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Having very tough time trusting GOD now

ritambh

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I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.
 
I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.
Young friend, let me suggest a couple of things to consider. Sometimes God’s answer to our prayer is “No”, and if so, it is for a good reason. You may not know the reason, but if you are a child of God, I assure you that there is a reason. A second thing to consider it, did you omit proper study for the test, and expect God to miraculously cause you to pass? I have many times in life prayed with wrong motive.

Another thing to consider, with some of our prayers, God may be saying, “No, not now, but later.” For a number of years, I prayed to God to match me with a suitable friend and companion. The answer did not come immediately, but when the answer came, it was far more wonderful than I ever could have imagined. So many details fell into place how God was working things out for my friend and I, in ways that made it a perfect match. I met him online 30 years ago, and we remain faithfully together, and we are celebrating that this month!

So, keep your faith in our Savior, Jesus Christ, God does not fail his children, even if we don’t always understand at the time.
 
Young friend, let me suggest a couple of things to consider. Sometimes God’s answer to our prayer is “No”, and if so, it is for a good reason. You may not know the reason, but if you are a child of God, I assure you that there is a reason. A second thing to consider it, did you omit proper study for the test, and expect God to miraculously cause you to pass? I have many times in life prayed with wrong motive.

Another thing to consider, with some of our prayers, God may be saying, “No, not now, but later.” For a number of years, I prayed to God to match me with a suitable friend and companion. The answer did not come immediately, but when the answer came, it was far more wonderful than I ever could have imagined. So many details fell into place how God was working things out for my friend and I, in ways that made it a perfect match. I met him online 30 years ago, and we remain faithfully together, and we are celebrating that this month!

So, keep your faith in our Savior, Jesus Christ, God does not fail his children, even if we don’t always understand at the time.
That might be true.
But there were many right motives for which I was praying to - like breaking my adult content addiction, my severe depression and stupid thoughts that come to my brain all the time.
I wanted Jesus to remove them too but did not work for me.
I cannot fight too much like a warrior to get rid of these temptations thats why i asked God for help.
Its been more than a year yet my addictions are same. Even though I broke it for one month with drugs, but after I stopped taking them my addictions came back. These drugs also make me feel terrible.

Regarding study, I did gave my best to study, I am weak in maths so I asked god to help me, but i did not got any help.
But i would say he does miraculously make me pass in some subjects that I thought i could not pass. Anyway, this time he did not help me.

Its good that you met your friend online, but you know sometimes we need people at the time when we are lowest, I have no one to talk to, and the ones I talk with all have selfish motives.
 
I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.
I've come to learn in my walk in this life when them doors close it's for a reason there is a door opening but we can't see it this is when
Be still and know I am God comes in at is your trust in the world giving you payment for your time or is your trust in the Lord n trusting He knows what He is doing?

I waited patiently for the Lord; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry.
He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

Just because we decide on a path doesn't necessarily mean it's the path we will wind up taking..

Hope ya r finding some peace in your storm

♡⁠(⁠Ӧ⁠v⁠Ӧ⁠。⁠)
 
That might be true.
But there were many right motives for which I was praying to - like breaking my adult content addiction, my severe depression and stupid thoughts that come to my brain all the time.
I wanted Jesus to remove them too but did not work for me.
I cannot fight too much like a warrior to get rid of these temptations thats why i asked God for help.
Its been more than a year yet my addictions are same. Even though I broke it for one month with drugs, but after I stopped taking them my addictions came back. These drugs also make me feel terrible.

Regarding study, I did gave my best to study, I am weak in maths so I asked god to help me, but i did not got any help.
But i would say he does miraculously make me pass in some subjects that I thought i could not pass. Anyway, this time he did not help me.

Its good that you met your friend online, but you know sometimes we need people at the time when we are lowest, I have no one to talk to, and the ones I talk with all have selfish motives.
R, it sounds to me like you need to consult with a competent psychologist who holds at least a Masters Degree. Do not waste your time on the so-called Christian Counselors for they may harm you instead of helping. I am understanding your situation more than you can know. You are carrying quite a heavy load, a tough burden. Our emotional, mental situation can become so out of sync that it hinders our spiritual side of life.

Who prescribed the medication for you that made you feel so terrible? Was it psychiatrist or a General Practioner who is like what we call a Primary Care physician. At my age, I take numerous medications and occasionally, a medication either does not work, or the side effects are so bad my doctor changed my prescription to another drug. If you have severe depression, that needs to be taken care of as soon as possible.

I will suggest another approach to you. We do need our spiritual side tended to and often it is not our own Pastor who is suitable for that. Maybe contact several other Pastors in your area where you can hopefully find a compassionate man to listen to your plea for help. I will tell you a major mistake well-meaning Pastors often make. Two passages are often thrown at people, and are taken totally out of context. I’ll give the two and explain what they pertain to.

“I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.” (Phil 4:13, KJV) This is a misused verse that can make you more depressed! I thank God for the Puritans who were spiritually wise men of God. Matthew Poole clarifies the meaning of this verse: “we are not to understand it absolutely, but restrictively to the subject matter he had before mentioned in the precedent verses, intimating he could by the Lord’s help use well both prosperity and adversity: or, all those things the Lord called him to and put him upon. Not, as the papists urge, that any mere man since the fall is able in this life perfectly to keep the commandments of God.” That verse is meant to be understood in its context.

13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.” (1Cor 10:13-14, KJV)

Religious ‘do-gooders’ love to quote v13, but they totally ignore the context which is summed up in v14. This is talking about fleeing from idolatry, avoid being seduced by the idols. Keep you eyes on Jesus instead of your perceived sexual additions. Take Jesus’ words to heart: “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” (Matt 11:28-30, KJV) Remember, the Apostle Paul struggled with sin also, read Romans 7, beginning at v14. Notice the answer given by Paul:

“O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.” (Rom 7:24-25; 8:1-2 KJV)

I understand you watch pornography probably along with a lot of naughty hand work. Apparently, you are not going out chasing down every man or woman you can find willing to have sex with you. So, at 23-years-of-age, you are probably not too far off what is typical. I’m not making light of sexual sin, but in our day, when the modern translations have substituted “sexual immorality” in the place of “fornication”, religious hypocrites will put things in the sexually immoral that you won’t find in the Bible. Far too often, the preachers, teachers who demand overly strict sexual practice, are secretly the worse offenders. I’m going to send another Reply next with help from another Puritan. But, keep the following in mind from the words of King David.

“For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him. For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.” (Ps 103:11-14, KJV) Read the entire Psalm.
 
That might be true.
But there were many right motives for which I was praying to - like breaking my adult content addiction, my severe depression and stupid thoughts that come to my brain all the time.
I wanted Jesus to remove them too but did not work for me.
I cannot fight too much like a warrior to get rid of these temptations thats why i asked God for help.
Its been more than a year yet my addictions are same. Even though I broke it for one month with drugs, but after I stopped taking them my addictions came back. These drugs also make me feel terrible.

Regarding study, I did gave my best to study, I am weak in maths so I asked god to help me, but i did not got any help.
But i would say he does miraculously make me pass in some subjects that I thought i could not pass. Anyway, this time he did not help me.

Its good that you met your friend online, but you know sometimes we need people at the time when we are lowest, I have no one to talk to, and the ones I talk with all have selfish motives.
R. the following is by the Puritan Thomas Brooks (1608-1680), and it is in his book “Precious
Remedies Against Satan’s Devices”. I’ll give you the URL so you can read the book for more wise advice and help.

“God has nowhere engaged himself by any particular promise, that souls converted and united to Christ shall not fall again and again into the same sin after conversion. I cannot find in the whole book of God where he has promised any such strength or power against this or that particular sin, as that the soul should be forever, in this life, put out of a possibility of falling again and again into the same sins. And where God has not a mouth to speak, I must not have a heart to believe. God will graciously pardon those sins to his people, which he will not in this life totally subdue in his people. I have never seen a promise in Scripture, which says that when our sorrow and grief has been so great, or so much, for this or that sin—that then God will preserve us from ever falling into the same sin. The sight of such a promise would be as life from the dead to many a precious soul, who desires nothing more than to keep close to Christ, and fears nothing more than backsliding from Christ.

In some cases the saints have found God better than his word. He promised the children of Israel only the land of Canaan; but besides that he gave them two other kingdoms which he never promised. And to Zacharias he promised to give him his speech at the birth of the child—but besides that he gave him the gift of prophecy.” From page 106
Precious Remedies Against Satan's Devices

Where do you worship God, and the Lord Jesus Christ? What denomination or group name? Are there many Christians and houses of worship in your area of India? I generally avoid the private message feature on this Forum, but if you wish to write in a manner not suitable for this open Forum, I will communicate with you, the best that I can. I’m 83-years-of-age this month, so I’ve witnessed a lot over the years. Also, I have experienced much over my life which began right after WWII. I joke that I am a Pearl Harbor baby, being born 9 months after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

I have quoted from the KJV, since I know you’d use British English, but if you wish that I quote from a modern translation from the UK, I can use the Revised English Bible. I’ll close at this and pray that God through Christ comes to your aid and lifts your burden which I weighing you down.
 
I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.
One thing being careful how we hear who we say we do..

The 1 John 2 reference seems to be say .Jesus and his father pray to both. But we know it the powerless. The Son of man Jesus cries for power to do the will. The Father and Son identity, The use of two working as one. The invisible Holy Father revealed using the temporal historical to unravel the mystery of the parables,

John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Deny the temporal historic Jesus as an outward sign of an invisible Holy Father. . . deny both the sign and the sign giver
Mark 12:36

For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Or the Lord as my Lord as that . . said and not Lord said to my Lord. It would seem to make more of a faithful spiritual sense (the unseen eternal) understanding

Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus (the Christ not Jesus the Son of man) whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

No. . can open new doors. He knows the gifts you desire training you to master self control the fruit of his Spirit as it is written
 
I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.

God is impartial Acts 10:24 and will not change who He is for any one of us. The sooner you understand that the sooner you can stop trying to manipulate Him like your personal genie in a bottle.

God supports us studying and earning our pass mark. He has already given you a brain, eyes, hands and time. Now you want Him to use them for you? What idiocy!

I have also been a victim of this thinking.
 
God is impartial Acts 10:24 and will not change who He is for any one of us. The sooner you understand that the sooner you can stop trying to manipulate Him like your personal genie in a bottle.

God supports us studying and earning our pass mark. He has already given you a brain, eyes, hands and time. Now you want Him to use them for you? What idiocy!

I have also been a victim of this thinking.
Your reply is the real idiocy here. A person who is a young Christian, whose struggle in his life and relationship to the Heavenly Father is quite serious to him. This person does not need your type of critical response when you know nothing of his personal circumstances.

and he said to him, "You know that it is against the law for a Jew to associate with a foreigner [Gentile] or to visit one, but God has taught me not to call any man vulgar or ceremonially unclean; (Act 10:28 Williams)

The partiality of the Jews is what is the concern here, as Jews had such a negative view of the Gentiles. You have no support to identify your past “thinking” with this young man when you do not know anything about him more than what he has posted.
 
It sounds like your perception of the Holy Word had been hijacked by the synagogue of Satan. It certainly happened to me, which is why I post this. It definitely happened to Eve back in Eden. It happens. Now do not compare, but instead consider Job's situation, and what Christ went through. What is the essential goal you must achieve? Being with Christ. Always.

I myself am in as much hardship like far too many in the world right at this moment - and some are also in worse pain, even wondering if they have been forsaken by God. ... You know... like Jesus Christ Himself asked aloud on the terrible cross.

Christ knows what betrayal is, and hunger, and surviving in the bad places, and being beset on all sides by absolute evil while carrying so much responsibility on His bleeding shoulders. So much to do, so little time, with so very few people even acknowledging His PERFECT efforts for your benefit at this moment. Count your blessings. Venting via this website is a blessing, too.

There are parables about talents and skills, and there are awful things compounding our struggles to do more. But rich and poor alike will have to meet their Maker and answer to eternal justice for their behavior. And the only way to get things done correctly is through the grace of Christ, the Way, the Truth, the Life. It is not by your intellect or your physical strength, but through the Love of God that you experience healing and peace and true prosperity. Christ has overcome the world.

Seek Him first. He will show you what to do. Peace.
 
God is impartial Acts 10:24 and will not change who He is for any one of us. The sooner you understand that the sooner you can stop trying to manipulate Him like your personal genie in a bottle.

God supports us studying and earning our pass mark. He has already given you a brain, eyes, hands and time. Now you want Him to use them for you? What idiocy!

I have also been a victim of this thinking.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
。⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠。
 
I was praying to Jesus and his father since 1.5 years. I had an exam coming up and prayed earnestly to Jesus so that I may pass that exam. But I failed that exam for getting 7 marks less.
Now my trust with God has been broken, its like God just simply doesnt care whether you pass or fail in exam, whether you get a job or not, whether you are happy or sad.
God does nothing to help me.
In the book of Church fathers - almost everyone says isolate yourself from the world, pray day and night. But to do that i have to live in the jungle and not in the world.
I cannot study or do any work anymore, I got overly depressed and thinking about suicide as nobody cares including God. My life is ruined.
Jesus said - sell everything to the poor yet he also said let her pour the exprensive perfume on his head. Poor will always have with you.
It is clear jesus left me in the dark.
You left yourself in the dark!
Shalom
 
Your reply is the real idiocy here. A person who is a young Christian, whose struggle in his life and relationship to the Heavenly Father is quite serious to him. This person does not need your type of critical response when you know nothing of his personal circumstances.

and he said to him, "You know that it is against the law for a Jew to associate with a foreigner [Gentile] or to visit one, but God has taught me not to call any man vulgar or ceremonially unclean; (Act 10:28 Williams)

The partiality of the Jews is what is the concern here, as Jews had such a negative view of the Gentiles. You have no support to identify your past “thinking” with this young man when you do not know anything about him more than what he has posted.

I honestly roflmao when I read that a 5 point Calvinist disagrees on impartiality. :D:D:D

Your entire belief teaches that He is partial. You do not address my accusations of your belief. You do not care that you incriminate God as monstrously evil.

When you do, I will take posts from you on other matters a bit more seriously ;).
 
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
。⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠。

Oh I completely agree. Without love we do not get through to anyone. The terrible error you are making though is to think that love is only talking nicely and saying things people want to hear.

Love is taking the 1. time to share the 2. truth.

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What many well intentioned Christians (which is what you are) don't always grasp is that to a sinner, there is simply no nice way of saying 'stop it'.
 
I honestly roflmao when I read that a 5 point Calvinist disagrees on impartiality. :D:D:D

Your entire belief teaches that He is partial. You do not address my accusations of your belief. You do not care that you incriminate God as monstrously evil.

When you do, I will take posts from you on other matters a bit more seriously ;).
If you took the time to read the definition of impartial in an English dictionary, then possibly you would not display your total ignorance of the doctrine of Unconditional Election, or Unmerited Election, for all to see.

Unconditional Election is the doctrine that God chooses certain individuals for salvation prior to their conversion, based solely on His own sovereign will and grace, not on any foreseen faith, good works, or merit in those individuals. This choice is made independently of any conditions or qualities inherent in the person.

To be based on God’s grace, independently of any conditions in the person, is to be truly impartial, thus “Unconditional Election”.

From Martin Luther:

“And it is this very state of the truth, that of necessity proves "Free will" to be nothing at all; seeing that, the love and hatred of God towards men is immutable and eternal; existing, not only before there was any merit or work of "Free-will," but before the worlds were made; and that, all things take place in us from necessity, accordingly as He loved or loved not from all eternity. So that, not the love of God only, but even the manner of His love imposes on us necessity. Here then it may be seen, how much its invented ways of escape profit the Diatribe; for the more it attempts to get away from the truth, the more it runs upon it; with so little success does it fight against it!” Section 101
The Bondage of the Will

Westminster Confession of Faith, Presbyterian
“Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to his eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of his will, hath chosen in Christ, unto everlasting glory, out of his mere free grace and love, without any foresight of faith or good works, or perseverance in either of them, or any other thing in the creature, as conditions, or causes moving him thereunto; and all to the praise of his glorious grace.” III. Para. 5

The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith
“Those of mankind that are predestinated to life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to His eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of His will, hath chosen in Christ unto everlasting glory, out of His mere free grace and love, without any other thing in the creature as a condition or cause moving Him thereunto.”

It truly amazes me how eagerly most evangelicals are today ready, to cast away a major point of the Protestant Reformation, to agree with the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church!
 
If you took the time to read the definition of impartial in an English dictionary, then possibly you would not display your total ignorance of the doctrine of Unconditional Election, or Unmerited Election, for all to see.

Unconditional Election is the doctrine that God chooses certain individuals for salvation prior to their conversion, based solely on His own sovereign will and grace, not on any foreseen faith, good works, or merit in those individuals. This choice is made independently of any conditions or qualities inherent in the person.

To be based on God’s grace, independently of any conditions in the person, is to be truly impartial, thus “Unconditional Election”.

From Martin Luther:

“And it is this very state of the truth, that of necessity proves "Free will" to be nothing at all; seeing that, the love and hatred of God towards men is immutable and eternal; existing, not only before there was any merit or work of "Free-will," but before the worlds were made; and that, all things take place in us from necessity, accordingly as He loved or loved not from all eternity. So that, not the love of God only, but even the manner of His love imposes on us necessity. Here then it may be seen, how much its invented ways of escape profit the Diatribe; for the more it attempts to get away from the truth, the more it runs upon it; with so little success does it fight against it!” Section 101
The Bondage of the Will

Westminster Confession of Faith, Presbyterian
“Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to his eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of his will, hath chosen in Christ, unto everlasting glory, out of his mere free grace and love, without any foresight of faith or good works, or perseverance in either of them, or any other thing in the creature, as conditions, or causes moving him thereunto; and all to the praise of his glorious grace.” III. Para. 5

The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith
“Those of mankind that are predestinated to life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to His eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of His will, hath chosen in Christ unto everlasting glory, out of His mere free grace and love, without any other thing in the creature as a condition or cause moving Him thereunto.”

It truly amazes me how eagerly most evangelicals are today ready, to cast away a major point of the Protestant Reformation, to agree with the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church!
As a Messianic Jew I am not a fan of any of the above things you mentioned. I am a fan of the Old and New Covenants.
Shalom Aleichem
 
As a Messianic Jew I am not a fan of any of the above things you mentioned. I am a fan of the Old and New Covenants.
Shalom Aleichem
Every so-called Messianic Jew I’ve ever witnessed was actually a Judaizer like those Paul fought against in Galatians! A family member, entangled in the Christian Zionism tripe, sent me a book and DVD by Jonathan Cahn, and he is not only a Judaizer, he is a complete fraudulent prophecy teacher.
 
Oh I completely agree. Without love we do not get through to anyone. The terrible error you are making though is to think that love is only talking nicely and saying things people want to hear.

Love is taking the 1. time to share the 2. truth.

--------------------------

What many well intentioned Christians (which is what you are) don't always grasp is that to a sinner, there is simply no nice way of saying 'stop it'.
Ya there's a way to approached one.. I just don't get the I gotta be nasty n mean n arrogant to make myself feel better personality..
Lord tells us what you have done to the Least of mine you have done unto me.

ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ
 
You are entitled to your opinion of him. This Jonathan Cahn is an author for Inspiration Ministries
which is a merchant of the prosperity Gospel and the leader of that organization is David Cerullo
who is a pentecostalist. However, Jonathan Cahn is a Messianic Jew and rabbi at the Beth Israel Worship Center
near Wayne New Jersey. They are affiliated IAMCS International Alliance of Messianic Congregations and
Synagogues which is also affiliated with the MJAA Messianic Jewish Alliance of America which as been
around since 1915. These are well respected Messianic Jewish organizations with accountability which
I endorse. Jonathan Cahn is a well known and respected author.
Shalom Aleichem
 
You are entitled to your opinion of him. This Jonathan Cahn is an author for Inspiration Ministries
which is a merchant of the prosperity Gospel and the leader of that organization is David Cerullo
who is a pentecostalist. However, Jonathan Cahn is a Messianic Jew and rabbi at the Beth Israel Worship Center
near Wayne New Jersey. They are affiliated IAMCS International Alliance of Messianic Congregations and
Synagogues which is also affiliated with the MJAA Messianic Jewish Alliance of America which as been
around since 1915. These are well respected Messianic Jewish organizations with accountability which
I endorse. Jonathan Cahn is a well known and respected author.
Shalom Aleichem
Everyone has an opinion the Lords ways are written..

God is not an organization He is about His people His family those who carry His light in Him

How can one claim to Love God being in God n follow His ways n then go around n being mean n nasty towards others that in itself is hypocritical..

In case ya didn't now NJ n Philly are major stomping grounds for the Eastern stars n the Masons..

There are many temples to the god of the dead too just most call them a church.. quite a few Temples in the areas also groom the young woman to dress up to draw men in..
The one temple got a dead body buried under the pews of it claiming it's some saint n he protecting them..


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Very sad what's happening
 
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