Getting Spanked.

[Chopper]

Hebrews 12:5 "And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? "My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him.
12:6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives."
12:7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
12:8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons." (ESV)

Heb 12:5 "And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons." (KJV)

Do you folk know how a person can know If the trial or physical illness is a normal occurrence, or if it's the chastening hand of God. Here's a verse to chew on....Do you all think that these verses in 1 Cor. are the chastening hand of the Lord?

1Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body
11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

Well ,God is love and love does not demand it's own way so the only way I can figure out to chastise or discipline someone without demanding my own way would be to let them have there own way and wait and see how that works out for them.

It says they eat and drink damnation unto themselves.
The Lord's body is is the Lord's and there is no room for self.
Love your neighbor as yourself means that your neighbor is yourself.
If you judge your neighbor as unworthy you have made yourself unworthy of the same love and mercy that you withhold from your neighbor..
Love does not deal in sin,sickness or death.The Lord does not give what he does not have.

1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.

If you are going to enter into a body that is made of love then enter with love and not judgement,not even judgement of your self.
The world was condemned,why would God send a son to judge a condemned world unless the judgement was something different than the previous judgement.
Do judges go to the prison to judge prisoners or are they already judged and sentenced?
The only reason a judge gets involved in a case of condemnation is to possibly overthrow the judgement.
So if God came to judge a condemned world what kind of judgement would seem appropriate?

It seems to me that when you examine yourself you should not find you,I suppose you should find love
that comes from and goes to that great body of love.What else could be worthy of the body

 

[KingJ]

Love your neighbor as yourself means that your neighbor is yourself.

Interesting way to see it.

 

[KingJ]

Do you folk know how a person can know If the trial or physical illness is a normal occurrence, or if it's the chastening hand of God. Here's a verse to chew on....Do you all think that these verses in 1 Cor. are the chastening hand of the Lord?

Yes. If we have unrepentant sin it is chastening. If not it is a trial. I don't think the verses you quoted in 1 Cor 11 could be clearer.

 

[Curtis]

1Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body
11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

I for one do not believe the Lord God uses "sickness" to discipline his children. The scriptures tells us how the Lord corrects his children that have gone astray.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Eating and drinking "unworthily" is by not understanding (discerning) the Lord body by which he bore our sicknesses, and carried our diseases in his own body on the cross, and by his stripes we were healed. If the Church never understands this or never confesses the Word of God of what we already have, then sickness will take it's course, and many will die before their time.

11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body
11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep

It would not make any sense for God to put sickness on us when Jesus bore our sickness in his body.

 

[Chopper]

I for one do not believe the Lord God uses "sickness" to discipline his children. The scriptures tells us how the Lord corrects his children that have gone astray.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Eating and drinking "unworthily" is by not understanding (discerning) the Lord body by which he bore our sicknesses, and carried our diseases in his own body on the cross, and by his stripes we were healed. If the Church never understands this or never confesses the Word of God of what we already have, then sickness will take it's course, and many will die before their time.

11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body
11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep

It would not make any sense for God to put sickness on us when Jesus bore our sickness in his body.

Interesting thoughts, thanks.