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newnature

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Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind. The great usurper and his fellow usurpers want to keep sin on the table of God’s justice today, as much in the Age of Grace as he has in the other ages.
 
Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind. The great usurper and his fellow usurpers want to keep sin on the table of God’s justice today, as much in the Age of Grace as he has in the other ages.

Keep in mind my friend....If you do something WRONG and you don't ask God to forgive you, then Satan can and will come after you...Guilt and shame and blame are his weapons against you....and he uses them skillfully...
When you ask Father for forgiveness He lets you KNOW that you are forgiven which in turn gives you a club to swing at the enemy Satan...."See? God has forgiven me...so guess what? It never happened!
We may not have to ask because its already done, but its smart to anyway.
 
Keep in mind my friend....If you do something WRONG and you don't ask God to forgive you, then Satan can and will come after you...Guilt and shame and blame are his weapons against you....and he uses them skillfully...
When you ask Father for forgiveness He lets you KNOW that you are forgiven which in turn gives you a club to swing at the enemy Satan...."See? God has forgiven me...so guess what? It never happened!
We may not have to ask because its already done, but its smart to anyway.

I always thank God for what he made me to be in Christ. But God what all of us to be aware that we are vulnerable to Satan and his forces deception than to any of their other schemes, because when they tempt us or accuse us, we can recognize it, but when they deceive us, we do not always know it, that is their strategy, to keep us in the dark.

We cannot expose their deception by human reasoning; we can only do it by the light of the truth, it is the only valid piece of the armor against the darkness of deception. It is critical that when we put on the armor of God, we start with the belt of truth, because the only thing big about Satan and his forces are their mouth, they are habitual liars.
 
We are forgiven for the sins up to the moment of salvation.
But John says... "IF" we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us... ( 1 Jn 1:9; )

Even those of us who have been washed clean by the blood, still need our feet washed every now and then.
( John 13:10; )

Finally... some of our forgiveness after salvation depends on how we forgive. ( Matt 6:15; Matt 18:34-35;
Mark 11:26; etc.. )
 
Today people think they have to ask God to forgive them for the sins that God is no longer charging to their account in the first place. Ministers of righteousness would have people believe God is not totally reconciled in his mind. The great usurper and his fellow usurpers want to keep sin on the table of God’s justice today, as much in the Age of Grace as he has in the other ages.
I think this very good @newnature .I know that many would disagree but, you make a valid point!
Hebrews :8-12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
Hebrews 10:17 Then he adds: "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."
Isaiah 10:24 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.
Jeremiah 31:34 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
I just don't know how many ways God has to say it before one believes. The problem with some,dis-spite what God says, they feel that Grace is not one-side and therefore must do something. One of the manifestation of this, is the feeling they must take charge of their sin and be more responsible. You should hate sin and have a repentant heart but, breaking down every sin and going to God is not what he requires. I think he would be saying " why are you coming to me for something I have already provided?" Of course, there are some that would say " I am saying , I can sin all I want!" Nothing could be further from the truth, thank God making see sin and for Romans 8:1!
 
I think this very good @newnature .I know that many would disagree but, you make a valid point!
Hebrews :8-12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
Hebrews 10:17 Then he adds: "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."
Isaiah 10:24 "I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.
Jeremiah 31:34 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
I just don't know how many ways God has to say it before one believes. The problem with some,dis-spite what God says, they feel that Grace is not one-side and therefore must do something. One of the manifestation of this, is the feeling they must take charge of their sin and be more responsible. You should hate sin and have a repentant heart but, breaking down every sin and going to God is not what he requires. I think he would be saying " why are you coming to me for something I have already provided?" Of course, there are some that would say " I am saying , I can sin all I want!" Nothing could be further from the truth, thank God making see sin and for Romans 8:1!

What is religion all about, it is called, walking after the flesh. When Paul talks about walking after the flesh, he’s not talking about continuing a sinful lifestyle, as most suppose that he has in mind. To walk after the flesh, is to attribute to the flesh the ability through performance to earn a righteous, or more righteous standing before God.

All who think that their performance can gain them heaven are proving their lack of understanding, when it comes to Paul’s use of the term “flesh”, rather they sit in an assembly where sin is being continually hammered in some manner, to keep people on the right track. To walk after the flesh is to suppose that righteousness comes from or sourced from what we do, or what we refuse not to do, what we commit or promise not to do again.

Faith, we learn the necessity of a total abandonment of any notion, that any person can merit righteousness before God through the performance of the flesh, and that we must place our trust solely in the fact that God accomplished our salvation for us through his son’s death, when he judged his son for our sin debt.

When ungodly people are willing to simply take God at his Word, abandoning any notion that they can merit a righteous standing with God through their performance, and trust solely in what Christ accomplished for them, having resolved that issue of their sins, God’s power from on high performs a miracle in those people’s lives by uniting those believers with Christ himself.
 
We are forgiven for the sins up to the moment of salvation.
But John says... "IF" we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us... ( 1 Jn 1:9; )

Even those of us who have been washed clean by the blood, still need our feet washed every now and then.
( John 13:10; )

Finally... some of our forgiveness after salvation depends on how we forgive. ( Matt 6:15; Matt 18:34-35;
Mark 11:26; etc.. )

In God’s eyes we are no longer who we once were, we are now the new creation, being forever joined to our savior. Paul is not talking about a believer gaining sinful perfection at the point of their belief or at any other time for that manner. A person who believes that sin in others proves a lack of salvation, is a person who is over looking the sin in themselves, that individual is thinking more highly of themselves than they ought.

Paul did not say eliminate our sin nature all together. Instead, Paul said mortify it, render it functionally inoperative, do not allow it to reach it’s final culmination, which is separation and division. While it will always be present with us, we do not have to allow it to rule and reign in our life or to fracture others who happen across our path.
 
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