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Gensis 1:2 The verse reads in the original Hebrew Manuscripts, "The earth "became" ( In Hebrew "tohu va bohu") void and without form." Evrrything God creates is Righteous,Good, and Clean! God is a "God of the Living" not the dead. When He created earth everything was alive. He doesn't create evil. (In the 1611 King James Version Bible, the translators warn to be careful because they made mistakes although they did the best they could.) The word " evil" God doesn't create "evil", the word should be "tumult" meaning trouble. God disrupts and causes trouble for wicked people, hopefully bringing them to repentance. The Bible teaches that there are, II Peter 3:5,12,13, three Earth and Heaven Ages: The Eternal Past, ( during the past is when Lucifer became "the angel of death". God is the vine we are the branches When a branch severs itself from Life it dies. Lucifer was the covering cherub guarding the Mercy Seat until by his pride he stopped worshiping God and worshipped himself instead this is when he died, spiritually. God changed his name to satan; he and his evil angels, are already judged by God. Like the zombies, in reverse people who have seperated themselves from Jesus are spiritually dead. Jesus called them " white sepulchres " (tombs) they look pretty on the outside but inside are rotting corpses. Like the Nazis, etc. After "the Catabal" , "the casting down" from Heaven these "evil ones: satan, and his demonic angels, " the Nephilim" . Gen. God created us in His Image, "Elohim, Jesus and the Angels" We look like them they look like us. Jesus walked in the Garden of Eden during the cool of the evenings with Adam, and later Eve. Jesus talked to them. Satan also walked about on the earth" like a roaring lion seeing who he could devour." In Jude, the Bible says the end times when the anti-Christ is here, it will be like the days of Noe ( Noah), men having sex with demonic angels. ( Like in Sodom and Gomorrah when deminic angels taught people to be sexually depraved, homosexual, child/ baby rapests, beastiality, etc. This is why it's a sin for men to wear long hair, not to even touch their collar. Because men will have to resist these demonic angels during the 5 months , they are here (shortened to 2 1/2 months for the sake of the Elect.) Also long hair is a form of corruption to a man, it makes him effeminate, and is an act of rebellion against God. Women can wear long hair without it corrupting their morals. ) before Noah's flood. Noah's flood wasn't the first flood God sent. Also there was a great shaking of the Earth, by God, a global earthquake. All this happened in the first Earth and Heaven Age, this is also when the dinosaurs lived.
These things occurred because of the war between satan and his army, and God's Army, the Lord's Legion of Hosts, of untold number. Jesus says if His angels, soldiers, are not enough; Jesus can turn every grain of sand, on all the beaches of the world, into a soldier, each grain. Do a word study of "cherubim" ( Ezk. 28: 11-19) they are 3 Generals of God's Army, they are also called Princes, Lucifer is called the counterfeit, prince of the mourning. (satan is the prince of Tyre).
and the" fallen" from Heaven, fallen away from God. Were here on earth and were depraved, without a conscience, amoral. The "mighty men of renowned" that are famous for their filthy, depravity. They were born as a result of earth women having sex with evil angels. Hercules is mentioned in the Bible, but not by name, he was the giant who had a bet with the (king of salem?) To clean the 1,000 stalls, in the king's stable, in one day. Hercules won his bet. Goliath and his brothers were 14 feet tall. The kenites of Rev. 2:7-9 and 3: 7-9 are Jewish imposters pretending to be Jewish, but really of the synagogue of satan! 1Cor.2:55; 1 John3:15;Gen. 4:1-2; Gen. 3:16; John 8:44. In Gen. Eve "again" laboured and produced Abel. Cain and Abel were twins, but with different father's Adam was NOT Cain's biological son. satan had sex with both Adam and Eve, she became pregnant by both of them. Cain is not listed in Adam's genealogy. Read 2 Cor. 11:3,13,14 The Bible says " the serpent beguiled Eve. " beguiled" means wholly seduced. Cain went to the land of the Nod, the Nomads, and lived with them and had biological children. Look up in the Strong's Hebrew Dictionary #7017 sons of Cain, "patron" is an abbreviation of paternal ancestors, and means "offspring", biological children. These are the
evil countries who throughout history have wanted to destroy Israel and all the 12 tribes of Israel, including the tribe of Judah, the lineage of kings, Jesus is the rightful King of Israel and of the tribe of Levites, the priestly lineage. So through Mary's lineage alone; ( Joseph is not Jesus Christ's biological father) Jesus is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords ( a Lord is a Priest. Mary's father was of the kingly line heir to the Throne of Israel, Mary was also the rightful heir to the Throne and Mary's mother is the Levite priestly line. John the Baptist is Jesus Christ's first cousin. Jesus identified the offspring of satan, through Cain as " vipers". They murdered Judas who repented betraying Christ and returned the money.Judas didn't committ suicide. How does one draw and quarter himself,
also while hanging himself?
e Present (Which is our time now. Lasting only 6,000 years, satan comes at 6th Vial, 6th Trump, and the 6th Seal, pretending to be the Real Jesus ), and The Eternal Future ; the Real Jesus comes on the 7thVial, 7th Trump, 7th Seal, Jesus is our Sabbath Rest. ( One Day with the Lord is as 1,000 years, 7,000 years? ) The number 6 comes before the number 7. Satan comes to deceive anyone who hasn't been taught the Truth. We existed before we were put in our mother's womb. We were in Heaven with God, and at His choosing were born during this 6,000 yrs. time. Why? This is God's plan of Salvation, to give all those who chose to follow satan in Lucifer/satan in the first Earth and Heaven Age. And also those who are lukewarm, who had the good angel Gabriel for a Commanding Officer, The Good Angel Michael is the strongest of the three angels,w Michael's people are the hot, intense ones who despised satan, and stayed True Blue, to Jesus Christ, these the Bivle calls "the Elect" and they don't have free- will, like Paul. If you haven't been taught who the Kenites are and taught against the satanic doctrine. It's not your fault but the fault of false shepherd's leading their flocks to the slaughter While it isn't the sheep's fault they are the ones who bare the consequences. In 1830 Margret MacDonald, was mentally ill she had a nightmare eventing the Rapture Doctrine she told her nightmare to some pastors, who began preaching it. Years later Margret MacDonald, fully recovered from her mental illness she repented, and went to these pastors trying to stop them from preaching the rapture, to no avail. She spent the rest of her life speaking out against it. "The dead are already in Heaven with the Lord Jesus; II Thes. 4: 13-18. Souls go to God.
 
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Actually God was angry with the fallen angels who kidnapped and raped human women.
How do you get that from this verse?

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

When you married your wife, was that considered rape? Seems like the marriage was consensual. Can't see how you read that in the scripture.

Since it was sons of God marrying, then sons of God to be called sons of God in His words, can't be considered as fallen angels. And since God does not give angels to marry nor given in marriage ( I believe Jesus at His word ) then the sons of God could not be angels.

Demons as you mentioned above, are not angels. The angels corrupted the very DNA of humans by interbreeding with them...That made humans no longer human but hybrids...Hte people of the planet were eventually all corrupted with the exception of eight people. Noah, and his family.
Note how God responded to these sons of God marrying the daughters of men; He was still addressing them as men, but reduced the years to 120 years. But why say that? Because the line that led up to Noah and his family was beyond 120 years old and by that godly line of Seth, the years dwindled on down through mankind after the flood.

Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

So godly living produced good results; long life and what not; but then marrying outside the godly line leads to temptations to not continue the godly practices which is what happened to Israel whenever they marry outside the nation of Israel.
 
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Gensis 1:2 The verse reads in the original Hebrew Manuscripts, "The earth "became" ( In Hebrew "tohu va bohu") void and without form."
That is not the only definition one can derive from that Hebrew word which in English was translated "was".

From Strong's Concordance:

"a primitive root (compare 'hava'' (1933)); to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):--beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use "

One can say that to exist or how it had existed as without form and void; meaning it did not existed. What was created the very first day? Light in assigning the creation of the first day as evening and morning each day of creation. By reading how "was" is used in that verse is how it defines the word in how everything started that first day of creation when teh earth was as it said.. without form and void; as in nothing.

Evrrything God creates is Righteous,Good, and Clean! God is a "God of the Living" not the dead. When He created earth everything was alive. He doesn't create evil. (In the 1611 King James Version Bible, the translators warn to be careful because they made mistakes although they did the best they could.) The word " evil" God doesn't create "evil", the word should be "tumult" meaning trouble. God disrupts and causes trouble for wicked people, hopefully bringing them to repentance. The Bible teaches that there are, II Peter 3:5,12,13, three Earth and Heaven Ages: The Eternal Past, ( during the past is when Lucifer became "the angel of death". God is the vine we are the branches When a branch severs itself from Life it dies. Lucifer was the covering cherub guarding the Mercy Seat until by his pride he stopped worshiping God and worshipped himself instead this is when he died, spiritually. God changed his name to satan; he and his evil angels, are already judged by God. Like the zombies, in reverse people who have seperated themselves from Jesus are spiritually dead. Jesus called them " white sepulchres " (tombs) they look pretty on the outside but inside are rotting corpses. Like the Nazis, etc. After "the Catabal" , "the casting down" from Heaven these "evil ones: satan, and his demonic angels, " the Nephilim" . Gen. God created us in His Image, "Elohim, Jesus and the Angels" We look like them they look like us. Jesus walked in the Garden of Eden during the cool of the evenings with Adam, and later Eve. Jesus talked to them. Satan also walked about on the earth" like a roaring lion seeing who he could devour." In Jude, the Bible says the end times when the anti-Christ is here, it will be like the days of Noe ( Noah), men having sex with demonic angels. ( Like in Sodom and Gomorrah when deminic angels taught people to be sexually depraved, homosexual, child/ baby rapests, beastiality, etc. This is why it's a sin for men to wear long hair, not to even touch their collar. Because men will have to resist these demonic angels during the 5 months , they are here (shortened to 2 1/2 months for the sake of the Elect.) Also long hair is a form of corruption to a man, it makes him effeminate, and is an act of rebellion against God. Women can wear long hair without it corrupting their morals. ) before Noah's flood. Noah's flood wasn't the first flood God sent. Also there was a great shaking of the Earth, by God, a global earthquake. All this happened in the first Earth and Heaven Age, this is also when the dinosaurs lived.
These things occurred because of the war between satan and his army, and God's Army, the Lord's Legion of Hosts, of untold number. Jesus says if His angels, soldiers, are not enough; Jesus can turn every grain of sand, on all the beaches of the world, into a soldier, each grain. Do a word study of "cherubim" ( Ezk. 28: 11-19) they are 3 Generals of God's Army, they are also called Princes, Lucifer is called the counterfeit, prince of the mourning. (satan is the prince of Tyre).
and the" fallen" from Heaven, fallen away from God. Were here on earth and were depraved, without a conscience, amoral. The "mighty men of renowned" that are famous for their filthy, depravity. They were born as a result of earth women having sex with evil angels. Hercules is mentioned in the Bible, but not by name, he was the giant who had a bet with the (king of salem?) To clean the 1,000 stalls, in the king's stable, in one day. Hercules won his bet. Goliath and his brothers were 14 feet tall. The kenites of Rev. 2:7-9 and 3: 7-9 are Jewish imposters pretending to be Jewish, but really of the synagogue of satan! 1Cor.2:55; 1 John3:15;Gen. 4:1-2; Gen. 3:16; John 8:44. In Gen. Eve "again" laboured and produced Abel. Cain and Abel were twins, but with different father's Adam was NOT Cain's biological son. satan had sex with both Adam and Eve, she became pregnant by both of them. Cain is not listed in Adam's genealogy. Read 2 Cor. 11:3,13,14 The Bible says " the serpent beguiled Eve. " beguiled" means wholly seduced. Cain went to the land of the Nod, the Nomads, and lived with them and had biological children. Look up in the Strong's Hebrew Dictionary #7017 sons of Cain, "patron" is an abbreviation of paternal ancestors, and means "offspring", biological children. These are the
evil countries who throughout history have wanted to destroy Israel and all the 12 tribes of Israel, including the tribe of Judah, the lineage of kings, Jesus is the rightful King of Israel and of the tribe of Levites, the priestly lineage. So through Mary's lineage alone; ( Joseph is not Jesus Christ's biological father) Jesus is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords ( a Lord is a Priest. Mary's father was of the kingly line heir to the Throne of Israel, Mary was also the rightful heir to the Throne and Mary's mother is the Levite priestly line. John the Baptist is Jesus Christ's first cousin. Jesus identified the offspring of satan, through Cain as " vipers". They murdered Judas who repented betraying Christ and returned the money.Judas didn't committ suicide. How does one draw and quarter himself,
also while hanging himself?
e Present (Which is our time now. Lasting only 6,000 years, satan comes at 6th Vial, 6th Trump, and the 6th Seal, pretending to be the Real Jesus ), and The Eternal Future ; the Real Jesus comes on the 7thVial, 7th Trump, 7th Seal, Jesus is our Sabbath Rest. ( One Day with the Lord is as 1,000 years, 7,000 years? ) The number 6 comes before the number 7. Satan comes to deceive anyone who hasn't been taught the Truth. We existed before we were put in our mother's womb. We were in Heaven with God, and at His choosing were born during this 6,000 yrs. time. Why? This is God's plan of Salvation, to give all those who chose to follow satan in Lucifer/satan in the first Earth and Heaven Age. And also those who are lukewarm, who had the good angel Gabriel for a Commanding Officer, The Good Angel Michael is the strongest of the three angels,w Michael's people are the hot, intense ones who despised satan, and stayed True Blue, to Jesus Christ, these the Bivle calls "the Elect" and they don't have free- will, like Paul. If you haven't been taught who the Kenites are and taught against the satanic doctrine. It's not your fault but the fault of false shepherd's leading their flocks to the slaughter While it isn't the sheep's fault they are the ones who bare the consequences. In 1830 Margret MacDonald, was mentally ill she had a nightmare eventing the Rapture Doctrine she told her nightmare to some pastors, who began preaching it. Years later Margret MacDonald, fully recovered from her mental illness she repented, and went to these pastors trying to stop them from preaching the rapture, to no avail. She spent the rest of her life speaking out against it. "The dead are already in Heaven with the Lord Jesus; II Thes. 4: 13-18. Souls go to God.
Lucifer was never Satan's original name. Lucifer was added from the Latin manuscript to assign the identity of the morning star which is known as Venus today. If you read the scripture in context, it was about a king who was prophesied to die without being buried.

Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

There are more verses to this fallen pompous earthly and yet mortal king and since the manuscript supposedly never had Lucifer in it to begin with, one should discern with Him that in context of the scripture, it was never really about Satan at all.
 
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How do you get that from this verse?

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

When you married your wife, was that considered rape? Seems like the marriage was consensual. Can't see how you read that in the scripture.

Since it was sons of God marrying, then sons of God to be called sons of God in His words, can't be considered as fallen angels. And since God does not give angels to marry nor given in marriage ( I believe Jesus at His word ) then the sons of God could not be angels.



Note how God responded to these sons of God marrying the daughters of men; He was still addressing them as men, but reduced the years to 120 years. But why say that? Because the line that led up to Noah and his family was beyond 120 years old and by that godly line of Seth, the years dwindled on down through mankind after the flood.

Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

So godly living produced good results; long life and what not; but then marrying outside the godly line leads to temptations to not continue the godly practices which is what happened to Israel whenever they marry outside the nation of Israel.
Now you're quoting non biblical sources, just like you condemn....There was no godly line of Seth. If there was, why were they not on the ark? Where is mention of any godly line of Seth in the bible?
 
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Now you're quoting non biblical sources, just like you condemn....There was no godly line of Seth. If there was, why were they not on the ark? Where is mention of any godly line of Seth in the bible?
I got that truth from other scripture.

John had testified how the sons of God are now identified under the New Covenant thus referring to the former ways of how the sons of God were identified but no longer.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Verse 13 is testifying that the sons of God of old were originally identified as born of the blood line of the nation of Israel; as well as converts to Judaism which is the will of the flesh and the will of man.

Back to the identity per the blood line, we go here to the genealogy cited as proof;

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, ...............38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

The godly lineage of Seth as per after the birth of his son, Enos was when men called on the name of the Lord; hence the sons of God carrying on the acts of godliness of Abel of whom Seth was concieved and given birth to replace.

Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

See the why for Seth being the godly lineage as one replacing Abel by whom the nation of Israel had sprung from as the sons of God? That was of old, and now those who believe in Him are the new sons of God. So hardly a reference to angels at all. All this was proven by the accepted scripture of the KJV.
 
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I got that truth from other scripture.

John had testified how the sons of God are now identified under the New Covenant thus referring to the former ways of how the sons of God were identified but no longer.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Verse 13 is testifying that the sons of God of old were originally identified as born of the blood line of the nation of Israel; as well as converts to Judaism which is the will of the flesh and the will of man.

Back to the identity per the blood line, we go here to the genealogy cited as proof;

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, ...............38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

The godly lineage of Seth as per after the birth of his son, Enos was when men called on the name of the Lord; hence the sons of God carrying on the acts of godliness of Abel of whom Seth was concieved and given birth to replace.

Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

See the why for Seth being the godly lineage as one replacing Abel by whom the nation of Israel had sprung from as the sons of God? That was of old, and now those who believe in Him are the new sons of God. So hardly a reference to angels at all. All this was proven by the accepted scripture of the KJV.
You said "I got that truth from other scripture." Do you mean scripture other than the bible? There is no 'godly line of Seth' mentioned in the bible. What scripture?

The New Covenant 'sons of God' are not the same ones or the same type as in the Old Covenant...You're reading that in... So...How was Abel so Godly. The only mention in the bible is that he made sacrifices with a good attitude. There was nothing more on him. You read that in.
"26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord." It says nothing about Enosh having to do with men calling on the name of the Lord. You read that in. The bible say it was at the time Enosh was born that men began to call on the name of the Lord. You read more into the Word than the Word says. So it appears that you are spreading false teachings.
 
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You said "I got that truth from other scripture." Do you mean scripture other than the bible?
No. The scripture provided for you from the KJV Bible in post #225

There is no 'godly line of Seth' mentioned in the bible. What scripture?
Tell you what; ask someone else to read the scripture provided in that post that you seem to be unable to see in post #225.
 
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No. The scripture provided for you from the KJV Bible in post #225



Tell you what; ask someone else to read the scripture provided in that post that you seem to be unable to see in post #225.
Tell you what....Read what the scripture says, and stop reading into it...or adding to it.
But here! Anybody! Read Genesis chapter 4 and tell me if Enos began men calling on the name of the Lord or if it was in his time men began calling on the name of the Lord.
 
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Tell you what....Read what the scripture says, and stop reading into it...or adding to it.
But here! Anybody! Read Genesis chapter 4 and tell me if Enos began men calling on the name of the Lord or if it was in his time men began calling on the name of the Lord.
What do you call men who call upon the name of the Lord? Godly men.

So when a family line are of godly men that called upon the name of the Lord soon began marrying outside their family line as the sons of God that they were, they ceased to do the practices of the sons of God of that family godly line.

The same happened to Israel when they had married outside the nation of Israel.

I'll leave this tidbit at that for you to chew on.
 
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That is not the only definition one can derive from that Hebrew word which in English was translated "was".

From Strong's Concordance:

"a primitive root (compare 'hava'' (1933)); to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):--beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use "

One can say that to exist or how it had existed as without form and void; meaning it did not existed. What was created the very first day? Light in assigning the creation of the first day as evening and morning each day of creation. By reading how "was" is used in that verse is how it defines the word in how everything started that first day of creation when teh earth was as it said.. without form and void; as in nothing.



Lucifer was never Satan's original name. Lucifer was added from the Latin manuscript to assign the identity of the morning star which is known as Venus today. If you read the scripture in context, it was about a king who was prophesied to die without being buried.

Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

There are more verses to this fallen pompous earthly and yet mortal king and since the manuscript supposedly never had Lucifer in it to begin with, one should discern with Him that in context of the scripture, it was never really about Satan at all.
Why do you read the corrupted manuscripts from the corrupt Catholic church? The pope claiming to be Jesus on this earth?!!! They burned Christians alive, at the stake, for refusing to say that the pope was Jesus Christ. The pope also said to the international press. "That God exaggerated (the pope calling God a liar! Who is the pope that we should listen to any thing he has to say! ) when God claimed to create the earth and everything on it". The pope futher said," Everything came as a result of evolution.We are descendants from monkeys." The Vatican had to really scramble to cover this up! " Why not read the Holy Word of God, the King James Bible instead? God tells us in His own Words, that He changed Lucifer's name to satan. Take the Lord's Word for it! satan has many names, wormwood, in Russian is Chernobyl, where all the Jewish people were forced to live beside the nuclear reactor and all have radiation poisoning. Apollyon is the Greek "god" a satanic idol and a real supernatural creature, by the name of Apollo who was hideously depraved and chased young women and raped them! This was satan. Why are you disputing with God about what He tells us? "Let God tell the Truth and every man a liar!! Please stop reading anything that comes from a false religion. Stick to the Word of God. And God warns us, to, " Pray that you are not deceived!"
 
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Why do you read the corrupted manuscripts from the corrupt Catholic church? The pope claiming to be Jesus on this earth?!!! They burned Christians alive, at the stake, for refusing to say that the pope was Jesus Christ. The pope also said to the international press. "That God exaggerated (the pope calling God a liar! Who is the pope that we should listen to any thing he has to say! ) when God claimed to create the earth and everything on it". The pope futher said," Everything came as a result of evolution.We are descendants from monkeys." The Vatican had to really scramble to cover this up! " Why not read the Holy Word of God, the King James Bible instead? God tells us in His own Words, that He changed Lucifer's name to satan. Take the Lord's Word for it! satan has many names, wormwood, in Russian is Chernobyl, where all the Jewish people were forced to live beside the nuclear reactor and all have radiation poisoning. Apollyon is the Greek "god" a satanic idol and a real supernatural creature, by the name of Apollo who was hideously depraved and chased young women and raped them! This was satan. Why are you disputing with God about what He tells us? "Let God tell the Truth and every man a liar!! Please stop reading anything that comes from a false religion. Stick to the Word of God. And God warns us, to, " Pray that you are not deceived!"
I know all about the corrupted Catholic Church but my reference to the Latin manuscripts was for the point of truth that "Lucifer" was not originally in the scripture as it was put in there for the point of signifying the planet Venus.

Are you understanding what I am sharing here? Your use of Lucifer is from what you condemned as corrupted manuscript. Lucifer was a Latin term for Venus. Some scholar thought it was wise to explain what son of the morning was by inserting the Latin term "Lucifer" in that verse.

That means Satanists, the Illuminatti , the supposed lost books, and any writings about Lucifer being another name for Satan is from misunderstanding how that Latin term "Lucifer" was after it was introduced and used for in that verse.

More information at this link:

"Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12-17 Translation and Ideology
 
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What do you call men who call upon the name of the Lord? Godly men.

So when a family line are of godly men that called upon the name of the Lord soon began marrying outside their family line as the sons of God that they were, they ceased to do the practices of the sons of God of that family godly line.

The same happened to Israel when they had married outside the nation of Israel.

I'll leave this tidbit at that for you to chew on.
If you're referring to your godly line of Seth that you keep referring to, you still have not established their existence, you still have not explained why they were not on the ark...Why did they all die off? You're still spouting churchianity doctrines, and with no Word to back it up. You're still speaking some sort of translation of what you think the Word says. In other words, my friend, you're blowing smog.
 
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How do you get that from this verse?

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

When you married your wife, was that considered rape? Seems like the marriage was consensual. Can't see how you read that in the scripture.

Since it was sons of God marrying, then sons of God to be called sons of God in His words, can't be considered as fallen angels. And since God does not give angels to marry nor given in marriage ( I believe Jesus at His word ) then the sons of God could not be angels.



Note how God responded to these sons of God marrying the daughters of men; He was still addressing them as men, but reduced the years to 120 years. But why say that? Because the line that led up to Noah and his family was beyond 120 years old and by that godly line of Seth, the years dwindled on down through mankind after the flood.

Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

So godly living produced good results; long life and what not; but then marrying outside the godly line leads to temptations to not continue the godly practices which is what happened to Israel whenever they marry outside the nation of Israel.
How does one explain these things to one such as you?
 
Loyal
Sethites and Cainites The second theory is the most popular one today. The Cainites were the first to become corrupt and warlike. The posterity of Seth stayed godly long after the Cainites formed, but eventually they also corrupted themselves. Jewish historian Josephus mentioned the fall of the Cainites who became masters of war. Nay, even while Adam was alive, it came to pass that the posterity of Cain became exceeding wicked, every one successively dying, one after another, more wicked than the former. They were intolerable in war... Josephus 1.2.2
Josephus also mentioned the fall of the Sethites.
Now this posterity of Seth continued to esteem God as the Lord of the universe, and to have an entire regard to virtue, for seven generations; but in process of time they were perverted, and forsook the practices of their forefathers; and did neither pay those honors to God which were appointed them, nor had they any concern to do justice towards men. But for what degree of zeal they had formerly shown for virtue, they now showed by their actions a double degree of wickedness, whereby they made God to be their enemy. Josephus 2.3.1

This presents a few problems: It is unlikely that a godly peaceful group suddenly turning evil could conquer a race of master warriors, unless you reverse the text and say that the master warriors (Cainites) took over the Sethites and stole their daughters. But the text does not say the sons of men took the daughters of God. And why is it only ungodly men taking godly women? Why did no ungodly woman marry a godly man and produce a giant?
We are told the children of these matches were giants, but inbreeding causes genetic anomalies, but marrying outside of your tribe does not.
Angels and Humans
The third theory has been the standard interpretation for centuries. All the ancient rabbis and all the ancient church fathers up to about AD 300 taught the sons of God were angels and the daughters were human women. After AD 200, a movement began to grow denying the sons were angels but rather were Sethites.
In addition to recording the history of the Sethites and Cainites, Josephus also recorded the history of the sons of God of Genesis 6. For many angels of God accompanied with women, and begot sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants or Titans. Josephus Ant. 1.3.1
Later Josephus mentioned the biblical Amorite giants around
Hebron. In Hebron there were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day. Josephus Ant. 5.2.3
Ancient church fathers who taught the sons of God were angels
included: Athinogorius, Clement of Alexandria, Titian, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Myetus of Philippi, Philix, Ambrose of Milan, and Origen.
Church fathers who taught the sons of God were Sethites included: Theodoran, Jerome, Julius Africanus, Chrysostom, John Calvin, and Martin Luther.
If we look carefully at the New Testament we see that Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch (Jude 1:6), which gives an almost complete story of the descent of the two hundred sons of God. Notice that Jude states that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they committed the same sin as the angels, going after “strange flesh.”
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:6-7
Those sons of God who went after strange flesh are chained under darkness, according to Jude. Peter says they are imprisoned in hell (KJV). In the Greek, the word for hell is Tartarus, also referred to as the bottomless pit in Revelation. Peter says their fall occurred before the Flood.
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-6
Scripture refers to angels as “sons of God” and “stars” in Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Deuteronomy 4:19; Isaiah 14:13; Revelation 12:4; 12:9; Genesis 22:17.
Christians are referred to as adopted sons of God in Hosea 1:10; John 1:12; Romans 8:14, 19; Philippians 2:15; and 1 John 3:1-2.
Conclusion
The consistent teaching of the ancient rabbis and ancient church fathers has always been the sons of God were angels. Genetic problems come from inbreeding, not outbreeding. A pacifist group does not suddenly make their own weapons and take over a group of seasoned warriors. When we take these facts and add to them the fact that Enoch has accurate prophecy fulfilled in our lifetime, the conclusion must be that the sons of God were fallen angels.
 
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Scripture cannot be broken so that means Jesus validated scripture as it is written so He had grounds to defend Himself as well as correct others by the scripture.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Jesus validated everything Moses had written because Moses had written of Him.

John 5:9 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life............46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

So the Jews may have a hard time understanding His words as it is written, but Jesus validated scripture and the Genesis account of creation being ONLY of six days for why God rested the seventh day.

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
I am glad to pray for you.
 
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About twenty eight years ago a desire was lit in my soul to want to know what God’s word/truth really said. I’m talking the cold hard truth of God not some junk religion. To help me with understanding and to speed up my learning, I read books by noted authors about the Bible. Read about a hundred book over a three year period but still felt there was more to it than what I got out of those books. One day I was having a mental chat with the Father on what I just stated above and a heavy thought came to me, don’t read man’s books about the Bible. I didn’t ponder much on that thought that came to me.

About two weeks later I was introduced to the Compansion Bible. Still the good ole King James Bible word for word but with a treasure trove of info by probably the worlds greatest KJB scholar that ever lived, E. W. Bullinger. In my opinion it’s the best study Bible out there. It would take me pages to tell you all the info that’s in this one book. If you haven’t checked out this Companion Bible, your missing a really great tool for studying God’s word in depth. Dr. Bullinger spent a life time studying the old manuscripts from which our KJB came from. He was a scholar of scholars. The only scholar the church trusted to check the translation of the KJB against the old manuscripts.

We all know that Christ was the worlds greatest scholar of Gods word. At the age of twelve He amazed the scholars of his time with his great knowledge and wisdom. Those scholars didn’t realize they were talking to the living word, right before their eyes.

The only way that a Christian can get all the pieces of the Bible to actually fit together as a whole is to be aware of the three world ages. Not three separate world/earths, but three three different dispensations of time upon this one world/earth. I don’t believe that God started off with the plan of three different time dispensations in his plan for his children and Him.

After all God and the children were having a really good time. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD and Satan came also so among them. Do you remember went we all use to come before God and he would speak to all his children every so often? And Satan come amoung us. Do you remember that? That was back in the fist word age, before Satan’s rebellion or overthrow. I don’t remember if either, but God tells us about it in His word. We were all there but we were not in flesh bodies at that time.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. But when Satan rebelled and got one third of Gods children to follow him and try to take over, God had to make a choice at that point. It was either destroy Satan and that one third of the children that sided with Satan, or put in a plan of salvation in place to redeem or take back what children He could.

Can you understand how hard it would be to kill your children cause they pushed you away and took up with someone else. Your heart would grieve with pain. You’d want to make the child understand just how much you love them and want their love in return. You’d want them to come home cause they wanted to on their own, not cause you are forcing them to. You’d want them to come home cause they desire to, cause they really love you.

Forced love is fake love and God knows that. True love can only well up from within a free willed thinking person on their own, cause that’s what they truly desire. That’s the kind of love our Father wants.

So God destroyed the world that was, the very foundation and set up this plan of salvation, birthing all the children from the first world age into this second world age through the womb of woman, in the flesh, born totally innocent of the first world age that was, to make up their mind to who they would love, Satan or God. God has given each of us total free will to choose whoever you wish. That choice is yours, my friends.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,and a thousand years as one day. So Peter has told us that one of Gods days is like a thousand years to man.

Here’s some food for thought, when God was recreating/reconstructing this second world age, where the book of Genesis begins. For each day God created, a thousand years past to man. So God was recreating the earth for 6000 years. God then rested 1000 years. So we could assume that 7000 years passed during recreation and about additional 6000 has passed since God rested on that seventh day.

We can now estimate this second world age we are in is somewhere around 12,000 to 14,000 years old. I read not to long ago that the oldest flesh man found, carbon dated 12,500 years. Think this mans body was found in a cave in England. So if this mans body was 12,500 years old, this time frame kinda fits. This second world age of man being flesh is not all that old compared to the first world age where man was in that finer body/spiritual body, the same type body that the fallen angels or the sons of God were in.

The third world age that is coming up and it’s not all that far away. God tell us just how many years that age will last. The third world age, also known as, The LORDS DAY, also known as the millennium, that one thousand year period of time, is considered as a so called boot camp for those who feld to get it right or feld to overcome in the first or second world age.

Only the one third of Gods children have made the grade or overcome to this point in time, That one third is known as the Elect, they are upon this world in flesh bodies so God can use them to cause his plan of salvation to go down as planed. The Elect overcame in the first world age, they sided and fought with God in putting Satan back in his place at that time. They’ve already accomplished the goal of overcoming and God has already elevated their souls to the status of deathlessness.

The other two thirds of Gods children still have mortal souls that still have the task of overcoming. Some will make that grade at the end of this second world age. And those that overcome in this second world age, the age we are in at the present, their souls will be elevated to the status of deathlessness. All the other children will still be in jeopardy of libel to die status unless they overcome during the LORDS DAY/ Millennium.

This third world age, THE LORDS DAY, the Millennium, that one thousand year period of time, that is coming will be the last proving ground for those who have not overcome. The good news is this, during the millennium, nothing but the cold hard truth of God’s word will be taught there. There won’t be a bunch of junk religions be taught there to confuse God’s children. But by the same token, if the children don’t get it right or overcome during this age, where nothing but truth is taught, they will go into the lake of fire at the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.

This is pretty serious my friends, If one does not overcome out of the flesh and has to go through the millennium boot camp, to be taught for one thousands years, your very soul is at stake Of being snuffed out if you don’t get it right. One might say, if I’m snuffed out I won’t know it. Well my friends if that’s one’s thinking, have a good trip cause it is one way and you ain’t coming back. Not even the remembrance of that one will survive the blotting out ant that time.

The unbelievers try and push evolution but evolution can be disproved simplely with a little logic. For evolution to be a fact, it must be a on going process, even in today’s time. The evolutionists say that man came from monkeys. If that were true, then we should still be able to see every stage of man, from monkey to man, today. We don’t see them, were are they. We done see them cause evolution is a lie.

As mentioned earlier that unless one is aware of the three world ages the Bible will never totally fit together. Gods word tells us that this earth is millions of years old. The fossils found of the marine life and the dinosaurs bones are proof of that. Somewhere in Oklahoma,Texas and Arizona there are parks where angels feet prints have been found in stone. Angels are Gods children that are in that spiritual body instead of a flesh body. Flesh man was made in their image.i I think the angels foot print in Arizona carbon dated 290 million years old. I can assure you that this second world age where man is in the flesh body in not anywhere near that old.

A few years ago a man brought a petrified forefinger of an angel in my shop to show me. I ask him if he had it verified to that fact, he hadn’t. But this petrified looking finger was perfect right down to the fingernail. It was amazing how life like it was. It wasn’t jagged or rough but smooth and exact shape of a forefinger. Would of liked to owned it but I know the man personally and he still has it.

Psalms 104. 1-7 King David wrote this psalms. Not only was David a king, he was a prophet. Ps 104:1 David saying just how great our Father is, after all God could speak and things would appear. Clothed in honor , God set the standard for honor, he is the most honorable. With Gods majesty, he can do whatever He wants. Ps104:2 he coverest thyself with light, God is the light. God was able to bring foreth the heaven as easy as hanging a curtain. Ps104:3 David goes on with the majesty the Father possesses. Makes mention of Gods chariots that walketh upon the wings of wind.

We know from Gods word that God uses what we may call UFOs, but are really the crafts that God uses to transport him and His thorn wherever he chooses to go, or when He comes to earth. It’s no doubt these are the same crafts that the fallen angels used to come to earth. Ezekiel spoke of these craft and even described them very well considering the only transportation he knew of was a animal drawn cart. The same craft that God came to earth and picked up Elijah. Those chariot of God would make our most advanced jets look like turtles.

This is just my account of seeing what I’d say were some of these crafts that are use by God. Two of my friends and I saw four of these ultra fast moving lights/objects in the heavens one at a time, each came out of one of the four corners of earth, in a 45 min period. These were the fastest moving light /object I’ve ever seen. They were extremely high, just using a figure, 50,000 feet but may have been much higher, they were very faint and small. If one wasn’t really looking closely you would never notice them. By the time we’d see them coming out of one of the four directions, they would streak across the heavens and be out of sight in less than five seconds. Sounds impossible but fact to me.

People who have watched satellites travel across the heaven can watch them for a few minutes before they go out of sight. Those satellites my friends are traveling at 17,500 mph. And the satellites moved like turtles in comparison to we all three saw. What were they, I can only surmise it could be these craft spoken of in the Bible. To traverse in space to get anywhere you must travel much faster than anything man has come up with. Hated to bore you all with that but this is a true story. Now back to the world that was, the very foundation of the creation of this planet earth, which is know as the 1st world age.

Psalms 104:4 who can make the very spirits/souls of life and his Elect/ministers of fire/authority Psalms 104:5 Who laid the the foundation of the earth. He not talking about the recreation of earth at the beginning of Genesis. He’s talking the very beginning or the making/creation of this planet. When this planet was hung in the orbit its in and made a very special planet that can substain life. Scientists have looked far and long and have never found a planet like earth. that it should not be removed for ever. It will always be a planet with Gods children on it.

Psalms 104:6-7 Now we get to the verses that seal the fact that it’s talking about the very foundation of the very beginning of God forming this planet and making it habitable. And then tells of, because of Satan overthrow, God caused the ferment to fall in and cover the whole earth above all the mountains. You might think this was talking of the waters of Noah’s flood. No way. Listen Psalms 104:7 AT THY REBUKE THEY FLED; AT THE VOICE OF THY THUNDER THEY HASTED AWAY. At Gods command the water fled and hasted away. Noah’s flood the waters weren’t rebuked by God and made to be hastened away. No, the water in Noah’s flood slowly receded over a period of about a year without any command from God.

Peter has a chapter written to the Elect to get them to remember that first world age. 2nd Peter 3:1-9 Peter is telling the Elect in this writing that he wants to stir up there remembrance of the first world age, the very foundation from when this planet was hung in it special orbit. That there would be scoffers/mockers saying where is the promise of his coming, he not coming, everything just cintinues the same.

2nd Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are IGNORANT of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2nd 3:6 Whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water, PERISHED: . This word (perished) it means totally utterly destroyed.

Noah’s flood sure didn’t totally destroy the heavens or for that fact not the world. The floods main reason was to get rid of the fallen angels, the giants, the misfits and that seed line that was birthing those hybrids, Most scholars don’t believe Noah’s flood was world wide but just the know world where the hybrids and the defiled seed line of Adam and Eve was located. That can’t be documented but real scholars believe this.

Peter 2nd Peter 3:7 Here’s where it changes and starts taking about this second world age, the one we are in at the present. 2nd Peter 2:7. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, this world age we are in now, the second world age, Gods same word is kept in store during the day of Judgement and the perdition of ungodly me. The word perdition means to parish, gone, done away with, to the point that not even their remenberence of them survives.

2nd Peter 3:8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2nd Peter 3:9 The lord is not slack concerning his promise, but is long suffering, meaning he has patiences, not willing or wanting to lose any of His children that are sure to perish if they don’t come to repentance.

Jeremiah 4:20-27 Destruction upon destruction the whole land is spoiled. This is the destruction of the first heaven age and the first world age. Did you know that even heaven was destroyed in this first world age? The results of Satan over throw. 4:21 for my people is foolish, they have not known me ; they are Scottish children, This word sottish means, stupid. And they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it’s was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. The earth and the heavens wasn’t created without form and void, they became that way after Satan’s overthrow. Noah’s flood didn’t destroy the heavens or the earth. When the waters receded the earth came back to life in a natural since. God didn’t recreat the earth again after Noah’s flood. God natural way of things brought the earth back to its fullness.

4:24 when the mountain trembled and the hills moved lightly. Scholars believe that the land was all one mass before Satan overthrow but when God destroyed the first world age, after Satan’s overthrow, being covered with water for millions of years the land mass broke up and drifted apart. When you look at map of the world continents they looks as if you could push the continents next to each other and see that maybe they did fit together at one time.

Here is the verse that let you know that this was not Noah’s flood 4:25. I beheld, and, lo, THERE WAS NO MAN, AND ALL THE BIRDS OF THE HEAVENS FLED. The birds vanished. Noah’s flood had eight pure generation adamic people aboard the ark and all the animals and two of every flesh of the peoples created on the sixth day. So you can see this could not be Noah’s flood.

4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. No God didn’t make a full end. Instead he set up a plan of salvation after Satan’s overthrow for those who will wake up and become a child of God. God loves his children and all he wants in return is his children to love him, cause they honestly desire to on their own. Not made or forced to love God, cause forced love is fake love.

Isaiah45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else.

This word vain, is the Hebrew word, H8414,in your Strongs. It’s the word, tohuw, pronounced, to’-hoo definition- formlessness, confusion, unreality, emotiness a) wasteland, empty or unreal. So you see by knowing proper meaning to a word, tohuw, it gives you better understanding. So what is said here is, God didn’t create this world from the foundation, from the very beginning, the first world age, void and without form, it became that way cause of our Fathers furious anger, over Satan’s deceiving one third of Gods children.

God makes a statement about wisdom and it goes like this, in all your getting, get wisdom first. Proverbs 8:20-36. Here is wisdom speaking. I’m Not going to quote all the verses but point out key points. 8:22 now this wisdom talking. The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works (OF OLD). The works of old is the very foundation, the beginning of the first world age. 23 from the beginning/foundation, or ever the earth was

. Wisdom is say our Father poses her before the earth was. When there were no fountains abounding with water. Water wasn’t upon the earth as of yet. 26 while as yet he had not made the earth, 27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there, wisdom was there with God. 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him; and I was daily his delight, This is wisdom speaking my friends 36. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

This post is getting way to long. There is more evidence of the three world ages in our Fathers word but I will close this post after discussing Jeremiah 1:5. This is God talking to Jeremiah. 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Now how did God know Jeremiah before God even formed him in the belly of his mother. Simple, Jeremiah was one of the one third that sided and fought with God against Satan In the first world age, during the over throw of Satan. Jeremiah was one of God’s Elect upon this earth carrying out the task God had for him to make His plan of salvation go down as prophesies.

There are many of Gods Elect upon this earth in these last days of this second world age. God needed more of the Elect in the last days cause Satan has sent more of his evil sons of God down in this end time cause he knows he had just a short time left.

That’s probably why we are seeing a lot more devilish events happening in today’s time. Even some of the political leaders are calling to ban the Bible. I thought that I heard on the news, in California, some law makers were calling for a total ban of the Bible in that state. That is unbelievable my friends. But it was God’s prophecy also. God said in the last days, that they would try and drive Him out of everything.

We are seeing that very fact taking place. Don’t worry my friends, God is still in control. I know it doesn’t look like it at times, but I assure you He is getting ready to pull the trigger and usher in the third world age, also know as the LORDS DAY, also know as the Millennium, that one thousand year period right before the, GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT DAY. After that day nothing but peace and harmony for God and His children. Praise God Almighty

Sorry my friends for the length of this post. Gods word can not be explained in just a few minutes or paragraphs.

One last note, I think Mechie has been studying with a world renown King James Bible scholar that I’m familiar with.
 
Loyal
About twenty eight years ago a desire was lit in my soul to want to know what God’s word/truth really said. I’m talking the cold hard truth of God not some junk religion. To help me with understanding and to speed up my learning, I read books by noted authors about the Bible. Read about a hundred book over a three year period but still felt there was more to it than what I got out of those books. One day I was having a mental chat with the Father on what I just stated above and a heavy thought came to me, don’t read man’s books about the Bible. I didn’t ponder much on that thought that came to me.

About two weeks later I was introduced to the Compansion Bible. Still the good ole King James Bible word for word but with a treasure trove of info by probably the worlds greatest KJB scholar that ever lived, E. W. Bullinger. In my opinion it’s the best study Bible out there. It would take me pages to tell you all the info that’s in this one book. If you haven’t checked out this Companion Bible, your missing a really great tool for studying God’s word in depth. Dr. Bullinger spent a life time studying the old manuscripts from which our KJB came from. He was a scholar of scholars. The only scholar the church trusted to check the translation of the KJB against the old manuscripts.

We all know that Christ was the worlds greatest scholar of Gods word. At the age of twelve He amazed the scholars of his time with his great knowledge and wisdom. Those scholars didn’t realize they were talking to the living word, right before their eyes.

The only way that a Christian can get all the pieces of the Bible to actually fit together as a whole is to be aware of the three world ages. Not three separate world/earths, but three three different dispensations of time upon this one world/earth. I don’t believe that God started off with the plan of three different time dispensations in his plan for his children and Him.

After all God and the children were having a really good time. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD and Satan came also so among them. Do you remember went we all use to come before God and he would speak to all his children every so often? And Satan come amoung us. Do you remember that? That was back in the fist word age, before Satan’s rebellion or overthrow. I don’t remember if either, but God tells us about it in His word. We were all there but we were not in flesh bodies at that time.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. But when Satan rebelled and got one third of Gods children to follow him and try to take over, God had to make a choice at that point. It was either destroy Satan and that one third of the children that sided with Satan, or put in a plan of salvation in place to redeem or take back what children He could.

Can you understand how hard it would be to kill your children cause they pushed you away and took up with someone else. Your heart would grieve with pain. You’d want to make the child understand just how much you love them and want their love in return. You’d want them to come home cause they wanted to on their own, not cause you are forcing them to. You’d want them to come home cause they desire to, cause they really love you.

Forced love is fake love and God knows that. True love can only well up from within a free willed thinking person on their own, cause that’s what they truly desire. That’s the kind of love our Father wants.

So God destroyed the world that was, the very foundation and set up this plan of salvation, birthing all the children from the first world age into this second world age through the womb of woman, in the flesh, born totally innocent of the first world age that was, to make up their mind to who they would love, Satan or God. God has given each of us total free will to choose whoever you wish. That choice is yours, my friends.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,and a thousand years as one day. So Peter has told us that one of Gods days is like a thousand years to man.

Here’s some food for thought, when God was recreating/reconstructing this second world age, where the book of Genesis begins. For each day God created, a thousand years past to man. So God was recreating the earth for 6000 years. God then rested 1000 years. So we could assume that 7000 years passed during recreation and about additional 6000 has passed since God rested on that seventh day.

We can now estimate this second world age we are in is somewhere around 12,000 to 14,000 years old. I read not to long ago that the oldest flesh man found, carbon dated 12,500 years. Think this mans body was found in a cave in England. So if this mans body was 12,500 years old, this time frame kinda fits. This second world age of man being flesh is not all that old compared to the first world age where man was in that finer body/spiritual body, the same type body that the fallen angels or the sons of God were in.

The third world age that is coming up and it’s not all that far away. God tell us just how many years that age will last. The third world age, also known as, The LORDS DAY, also known as the millennium, that one thousand year period of time, is considered as a so called boot camp for those who feld to get it right or feld to overcome in the first or second world age.

Only the one third of Gods children have made the grade or overcome to this point in time, That one third is known as the Elect, they are upon this world in flesh bodies so God can use them to cause his plan of salvation to go down as planed. The Elect overcame in the first world age, they sided and fought with God in putting Satan back in his place at that time. They’ve already accomplished the goal of overcoming and God has already elevated their souls to the status of deathlessness.

The other two thirds of Gods children still have mortal souls that still have the task of overcoming. Some will make that grade at the end of this second world age. And those that overcome in this second world age, the age we are in at the present, their souls will be elevated to the status of deathlessness. All the other children will still be in jeopardy of libel to die status unless they overcome during the LORDS DAY/ Millennium.

This third world age, THE LORDS DAY, the Millennium, that one thousand year period of time, that is coming will be the last proving ground for those who have not overcome. The good news is this, during the millennium, nothing but the cold hard truth of God’s word will be taught there. There won’t be a bunch of junk religions be taught there to confuse God’s children. But by the same token, if the children don’t get it right or overcome during this age, where nothing but truth is taught, they will go into the lake of fire at the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.

This is pretty serious my friends, If one does not overcome out of the flesh and has to go through the millennium boot camp, to be taught for one thousands years, your very soul is at stake Of being snuffed out if you don’t get it right. One might say, if I’m snuffed out I won’t know it. Well my friends if that’s one’s thinking, have a good trip cause it is one way and you ain’t coming back. Not even the remembrance of that one will survive the blotting out ant that time.

The unbelievers try and push evolution but evolution can be disproved simplely with a little logic. For evolution to be a fact, it must be a on going process, even in today’s time. The evolutionists say that man came from monkeys. If that were true, then we should still be able to see every stage of man, from monkey to man, today. We don’t see them, were are they. We done see them cause evolution is a lie.

As mentioned earlier that unless one is aware of the three world ages the Bible will never totally fit together. Gods word tells us that this earth is millions of years old. The fossils found of the marine life and the dinosaurs bones are proof of that. Somewhere in Oklahoma,Texas and Arizona there are parks where angels feet prints have been found in stone. Angels are Gods children that are in that spiritual body instead of a flesh body. Flesh man was made in their image.i I think the angels foot print in Arizona carbon dated 290 million years old. I can assure you that this second world age where man is in the flesh body in not anywhere near that old.

A few years ago a man brought a petrified forefinger of an angel in my shop to show me. I ask him if he had it verified to that fact, he hadn’t. But this petrified looking finger was perfect right down to the fingernail. It was amazing how life like it was. It wasn’t jagged or rough but smooth and exact shape of a forefinger. Would of liked to owned it but I know the man personally and he still has it.

Psalms 104. 1-7 King David wrote this psalms. Not only was David a king, he was a prophet. Ps 104:1 David saying just how great our Father is, after all God could speak and things would appear. Clothed in honor , God set the standard for honor, he is the most honorable. With Gods majesty, he can do whatever He wants. Ps104:2 he coverest thyself with light, God is the light. God was able to bring foreth the heaven as easy as hanging a curtain. Ps104:3 David goes on with the majesty the Father possesses. Makes mention of Gods chariots that walketh upon the wings of wind.

We know from Gods word that God uses what we may call UFOs, but are really the crafts that God uses to transport him and His thorn wherever he chooses to go, or when He comes to earth. It’s no doubt these are the same crafts that the fallen angels used to come to earth. Ezekiel spoke of these craft and even described them very well considering the only transportation he knew of was a animal drawn cart. The same craft that God came to earth and picked up Elijah. Those chariot of God would make our most advanced jets look like turtles.

This is just my account of seeing what I’d say were some of these crafts that are use by God. Two of my friends and I saw four of these ultra fast moving lights/objects in the heavens one at a time, each came out of one of the four corners of earth, in a 45 min period. These were the fastest moving light /object I’ve ever seen. They were extremely high, just using a figure, 50,000 feet but may have been much higher, they were very faint and small. If one wasn’t really looking closely you would never notice them. By the time we’d see them coming out of one of the four directions, they would streak across the heavens and be out of sight in less than five seconds. Sounds impossible but fact to me.

People who have watched satellites travel across the heaven can watch them for a few minutes before they go out of sight. Those satellites my friends are traveling at 17,500 mph. And the satellites moved like turtles in comparison to we all three saw. What were they, I can only surmise it could be these craft spoken of in the Bible. To traverse in space to get anywhere you must travel much faster than anything man has come up with. Hated to bore you all with that but this is a true story. Now back to the world that was, the very foundation of the creation of this planet earth, which is know as the 1st world age.

Psalms 104:4 who can make the very spirits/souls of life and his Elect/ministers of fire/authority Psalms 104:5 Who laid the the foundation of the earth. He not talking about the recreation of earth at the beginning of Genesis. He’s talking the very beginning or the making/creation of this planet. When this planet was hung in the orbit its in and made a very special planet that can substain life. Scientists have looked far and long and have never found a planet like earth. that it should not be removed for ever. It will always be a planet with Gods children on it.

Psalms 104:6-7 Now we get to the verses that seal the fact that it’s talking about the very foundation of the very beginning of God forming this planet and making it habitable. And then tells of, because of Satan overthrow, God caused the ferment to fall in and cover the whole earth above all the mountains. You might think this was talking of the waters of Noah’s flood. No way. Listen Psalms 104:7 AT THY REBUKE THEY FLED; AT THE VOICE OF THY THUNDER THEY HASTED AWAY. At Gods command the water fled and hasted away. Noah’s flood the waters weren’t rebuked by God and made to be hastened away. No, the water in Noah’s flood slowly receded over a period of about a year without any command from God.

Peter has a chapter written to the Elect to get them to remember that first world age. 2nd Peter 3:1-9 Peter is telling the Elect in this writing that he wants to stir up there remembrance of the first world age, the very foundation from when this planet was hung in it special orbit. That there would be scoffers/mockers saying where is the promise of his coming, he not coming, everything just cintinues the same.

2nd Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are IGNORANT of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2nd 3:6 Whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water, PERISHED: . This word (perished) it means totally utterly destroyed.

Noah’s flood sure didn’t totally destroy the heavens or for that fact not the world. The floods main reason was to get rid of the fallen angels, the giants, the misfits and that seed line that was birthing those hybrids, Most scholars don’t believe Noah’s flood was world wide but just the know world where the hybrids and the defiled seed line of Adam and Eve was located. That can’t be documented but real scholars believe this.

Peter 2nd Peter 3:7 Here’s where it changes and starts taking about this second world age, the one we are in at the present. 2nd Peter 2:7. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, this world age we are in now, the second world age, Gods same word is kept in store during the day of Judgement and the perdition of ungodly me. The word perdition means to parish, gone, done away with, to the point that not even their remenberence of them survives.

2nd Peter 3:8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2nd Peter 3:9 The lord is not slack concerning his promise, but is long suffering, meaning he has patiences, not willing or wanting to lose any of His children that are sure to perish if they don’t come to repentance.

Jeremiah 4:20-27 Destruction upon destruction the whole land is spoiled. This is the destruction of the first heaven age and the first world age. Did you know that even heaven was destroyed in this first world age? The results of Satan over throw. 4:21 for my people is foolish, they have not known me ; they are Scottish children, This word sottish means, stupid. And they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it’s was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. The earth and the heavens wasn’t created without form and void, they became that way after Satan’s overthrow. Noah’s flood didn’t destroy the heavens or the earth. When the waters receded the earth came back to life in a natural since. God didn’t recreat the earth again after Noah’s flood. God natural way of things brought the earth back to its fullness.

4:24 when the mountain trembled and the hills moved lightly. Scholars believe that the land was all one mass before Satan overthrow but when God destroyed the first world age, after Satan’s overthrow, being covered with water for millions of years the land mass broke up and drifted apart. When you look at map of the world continents they looks as if you could push the continents next to each other and see that maybe they did fit together at one time.

Here is the verse that let you know that this was not Noah’s flood 4:25. I beheld, and, lo, THERE WAS NO MAN, AND ALL THE BIRDS OF THE HEAVENS FLED. The birds vanished. Noah’s flood had eight pure generation adamic people aboard the ark and all the animals and two of every flesh of the peoples created on the sixth day. So you can see this could not be Noah’s flood.

4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. No God didn’t make a full end. Instead he set up a plan of salvation after Satan’s overthrow for those who will wake up and become a child of God. God loves his children and all he wants in return is his children to love him, cause they honestly desire to on their own. Not made or forced to love God, cause forced love is fake love.

Isaiah45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD, and there is none else.

This word vain, is the Hebrew word, H8414,in your Strongs. It’s the word, tohuw, pronounced, to’-hoo definition- formlessness, confusion, unreality, emotiness a) wasteland, empty or unreal. So you see by knowing proper meaning to a word, tohuw, it gives you better understanding. So what is said here is, God didn’t create this world from the foundation, from the very beginning, the first world age, void and without form, it became that way cause of our Fathers furious anger, over Satan’s deceiving one third of Gods children.

God makes a statement about wisdom and it goes like this, in all your getting, get wisdom first. Proverbs 8:20-36. Here is wisdom speaking. I’m Not going to quote all the verses but point out key points. 8:22 now this wisdom talking. The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works (OF OLD). The works of old is the very foundation, the beginning of the first world age. 23 from the beginning/foundation, or ever the earth was

. Wisdom is say our Father poses her before the earth was. When there were no fountains abounding with water. Water wasn’t upon the earth as of yet. 26 while as yet he had not made the earth, 27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there, wisdom was there with God. 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him; and I was daily his delight, This is wisdom speaking my friends 36. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

This post is getting way to long. There is more evidence of the three world ages in our Fathers word but I will close this post after discussing Jeremiah 1:5. This is God talking to Jeremiah. 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Now how did God know Jeremiah before God even formed him in the belly of his mother. Simple, Jeremiah was one of the one third that sided and fought with God against Satan In the first world age, during the over throw of Satan. Jeremiah was one of God’s Elect upon this earth carrying out the task God had for him to make His plan of salvation go down as prophesies.

There are many of Gods Elect upon this earth in these last days of this second world age. God needed more of the Elect in the last days cause Satan has sent more of his evil sons of God down in this end time cause he knows he had just a short time left.

That’s probably why we are seeing a lot more devilish events happening in today’s time. Even some of the political leaders are calling to ban the Bible. I thought that I heard on the news, in California, some law makers were calling for a total ban of the Bible in that state. That is unbelievable my friends. But it was God’s prophecy also. God said in the last days, that they would try and drive Him out of everything.

We are seeing that very fact taking place. Don’t worry my friends, God is still in control. I know it doesn’t look like it at times, but I assure you He is getting ready to pull the trigger and usher in the third world age, also know as the LORDS DAY, also know as the Millennium, that one thousand year period right before the, GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT DAY. After that day nothing but peace and harmony for God and His children. Praise God Almighty

Sorry my friends for the length of this post. Gods word can not be explained in just a few minutes or paragraphs.

One last note, I think Mechie has been studying with a world renown King James Bible scholar that I’m familiar with.
I'm sorry my friend. This makes no sense whatever...You're saying we were the sons of God in the Old Covenant? If so, there is NO scripture that backs that up. Not even one verse. There is not one single verse to back up your theory that we even existed before we were born in the flesh, right here on Earth. If you remember gathering with the sons of God in the throne room of God, then, you have a problem that needs to be dealt with. I don't like being so blunt, but there it is. You need to go back to square one, even to getting born again all over, just to make a fresh new start. Everything you said above clashes with the Word!
Mr Bullinger was no doubt a good man, but he was only a man. It appears that you spent more time studying his opinions than you did the Word. I'm not entirely clear on what a dispensationalist is, but God did not divide up history into sections with different rules and scenarios...History flows. God created the heavens and the Earth, Because Satan and his Fallen Angels it was destroyed, then God rebuilt it. That's the way it flowed. Just like men were living on the Earth when Adolf Hitler got greedy for power and had to be put in his place, but in the meanwhile millions died, It took a while but eventually peace returned to the world.......History flows....no dispensational walls...unless YOU put them up.
 
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Sorry Bendito, my friend, for you not being able to see the first world age that was before, Satan’s rebellion, were he deceived one third of Gods children into following him. It’s as plain as day to me from the documentation I gave in my Fathers word. There a good reason why some can’t see and understand the three world ages. This is strong meat of Gods word.

Only God can open ones spiritual eyes to these events that happened before Noah’s flood. That’s just the way it is. Duet 29:2. Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to PERCEIVE, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. You see, only and I mean only God can opens one’s spiritual eyes and ears, and the verse I just quoted, “until this day”and it will be your, “until this day,” may be up ahead. I can run the truths over the buds of your mind, but ONLY GOD CAN OPEN ONES SPIRITUAL EYES AND EARS. PERIOD.

You won’t get a argument out of me, over one not being able to see this strong meat. God prophesied that many would not see and understand these things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Matt 13:35. God makes it very clear that even many preachers/holy men would worship anti christ thinking he was the true Christ. Why, I have no idea. CAUSE IT IS WRITTEN!!! CHRIST MAKES THIS STATEMENT A FEW TIMES, “HAVE YOU NOT READ”.

Guess they listened to mans words instead of God word. Bendito, Just cause you can’t see it in God’s word doesn’t make it not so. I will always listen to a world renown King James Bible scholar before I take the word of a one verse Charlie. If the shoe fits, wear it. That’s just a figure of speech, cause there are some Charlie’s out there that pretty salty in the word of God.

Bendito, God DID NOT destroy his children souls, the very essence of life, at the destruction of the first world age, after Satan’s overthrow. God has set up this plan of salvation to save his children, not to destroy them. He placed the souls, the very essence of life, of each child in another body then birthed them back upon this earth through the womb of woman, one at a time, in this present world earth age so they could choose who they would follow, him or Satan.

You profess are a Christian, so must believe when a flash man dies, only that flesh body dies, not the soul/spirit. The soul/spirit goes back to the one that gave it, that’s our Father. The people that have already died in the flesh bodies, are still just as aware of us as we are of them. But they are with the Father. I didn’t say that they all of them were in the best of standings with God. It’s just where everyone goes when this flesh body lays down or dies. The millennium is still up ahead, this will be the last proving ground for Gods children. How long will the millennium last? 1000 years. Ain’t no guessing on this time period my friend, it’s locked in.

This world age is a proving ground to separate the ones that love our Father from the ones that don’t. Those that choose Satan’s ways are done away with at that , GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT. It’s pretty simple my friend.

Deuteronomy 29:4 YET, he hasn’t done it yet, THE (LORD) HATH NOT GIVEN YOU AN HEART TO PERCEIVE, AND EYES TO SEE, AND EARS TO HEAR, UNTO THIS DAY. YOU DIG MY FRIEND?
 
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Sorry Bendito, my friend, for you not being able to see the first world age that was before, Satan’s rebellion, were he deceived one third of Gods children into following him. It’s as plain as day to me from the documentation I gave in my Fathers word. There a good reason why some can’t see and understand the three world ages. This is strong meat of Gods word.

Only God can open ones spiritual eyes to these events that happened before Noah’s flood. That’s just the way it is. Duet 29:2. Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to PERCEIVE, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. You see, only and I mean only God can opens one’s spiritual eyes and ears, and the verse I just quoted, “until this day”and it will be your, “until this day,” may be up ahead. I can run the truths over the buds of your mind, but ONLY GOD CAN OPEN ONES SPIRITUAL EYES AND EARS. PERIOD.

You won’t get a argument out of me, over one not being able to see this strong meat. God prophesied that many would not see and understand these things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Matt 13:35. God makes it very clear that even many preachers/holy men would worship anti christ thinking he was the true Christ. Why, I have no idea. CAUSE IT IS WRITTEN!!! CHRIST MAKES THIS STATEMENT A FEW TIMES, “HAVE YOU NOT READ”.

Guess they listened to mans words instead of God word. Bendito, Just cause you can’t see it in God’s word doesn’t make it not so. I will always listen to a world renown King James Bible scholar before I take the word of a one verse Charlie. If the shoe fits, wear it. That’s just a figure of speech, cause there are some Charlie’s out there that pretty salty in the word of God.

Bendito, God DID NOT destroy his children souls, the very essence of life, at the destruction of the first world age, after Satan’s overthrow. God has set up this plan of salvation to save his children, not to destroy them. He placed the souls, the very essence of life, of each child in another body then birthed them back upon this earth through the womb of woman, one at a time, in this present world earth age so they could choose who they would follow, him or Satan.

You profess are a Christian, so must believe when a flash man dies, only that flesh body dies, not the soul/spirit. The soul/spirit goes back to the one that gave it, that’s our Father. The people that have already died in the flesh bodies, are still just as aware of us as we are of them. But they are with the Father. I didn’t say that they all of them were in the best of standings with God. It’s just where everyone goes when this flesh body lays down or dies. The millennium is still up ahead, this will be the last proving ground for Gods children. How long will the millennium last? 1000 years. Ain’t no guessing on this time period my friend, it’s locked in.

This world age is a proving ground to separate the ones that love our Father from the ones that don’t. Those that choose Satan’s ways are done away with at that , GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT. It’s pretty simple my friend.

Deuteronomy 29:4 YET, he hasn’t done it yet, THE (LORD) HATH NOT GIVEN YOU AN HEART TO PERCEIVE, AND EYES TO SEE, AND EARS TO HEAR, UNTO THIS DAY. YOU DIG MY FRIEND?
I wonder why it is that those in deception believe that everyone who disagrees with them is not capable of taking 'strong meat'? I am well aware that Satan rebelled and led a full third of angels to Earth. I'm fully aware of the things that happened afterward, though not in full detail, which no man can know at this time.
Unfortunately, the lord, that gave you eyes to see, is not the Lord. Again...There is not one single scripture that says you existed before you were born in the flesh. There is not one single scripture that says the 'sons of God' are human spirits. And there is no way you could possibly remember heaven since you have never been there before you were born in the flesh. I do not see it in Gods word because it is not there. If you see it there, its because of deception. The 'wisdom you share.....
James 3:15-18 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

15 This wisdom is not the kind that comes down from above; on the contrary, it is worldly, unspiritual, demonic. 16 For where there are jealousy and selfish ambition, there will be disharmony and every foul practice. 17 But the wisdom from above is, first of all, pure, then peaceful, kind, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 And peacemakers who sow seed in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.
There was a time when I was where you are now. I understand how it feels to think you have the truth and the loneliness of being the only one who has that wisdom.
James 3:15-18 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

15 This wisdom is not the kind that comes down from above; on the contrary, it is worldly, unspiritual, demonic. 16 For where there are jealousy and selfish ambition, there will be disharmony and every foul practice. 17 But the wisdom from above is, first of all, pure, then peaceful, kind, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 And peacemakers who sow seed in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.
 
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Sorry Bendito, my friend, for you not being able to see the first world age that was before, Satan’s rebellion, were he deceived one third of Gods children into following him. It’s as plain as day to me from the documentation I gave in my Fathers word. There a good reason why some can’t see and understand the three world ages. This is strong meat of Gods word.

Only God can open ones spiritual eyes to these events that happened before Noah’s flood. That’s just the way it is. Duet 29:2. Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to PERCEIVE, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. You see, only and I mean only God can opens one’s spiritual eyes and ears, and the verse I just quoted, “until this day”and it will be your, “until this day,” may be up ahead. I can run the truths over the buds of your mind, but ONLY GOD CAN OPEN ONES SPIRITUAL EYES AND EARS. PERIOD.

You won’t get a argument out of me, over one not being able to see this strong meat. God prophesied that many would not see and understand these things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Matt 13:35. God makes it very clear that even many preachers/holy men would worship anti christ thinking he was the true Christ. Why, I have no idea. CAUSE IT IS WRITTEN!!! CHRIST MAKES THIS STATEMENT A FEW TIMES, “HAVE YOU NOT READ”.

Guess they listened to mans words instead of God word. Bendito, Just cause you can’t see it in God’s word doesn’t make it not so. I will always listen to a world renown King James Bible scholar before I take the word of a one verse Charlie. If the shoe fits, wear it. That’s just a figure of speech, cause there are some Charlie’s out there that pretty salty in the word of God.

Bendito, God DID NOT destroy his children souls, the very essence of life, at the destruction of the first world age, after Satan’s overthrow. God has set up this plan of salvation to save his children, not to destroy them. He placed the souls, the very essence of life, of each child in another body then birthed them back upon this earth through the womb of woman, one at a time, in this present world earth age so they could choose who they would follow, him or Satan.

You profess are a Christian, so must believe when a flash man dies, only that flesh body dies, not the soul/spirit. The soul/spirit goes back to the one that gave it, that’s our Father. The people that have already died in the flesh bodies, are still just as aware of us as we are of them. But they are with the Father. I didn’t say that they all of them were in the best of standings with God. It’s just where everyone goes when this flesh body lays down or dies. The millennium is still up ahead, this will be the last proving ground for Gods children. How long will the millennium last? 1000 years. Ain’t no guessing on this time period my friend, it’s locked in.

This world age is a proving ground to separate the ones that love our Father from the ones that don’t. Those that choose Satan’s ways are done away with at that , GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT. It’s pretty simple my friend.

Deuteronomy 29:4 YET, he hasn’t done it yet, THE (LORD) HATH NOT GIVEN YOU AN HEART TO PERCEIVE, AND EYES TO SEE, AND EARS TO HEAR, UNTO THIS DAY. YOU DIG MY FRIEND?
Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

How do you explain away the verses above that pretty much reproves what it is you think you are seeing in scripture?
 
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