? Many places are good, but I would suggest starting with the Book of John.

    Read a little bit and pray a little bit, asking not what you think you need, but asking rather for what God wants to give you. Jesus pray to his Father [God] this way:

    "...nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Matt 26:39

    Your mother has something "good" in her heart. Even if she does not recognize it as such or acknowledge it as such, it is God for only He is really good. People who don't serve God do good things. It is not an unheard of thing. Don't let what people say to you in judgment and criticism of you or your mother let you stop trying to come to God.

    What I said about your mother is understood in this verse:

    "That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." John 1:9

    The Light is Jesus, and he does light every person who is physically born, but it is only a glimmer like a small spark, which needs to be carefully fanned to become a flame, the bright Light of God's Truth. The glimmer is given so that each person has enough to see or hear when God calls them to Him. What you mother has is good, but there really is more than that. If she never pursues it, her goodness may never take her beyond this world although many people may see it and benefit by it. Don't you judge here either, neither positively or negatively. Someday, it may well be you that shows her that there really is more Light, but that's not where you are now.

    The first acknowledgement you from God is likely to begin with your acknowledgement of Him. Read the verse below which very simply says all that there is to say about you and God and building a relationship when there is not one:

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matthew 6:33

    How do you seek God's kingdom and righteousness when you don't know what they are? You don't need to know to seek. Read and pray as I mentioned above while read the Bible and as you ask for God's kingdom and righteousness [without knowing what they are] periodically insert the words of Jesus I cited above for you:

    "...nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Matt 26:39

    As you work and pray in the manner I have explained without understanding, then the "all of these things shall be added unto you". This will not be immediate or instantaneous, but if keep on keeping on with the seeking first His kingdom and His righteousness every day and as often as you have time and/or make time He will add things to you [the things that are needed according to God] little by little.

    God will not fail you in this, but you cannot quit or give up because you did not feel anything or hear anything or see anything. You are not to do this for you. You are to do it for God. Remember the "... nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt".

    I will be praying for you, but while my prayer can help you, only YOU can open up the door to your heart for God. He will NOT force open your door to your heart. He will help you do it if you ask Him for help.
     
  5. What is it you have difficulty believing in Jesus? He's the way the truth and the life. Have you read the gospels? Do you not see what an amazing person he was? Jesus didnt just risk his life, he GAVE his life. He didnt just give a dollar, he gave everything!!!


    Just say to God, Im sorry for not believing in you and your son Jesus please forgive me and show me you are for real.

    Get down on your knees if you have to.

    God doesnt answer someone whos proud and thinks they know it all. I used to be the same. But hey, I didnt create the universe...God did! Lol. And its amazing He did because He cares for you and me as we are made in His image. So get to know your maker. You wont regret it.
     
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  6. Hey man, when Jesus walked this earth he was here telling people and trying to make everyone understand this one simple thing, and that is God is love. Love is the answer, and just because you pray a lot and are trying to get a response from God or Jesus is meaningless and pointless because I am not going to lie to you, he may never answer you, this could be him testing you. Everyone wants to get a response or hear back from the Lord but its unlikely, but it doesn't matter because I can promise you that God and Jesus are real and they are always watching, they are watching to see how you will live your life that they have given you and to see if you will be a good, kind, loving person or not. You will be judged by them when you die, and if your love far surpasses your evil and hate then your soul will be with them for the rest of eternity in heaven. Also, from the way it sounds, I doubt that your mother will burn in hell just because she doesn't believe in Jesus. The fact is that most of those people who are telling her that she will burn in hell are the ones who are going to be burning, because like I said, God is love and people who and say that you will burn in hell are trying to scare you into believing in Him. And man, I can tell you this, that is not how Jesus rolls!
     
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  7. "You will be judged by them when you die, and if your love far surpasses your evil and hate then your soul will be with them for the rest of eternity in heaven"

    sounds like a work based salvation
     
  8. Jesus helps those who help themselves. But love also really doesn't require much manual labor, in terms of work. haha
     
  9. so sorry that you are having difficulty in this area

    praying for you

    i had trouble when i first said the salvation prayer: Dear Father in Heaven, thank you for sending Jesus to pay for my sins by dying on the cross. Thank you for raising Him from the dead so that i can have new life. Please forgive my sins and come into my life to make me a new person. In Jesus' name . Amen

    it seemed like it didn't work for me. i went back to church the next week telling them nothing happened - i felt nothing - nothing changed - etc.

    they smiled at me with a kind smile and said talk to God like He is really there - this is called walking by faith.

    i was crushed by this news - i thought what? play mind games with myself? - but i thought about it and decided i would do as they said - even though it felt crazy - hopeless

    so each day - all day - i would talk to God as though He was there - and ending each talk with "in the name of Jesus. Amen" - feeling really stupid about talking to air

    but you know they were right - in a matter of months God had found a way to prove to me He was real - it was a slow process - and i kept at it because i REALLY wanted to know if God was real - and was determined to give it a good try

    now the difference between you and i is that i didn't have a heavy burden of thinking my mother was going to hell - what an awful thing for someone to say to you

    boy that really puts a person in distress right off the bat - what a sad way to start seeking God to see if He is real

    i'm so sorry that someone said such a cruel thing to you

    praying that the trauma of such a statement will be erased from your heart and mind

    just know that a few months after i got saved my parents also got saved - so please do not worry about your mother

    God loves her and has plans for her too - your mother sounds like a really sweet person

    praying for God to prove to you also that He is real

    praying also for your precious mother

    God Bless you my dear friend
     
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  10. Your mum still alive and breathing so God has mercy just pray for your mum, nobody can say say shes going there for sure. I think some pastors just want to warn people what will happen if they dont repent. Jesus came to save, not to condemn.

    Am still praying for my mum.
     
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  11. The loneliness you experience is evidence the Lord hasn't yet changed you.

    When you've met the Lord and have the presence of the Holy Spirit it changes the heart
    and loneliness is gone for good.

    But don't fret, I was living without the Lord for decades.
    I didn't know I was without the Lord, lost and walking the path to destruction.
    I'd grown up in a Christian family so knew of the Lord Jesus Christ.
    I always had a respect for Him. As an adult I drifted away into various false
    teachings and ways of living. This was evidence the Lord and Holy Spirit
    were not in me. One day out of the blue and unexpectedly,
    the Holy Spirit entered my life, convicted me intensely and turned me
    round 180 degrees and 100% to the Lord. The loneliness I'd felt my entire life
    disappeared and hasn't returned because of being filled with love for the
    Lord. This wasn't something I was looking for or seeking - it just happened.
    There is a distinct difference in me - a before and an after. I only wish this
    change occurred while I was in youth so I wouldn't have traveled along the
    wrong path for so long. But from my experience, this change was totally outside my
    control.

    A key to share which may help.... despite being lost (and not knowing it)
    I always had an admiration for the Lord even though I wasn't praying or speaking
    to Him for decades. I loved the way He is, how He walked and taught on this earth.
    Though this feeling of Him was buried away. Another key... I was a ' seeker ' -
    wanting to learn how life works which lead me to read countless books
    on various belief systems and practice some of them, which after
    awakening I now know are all false doctrines.

    The suggestion to put to you is.... you ought to relax and let go.
    Look at the Lord - work out the truth of whether
    you do truly love Him. Is it genuine love?. If you discover you don't
    genuinely love Him, then you need to accept the truth because this is
    what the Lord sees. If you don't love Him, step back, and sense what you
    feel like doing. Perhaps explore the world for a while. I don't think
    we can force ourselves to love the Lord or anyone.
    Do you need a break from trying? Re-discover the Lord as a
    real person? The Lord looks at the heart and what
    is true. Often in moving away, what is true can be seen.

    Do you trust the Lord?
    What is it that you're really wanting from Him?

    The Lord is in charge of your journey. He knows each of us
    better than we know ourselves.

    Dear Lord,
    I know you have Luis in your hands
    Please help him to come into a loving relationship with You
    Where he experiences fulfillment and peace
    I ask in the name of Y'Shua
    Thank you always
    Amen
     
  12. You are making this a whole lot harder than it is supposed to be. Asking and praying is very good but acknowledging that you are a sinner and asking for forgiveness ( repentance) is also a key. Going to church is not the answer, a change in heart is!!!
    • Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven
    There is a difference and that difference is repentance. When you " Call on the name of the Lord", you come to Jesus with your heart in your hand and truly repent. If you are truly remorseful in your heart for your sinful nature and you tell God, he makes a promise to save you! If you have truly done this, know that you are forgiven / saved and stop beating yourself up
     
  13. Hello @Luis,

    Faith is not a matter of feeling but of faith: and faith comes by hearing. You have obviously heard the good news of salvation, through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you have believed that message. The problem seems to be that you had expected this to be accompanied by some, 'acknowledgement' from God, perhaps n the form of an emotion, a feeling, a reassurance, a peace, which was not there before.

    Faith is just believing that what God says He will surely do. You have believed, and you have asked the Lord Jesus Christ to be your Saviour, It is now a matter of feeding on the Word of God, by again, hearing and believing what God says, As you grow in grace and truth and the knowledge of God, peace and assurance comes, and the love of God becomes a living reality in your life, but it will not always be accompanied by anything that you can touch or see, it is simply a matter of believing and receiving by faith, and His grace will come as your grow in the knowledge of Him.

    Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
    and lean not unto your own understanding
    In all your ways acknowledge Him,
    and He will direct your paths.

    * Regarding your doubt in the validity of God's Word, because of what you have been told concerning the traditionally held belief concerning hell as a place of torment and eternal punishment. It is for you to search the Scriptures for yourself and learn the truth, not only of the original meaning of the word, but also what is said concerning what it is, and it's purpose. Do not take man's word concerning anything, but read the Bible for yourself, and only then will you have the assurance you crave.

    May God's will be fully done in you, for His Name and Glory's sake.

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
  14. Am I on the right thread? I believed in Jesus Christ with all of my heart. And I believed in the book of Revelation. There the mark of the beast is mentioned. I saw a feature film made by some American Christian group where they portray the mark of the Beast as represented in microchip implanted in the hand. The Antichrist forcing everyone to take the chip and true Christians refusing and dying because of it.
    I believed it and preached to others the truth of Revelation.
    Then I started receiving the sign from God. I would feel the pain in my hand as if something stung me and that was a sign of microchip meaning that some situation or people are bad for me. That lasted for two years, all the time it would sting me in the hand as if a microchip implant.
    After that, I started hearing voices that said that are of Christ King Almighty. The voices deluded me. I lived for four years in complete isolation listening to the voices and fighting Satan. Satan was attacking me everyday with his voice. He would enrage me, so I would become so furious that I was breaking furniture, tearing books, paintings of the wall. After that Satan's snake that worked inside of me enraged me to start beating myself. So I would beat myself in the face and head. I had a completely swollen and bruised face like for 20-30 times at least. Christ King Almighty allowed that so I can become true in Christ. I had to suffer as Christ suffered.
    After four years of that I ended up at the psychiatrist and was given heavy medication. And I was diagnosed with a psychosis - similar to schizophrenia but not quite.
    So, I lost faith in Jesus. Now, the voices are gone thanks to the antipsychotic medication. I want to believe in Christ but I can't anymore, not after everything I went through. How could Lord allow that if I believed in him? How can I believe again??
     
  15. Luis, post: 290639, member: 32806"]I am not born again. I have not received Jesus, and everyday, my belief in God fluctuates. I have gone to church, I have prayed for years, numerous times, I have cried asking for God to answer me. I have pushed myself to the limit asking to receive acknowledgement from God. The amount of times I have prayed is countless. And I am at the point where I feel like this is all a cruel joke. Not only have I never felt anything. I have such a hard time believing in Jesus. My mother, the person closest to me, doesnt believe in the Bible or Jesus. Yet she would stop on the side of the road to give someone a dollar, or risk her life for someone in need. Something most people would not do, and being told by a pastor that my mother would burn in hell for eternity because of what she believes in makes it virtually impossible for me to believe in anything the Bible states. The problem is, I dont want to give up. I want to feel what everyone else tells me they feel. I have been told by others that they hear the voice of God, or that they know God is there. I dont feel that, but I want to. I dont feel anything, but I want to. I want that happiness, i want that feeling. I just want God to be real. I am so lonely, and God never answers me. Every day I'm giving up more and more. I just want an answer, i want someone to explain to me why God has not acknowledged me. I always hear the same thing, to "wait" or to "keep having faith". But at this point I have nearly reached my limit. I am asking for not only prayers, but for any advice. Thanks[/QUOTE]

    Luis:
    First I want you to know that becoming a believer in God, His Son and the Holy Spirit is not a "cake walk". It is a very demanding time, a journey that once started is filled with doubts, sometimes fear, a magnitude of peace that finally arrives but can be fleeting. You will question yourself, others and often you will question God. This is normal and the fact that you are questioning the existence of God and His role in your life, tells me you have started this journey.

    So you are going to have low times and other times of great confidence. But before any of all the "wild ride" that is part of trusting God happens, you will need to make a decision. And this is it, even if God does not give you what you ask for, will you still trust Him? Can you lay down everything the world is shouting at you from media, music, television, movies and opinions...just put it away from you and embrace the quiet :) To answer your one concern about your Mom, you said she is a wonderful person but does not believe in God and because she does not a Pastor told you she would end up in Hell.

    First, God looks on us as His children and Jesus actually sees all of those who trust Him, believe in Him and live for Him as a part of His Bride. I know that's a bit heavy, but its true. So, if you were in God's shoes and your child did not believe you were their parent, didn't want to be loved by you, did not want to talk to you or know you, what choices do you have. You can't "Force" a relationship. And relationship is "key" with God. He wants to know about your day, He wants you to remember what His word says and apply it to your life, why? Because it is His "Safety Protocol". As a government asset, we have to follow "rules" and those rules are put in place for our well being and safety. If we ignore them, eventually we end up in harms way. The same is true of God's word, without it we will end up getting "sanctioned" by an enemy territory :)

    So your Mom, unknowingly has placed herself in that position and she is not alone in that. Many do not see the danger of flying solo. The other aspect about this is that God is totally clean, pure and Holy and He cannot be in the presence of anyone who is filthy in sin because His own Holy presence would turn them to dust. That is the "why" of Jesus, He came to be the intermediary between God and us. He took on all the wrongs, the murders, lies, thefts, perversion of sins on His own person, gave His blood and life as the ultimate sacrifice so that, "Anyone who believes" that He has done this and is the son of God, can have that relationship with God and NOT end up in Hell.

    Gosh, I know this is a lot to read and I really can sense that your heart is just broken; but I hope you can read it a couple of times and have courage son, be courageous and ask God to make clear all I have said to you. Trinity

     
  16. Hello Marcus,

    You were ill, horribly so, with delusions: but God cannot be blamed for that. Sickness, suffering, pain and death are the result of the entry of sin at the fall, when Adam and Eve chose to disobey God's known will.

    You have a mental illness, which is now being controlled by medication, for which you can thank God, Marcus.

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
  17. It might be that God sent me to see a psychatrist. Since I went there voluntarily and told them what was going on. I believed that God guided me through my life. There were so many strange coincidences that were to me the proof of God working in my life. But I didn't invent the microchip story. There actually is a Christian film saying the mark of the Beast is the microchip. Although believing that doesn't explain my hallucinations.
     
  18. Hello @markus,

    I know you were not inventing that, for I have read it before.

    All of these things are in God's hands, and we are also in His hands, aren't we? He will fulfil His promises in regard to both His prophetic Word, and to you and I, in Christ Jesus.

    Let your hallucinations go, Markus, for they are simply delusions related to your illness, whereas God's Word is trustworthy and true.

    Praise God!

    He is faithful.
    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
  19. I want to tell you to get born again.
    Also, keep reading and meditating on the Word of God. When His Word pops into your mind in some instances, that is He speaking to you. He shall speak to you through His Word.
     
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  20. Where is our friend, Luis? It's been 12 days, and he has only posted the one post. Let us pray that God touches his heart and takes him where he needs to be.
     
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