The baptism in the Holy Ghost is a crisis experience just as our initial conversion experience was. We cannot be gradually baptized in the Holy Spirit, just as we cannot be gradually baptized in water. Certainly we can be gradually filled with God's Spirit, but one day that "filling" will spill over into a baptism or complete immersion in the Holy Ghost. Many believe they need not ask for this experience because they think they receive the Holy Spirit at conversion. While this is true in the sense that the Holy Spirit comes upon us, and in us, to plant the seed of life in Christ, it is not true that we are completely filled with His Spirit unless we ask for it. "...How much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" (Luke 11:13).
Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
So in regards to the statement in bold in that quote from Chad above, how can a believer apply this warning below?
2 Corinthians 11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
So is it wrong to continually seek a supernatural filling of the Holy Spirit apart from salvation or not? I am not sure how any believer can apply that warning when seeing to receive Jesus or the Holy Spirit again.
Then you have this verse that says we are filled as a testimony that we are saved.
Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
To suggest that we need a continual filling is to deny we are a new creature and thus new wine bottle able to hold the new wine hence the Holy Spirit.
A verse often misused for rebuttal;
Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Ephesians 5:18 is just a call to be sober; to remain in the fruit of the Spirit which is temperance also known as self control. We are accountable by what we sow towards; the works of the flesh or the fruits of the Spirit. So it stands to reason why we are always filled with the Spirit because we are still in this sinful flesh as being always filled goes to our testimony that we are saved so we can tell others the Good News of Jesus Christ to a sinful world.
Since scripture cannot go against scripture, then applying Ephesians 5:18 as meaning a continual supernatural refilling of the Holy Spirit would oppose the plain truth in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 warning to not preach such a thing.
Here at TalkJesus, it should be about Jesus Christ, the Son of God, but to take our eyes off of Him to the "Spirit" in opening oneself up to receive "more" of the Holy Spirit is after the rudiment of the world in how they seek continually in receiving spirits, is it not? It is hardly keeping our eyes on the Son as filled and thus saved believers in Jesus Christ.
Does any one see my concern here?
If we are to not believe every spirit but test them ( 1 John 4:1-6 ), and it has been prophesied that some shall depart from faith in giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils ( 1 Timothy 4:1-2 ) and that test of our faith that Jesus Christ is in us ( 2 Corinthians 13:5 ), then seeking to receive Him again even in a continually filling sense, cannot be of the gospel, but of the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world.
John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
I do not see how there can be any impartiality in that, but if any one can make all those scriptures align without opposing the truth in one another, be my guest, but I doubt that any one can ease my concern for that kind of preaching when it clearly appears to me as going against the traditions taught of us as Paul reminded believers when they had received the Holy Spirit which was at the calling of the gospel when they had believed in Him and no other time. 2 Thessalonians 2:13-15
That is why there can be no other calling: Ephesians 4:4-6 God in us fully is the testimony as saved; Ephesians 1st chapter at that link below; do note the last verse 23, please.
Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 1 - King James Version