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SignUp Now!i am saved and have been saved along time , but i just want and desire a clser ,deeper relationship with jesus , ya see i love the lord and i want know how i can get closer to my master.ray:
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Though many feel that when they "accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior", that they now are "saved". However, what Jesus said, readjusted this thinking, for upon providing features of the "sign of his presence" (Matt 24:3, "presence", Greek pa·rou·si´a) that began when he was enthroned as king in 1914, said that "because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved."(Matt 24:12, 13)
Thus, only those who ' endure to the end (of this wicked system of things) in loyalty to God will be saved.' In addition, the Bible does not speak of ' walking with Jesus'. Rather we have an account of Noah, whereby Genesis 6:9 says that "Noah was a righteous man. He proved himself faultless among his contemporaries. Noah walked with the true God." Hence, Noah "walked with the true God" until his death at 950 years of age.(Gen 9:29)
Later Jacob, when on his deathbed, said of his father and grandfather: "The true God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the true God who has been shepherding me during all my existence until this day."(Gen 48:15) Jacob thus "walked (with) the true God" just as his grandfather Abraham and father Isaac had done.
Of Zechariah and Elizabeth, parents of John the Baptist, Luke 1:6 says that "they both were righteous before God because of walking blamelessly in accord with all the commandments and legal requirements of Jehovah."
These followed the examples of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in having "walked with the true God." Jesus himself "walked with the true God, " for at 1 Peter 2:21-23, Peter wrote that "In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving you a model for you to follow his steps closely. He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth. When he was being reviled, he did not go reviling in return. When he was suffering, he did not go threatening, but kept on committing himself to the one who judges righteously."
In answering a question of why he was so knowledgeable on the Scriptures, Jesus told the Jews: "What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him that sent me. If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching whether it is from God or I speak of my own originality."(John 7:16, 17) Furthermore, not long afterwards, he again told the Jews: "I have not come of my own initiative, but he that sent me is real, and you do not know him. I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me forth.” (John 7:28, 29)
In speaking with the woman at the well in Samaria, Jesus told her: "You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know....Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him."(John 4:22, 23) Thus, Jesus taught everyone how to ' walk with the true God', by telling the Samaritian woman to worship the Father, Jehovah God, in which he included himself in worshipping the Father.
Hence, a person can build a precious relationship with God by following Jesus perfect example of ' walking with the true God '. The apostle Paul wrote: "In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear."(Heb 5:7) Jesus "offered up supplications and also petitions to the One", Jehovah God, "who was able to save him out of death." In order to build a treasured relationship with God, we also have to ' offer up supplications and also petitions to the who is able to save us out of death', Jehovah God.(Isa 25:7, 8; Ps 65:2)
blessed07,
If you want a closer relationship "walk" with Jesus, Then pray (talk to him) and seek Him in His word.. Read the Bible to learn His voice. Follow the prompting of The Holy Spirit and your relationship with Him will grow sweeter every day.
Jaareshiah,
Your advice is rooted in error. It appears you are claiming Jesus is not God. That is a tenet of the Jehovah's Witness Cult (as is the 1914 invisible return of Jesus (michael the arch angel) to earth and proclaimed that the Jehovah's witness were the ONLY ones that He approved of)
Jesus is God. He did not invisibly return in 1914 and the lies of the watchtower will not help anyone have a closer relationship with Him.
You are preaching a false gospel of a mind control cult invented by a publishing company in brooklyn. Quoting the NWT (the Jehovah's witness bible) and twisting scripture to imply that Jesus is not God and one should only seek to walk with Jehovah. (the false god of the watchtower) is bad advice.
I need not respond to your personal vendetta against Jehovah's Witnesses. You are no different than most who make brought sweeping statements without a shred of solid evidence. Jesus himself walked with the "only true God", Jehovah, for he prayed on the night before his death: "Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, according as you have given him authority over all flesh, that, as regards the whole [number] whom you have given him, he may give them everlasting life. This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do."(John 17:1-4)
1881
Close of "high calling" to be among 144.000. Fall of Babylon. Proclaimers p632.
Replaced by 1918 in 1922?. Close of "high calling" later moved to 1935
1910
Expected rapture of the Saints, based on measurments in corridor in the Great Pyramid of Gizeh. SiS3, p364, versions issued before 1910.
Naturally abandoned after 1910
1914
The end of this world, Christ's literal return, the end of Armageddon and latest possible date for rapture. Jews expected to return to God's favour.
"Present truth" until the end of 1914, but replaced by 1915 from around 1912 to Aug 1914 (start of WWI, which was felt to somehow fulfill the above prophecies about 1914).
1914
Christ's invisible return, start of reign as King, end of last days. "Gentile times" ended, but this has no visible effect, except an (JW-imagined) increase in violence, wars, pestilence, earthquakes and other calamities since that year.
Current JW doctrine. From 1922 this was held to be start of Christ's *reign*, from 1930 also the start of invisible presence (earlier held to be 1874). [Note 2] Until recently, the WTS taught that some of those who experienced the events in 1914 would be alive to see the end of the world. This "1914 generation" doctrine was removed in November 1995. See WT 11/1 1995 p17. The "Creator's promise" about the end of the world before the 1914-generation died was removed from masthead (p4) of Awake! in 11/8 1995 issue. Whole idea of "generation" in Mt 24:34 being specific individuals is now abandoned.
1915
The end of the world. From ~1912 until start of WWI this year replaced 1914 in Russell's writings, since 2520 years from 606BC ends in 1915 not 1914 as Russell had thought. The fact that there is no zero year was "forgotten" when some events happened in 1914. In 1943 the idea that had been promoted in SiS7, namely to move Jerusalem's destruction from 606 to 607BC, was officially adopted (The fact that Jerusalem according to Bible chronology fell in 587BC does not interfere with Watchtower chronology.)
Year abandoned after start if WWI
1918
False religion, especially Christendom, to be destroyed. Demons would enter the minds of clergy, the "swine class", causing them to do stupid things that provokes "the masses" to destroy them. "Church members by millions" thus killed by God. SiS7 p128, 485.
Naturally abandoned after 1918
1918
Fall of Babylon, close of call to be among 144.000. This year is still held by JWs to be date for fall of Babylon, "all false religion." See Revelation Climax p260 which says "So by 1919 Babylon the Great had fallen".
Current JW doctrine. Close of "high calling" was later moved to 1935.
1919
The Bible Student/Watchtower movement chosen by Christ to be only "channel" of communication from God to men.
Current JW doctrine.
1920
Worldwide anarchy, collapse and fall of all earthly governments. SiS7 p258.
Naturally abandoned after 1920
1925
The end of the world immediately following the resurrection of "men of old" (Biblical heroes listed in Hebrews chapter 11). Establishment of Kingdom in Palestine. SiS7 p128, Millions p88,97. Very definite statements in WT 6/15 1922; 4/1 1923, elsewhere.
Naturally abandoned after 1925, even though the date itself was held to be somehow fixed in the Scriptures even as late as in 1931 (Vindication I p338).
1931/32
The "establishment of the Kingdom in Power." Based on Ezek 40:1, which dates a certain prophetic message to "the fourteenth year after the city was conquered", Rutherford added 14 years to 1918 to get 1932. See SiS7 p569. Later printings and translations of this book seems to have brought the realization that to get to the 14th year one adds 13, not 14, so the prophecy was changed to point to 1931.
Silently abandoned after the other prophecies, notably 1918 and 1925, failed to be fulfilled.
1935
Close of "high calling" to be of the 144.000. From this date, JWs have taught that the "great Company/Crowd" in Rev 7 will live on Earth, not in heaven. The "Great Crowd", all JWs except ~8000 living now, is not considered anointed Christians, is not "born again," do not partake in communion and does not have Christ as mediator. They expect eternal life on Earth. See WT 6/15 1992 p23; Proclaimers (1993) p166. This date is justified only on the fact that the doctrine about earthly hope for "great crowd" was created in 1935.
Current JW doctrine
~1941
WW2 was expected to end in Armageddon, God's War. WT 9/15 1941 p288 talked about the "remaining months before Armageddon."
Idea abandoned in 1943, after death of Rutherford, when the Watchtower Society started to proclaim a "very short" period of peace after WWII.
1951
This was 37 years after 1914, like Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD, which was 37 years after Christ's death (WTS chronology). Some WT articles in 1950 hinted strongly to this parallell. WT 11/1 1950 p407; 9/1 1950 p277; compare WT 3/15 1951 p179 and 4/1 1951 p214 both pointing out that "we are 37 years into the 'time of the end' of this world."
Idea was abandoned in WT 9/1 1952 p542
1954
Theoretical length of 1914-generation after the old "30-40 years" definition. See WT 9/1 1952 p542. "Generation" idea based on Matt 24:34, but it was finally abandoned in WT Nov 1, 1995.
Replaced by 70-80 year generation in 1952
1975
End of 6000 year of human history after WTS chronology. Strongly hinted to be end of the world; could only be a matter of "days and months, not years" before Armageddon. Life Everlasting p26-30; WT 7/15 1967 p446-7; 8/15 1968 p499; 5/1 1975 p 285. See also YB 1980 p30-31. (See What Happened in 1975?)
Abandoned and sometimes even denied after 1975
1984
Object for much speculation about maximum length of generation, based on 70 years from 1914 and Psalm 90:10. See WT 9/1 1952 p542; WT 12/1 1968 p715.
Abandoned silently as date approached.
1986
Declared by United Nations to be "International Year of Peace," which caused much expectations with JWs about the expected declaration of "peace and security", a sign of the imminent end based on a special interpretation of 1Th 5:3. WT 10/1 1985 p18.
Silently forgotten after 1986
1994
Object for much speculation about maximum length of generation, like 1984. See WT 9/1 1952 p542; WT 12/1 1968 p715.
Abandoned silently as date approached.
2000
End of world expected to come before end of century. WT 1/1 1989 p12 (work to be completed "in our 20th century", text changed in bound volume); WT 10/15 1980 p31 ("highly improbable" that this world continues to 2000); 3/1 1984 p18-19 ("end much closer than [2000]").
(source:Jan Hugland).