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So on Judgement day everyone does not show up with a fair chance of heaven?Hell -- is the 'holding place' until they get to the great White Throne Judgement -- and then they go to their Final place for eternity / the lake of fire and brimstone. Those are different places and times.
What does " accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior" entail? Verbally announcing that He is your God and baptism? Trusting and loving Him with all your heart? Repentance and sincerity? How can anyone NOT do and feel those things? How can people choose anything but Jesus? I don't get it. I met a nice enough guy not too long ago and he shook my hand and said " Hi, are you a Christian?" I said "Well actually yes, yes I am! Are you?" I was about to enjoy fellowship with this guy, and he smiled and casually says," No, I'm a satan worshipper." GULP...in my head ' WWJD? WWJD? WWJD?'We make our choice NOW. After that -- if a person dies without accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior -- there are no second chances.
Our 'fair chance of heaven' is Not based on our good works. It Is based on accepting Jesus Christ as our personal Savior or Not doing that.
Relying on our 'good' works will get us a one-way ticket to hell. As per Ephesians 2:8 - 9 "not of works, lest any one should boast" -- it's where we place our Faith that matters.
What does " accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior" entail? Verbally announcing that He is your God and baptism? Trusting and loving Him with all your heart? Repentance and sincerity? How can anyone NOT do and feel those things? How can people choose anything but Jesus? I don't get it. I met a nice enough guy not too long ago and he shook my hand and said " Hi, are you a Christian?" I said "Well actually yes, yes I am! Are you?" I was about to enjoy fellowship with this guy, and he smiled and casually says," No, I'm a satan worshipper." GULP...in my head ' WWJD? WWJD? WWJD?'
I said, " Well that is very interesting, you know Jesus loves you anyways. Remember that. I've gotta get going." get away !get away! Begone!
was not expecting that! people can say what they would've done different but when the energy shifts, you just react.
I would rather be dead than live without Christ.No friend it's not a drama. Jesus hates it when someone declares he/she loves Jesus but actually not have any feeling for Him. Actually it's an hypocrisy. The truth is every thing in this world has two surface good or bad. When we choose good we worship God, when we choose bad we worship Satan because we do what they say. And yes choosing good doesn't solely include good works only but it actually means the WILL OF GOD. Because God is good.
Seriously I was in heavy depression, and I eventually discovered Jesus is the only way to life.. Words cannot describe how I was being relieved by Him.
And yes, no one can do it unless he feel it.
Yes to an extent except that I don't think Satan's goal is to have our company- it is more about preventing us from gaining what he feels should rightfully belong to him that we ' minions' are unworthy of. He sees us as an inferior race, stupid and gullible. Small and petty. So far many of us have proven him right and made his work fairly easy. What gets me are these ignorant celebrities, trading their souls for 15 minutes of fame and a couple trinkets and how mankind idolizes these people in envy when there is nothing in this world I would trade my soul for ( and I pray that I am not.) I do struggle with an addiction that I am trying to gain control over. It convicts me night and day but I am striving for holiness continually otherwise. I know it's one or the other, but...
Thank you. I feel He is working with me, but He is very quiet. Where other people say that " God told me to do this or that," God does not speak to me like that, or audibly where I hear Him so I don't know if I am doing something wrong.Well -- whatever satans goal is -- what questions do You still have? We All struggle with something -- that doesn't mean we aren't Really born again. No one will be perfect while here on earth. But , as a born again believer, we Do have the Holy Spirit to help us in those problem areas. He's working with me in a particular area.
Rationalising hell and punishment is good. We must be do it. Christians can judge matters 1 Cor 6:1-9. Definitely sentencing. God will not do anything we disagree with.If people are in hell for eternity, why would they get out on Judgement Day only to be recast into hell? Could some of them have learned their lesson or been punished enough and be judged differently? Maybe they just fell short and have served their time?
You read into what is said and reply as though you did not read what was said. I can only discuss with you if you quote me.@KingJ -- what do you mean by "God will not do anything we disagree with"?
No one is going to 'love' being in hell. Once a person Gets there -- of Course they'll want out -- but they will be Staying there Forever.
How about This -- God's Word is the authority -- we are to agree with That.
"The thought of sending people to heaven after a period of hell is logical and rational". That sounds a lot like the RCC belief in purgatory. But that certainly Not Scriptural.
So -- a period of time in hell is supposed to 'sufficiently rehabilitate' a person to be acceptable for heaven. NOT Biblical.
Maybe you should reconsider what Scripture is Really Saying.
Thank you for quoting me here. This I can reply to as I actually said that.
As I have said many times to you Sue, I would greatly appreciate it if you would quote me.@KingJ -- how about 'this' Romans -- for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And the wages of sin is death,
Our righteousnesses are like filthy rags to God. Ephesians 2 :8-9 "not of works lest any man should boast".
A person can 'land' on a few Scriptures that say what "he" wants to hear, and ignore the rest of Scripture. That's what you tend to do.
How about the passage that says that our hearts are easily deceived and desperately wicked. That does not mean that everyone is gong to be an axe murderer. But we All have the leanings towards sin. Because 'for All have sinned'.
And, of Course you actually type what you mean to say. No one puts words in your mouth. If you really believe what you're saying -- then you are living in a spiritual 'bubble' of your own making.
Everyone Deserves hell / the future lake of fire and brimstone -- no one Deserves eternity with God / heaven. But God shows His love towards us --in that -- while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. We didn't have to do anything to deserve the cross of Christ. We're not told to 'clean up our act' in order to benefit from the blood of Christ. We're Far more inclined to Be 'dirty rotten sinners' Than to be 'good people' in God's eyes.
God destroyed Sodom and Gohmorrah. -- Genesis 19 follows chapter 18. // 19vs 24 -- the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah and vs 29.
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