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Five Baptisms

jeremiah1five

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There are five baptisms, or immersions, in a believers life. All are controlled by God.

1. Water Baptism:
Mark 1:8
8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.


2. Holy Spirit Baptism:
Mark 1:8
8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

3. The Baptism of Suffering:
Mark 10:38-39
38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?
39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:



4. The Baptism of Fire:
Luke 3:16
16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:


5. The Baptism of Love:
1 John 4:8
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1 John 4:13
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
(Note: this was the very purpose of our creation, to dwell in, and be immersed in His love)
 
I tend to think the baptism in fire is the same thing as Jesus mentions when He mentions the cup of suffering. Also, I don't really see the baptism of love in the scriptures you posted, though I surely agree God's love is so massive and enveloping we will never comprehend it.
 
I think there are really only two ! water , the HOLY GHOST ! I think Jesus baptism was More a Anointing ! God puts His type LOVe within all who are Born of HIM ! He says He puts HIS laws in our heart [spirit] Love and faith !

Only one is important to us !That done by the HOLY GHOST! then we get anointed for the work He has called us too ! But this is just the way i see it ! Others might see it differently ! I do not mind!

He puts Faith in all mankind, so we can have salvation ! It grows in some and dies in others ! He puts Love in all those born again ! He wants us to LOVe with His perfect LOVE!
 
I think there are really only two ! water , the HOLY GHOST ! I think Jesus baptism was More a Anointing ! God puts His type LOVe within all who are Born of HIM ! He says He puts HIS laws in our heart [spirit] Love and faith !

Only one is important to us !That done by the HOLY GHOST! then we get anointed for the work He has called us too ! But this is just the way i see it ! Others might see it differently ! I do not mind!

He puts Faith in all mankind, so we can have salvation ! It grows in some and dies in others ! He puts Love in all those born again ! He wants us to LOVe with His perfect LOVE!
There is truly only one. Holy Spirit baptism. But within the Holy Spirit baptism are several "immersions" a believer goes through. The baptism of suffering is what we as believers will undergo in this life as we follow Christ in His passion. Christ never said He would take us out of suffering, but that He would go through it with us together. The baptism of fire is the sanctification process believers go through as we are being conformed to the image of Christ. The baptism of love is the purpose of our creation in Christ. God is love, and although we dwell in Him by His Spirit and He is us, there will come a time in which the anointing gives way to full immersion of God's love.
Water baptism does not save. However, it symbolizes the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. When we are obedient as believers to be baptized in water, the Jordan River Jesus was baptized in represented "death." It represents the grave. It is a public testimony and witness to the world that Jesus Christ is our Lord and we will follow Him. And no man can follow Christ without the Holy Spirit.
 
I tend to think the baptism in fire is the same thing as Jesus mentions when He mentions the cup of suffering. Also, I don't really see the baptism of love in the scriptures you posted, though I surely agree God's love is so massive and enveloping we will never comprehend it.
Suffering is indiscriminate. Everybody goes through suffering, but not everyone is baptized in the Holy Ghost. Only His people. He has been Promised to those in Covenant with God. And from the Holy Ghost the baptism of fire is the sanctification process a believer goes through as God conforms us to the image of Christ (Rom. 8:29). Fire purifies. Fire burns off the dross of our fleshly and carnal life and we are left with purity of life in Christ.

The baptism of love in this life is not the total envelopment of God upon the believer. It is only an anointing. There is still yet a future day in which the total Presence of God will envelop the believer.
 
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5. The Baptism of Love:
1 John 4:8
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1 John 4:13
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
(Note: this was the very purpose of our creation, to dwell in, and be immersed in His love)

Very good study J15, continuing on in 1John 4
God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.17 And as we live in God, our love grows more perfect. So we will not be afraid on the day of judgment, but we can face him with confidence because we live like Jesus here in this world.
18 Such love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have not fully experienced his perfect love.
1 John 4:16-18 (NLT)

another scripture example of a baptism of love is Ephesians 3:19.
May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully. Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.
Eph 3:19 (NLT)
 
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We should be growing in our spirit man and filling our flesh mind with GOD living Word! replacing the thoughts left by our old spirit man !
THE bible calls it renewing our flesh mind !

OLD MAN is our old spirit ! New Man is our NEW Spirit

Rom_6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Eph_4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Col_3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;



Heb_5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb_5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
1Pe_2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:


Eph_2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph_4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Col_3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Rom_7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
2Co_4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.



Rom_12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
We need to read our bible and accept those things in our flesh mind and start living them in faith !


Rom_5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
We have everything in our spirit at salvation except the anointing ! Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Joh_14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Rom_8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Heb_13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Luk_11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

The HOLY GHOST is GOD POWER! We get HIm dwelling in us at salvation !

Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.



It automatic , we get HIS power at salvation !

1Jn_2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

2Co_3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


Rev_19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

We must believe it to LIVE IT !

He is NO respecter of persons ! IT NEVER PERSONAL ! It all by Faith !

Act_10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Rom_2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

Listen All our spirits are perfect at salvation ! None greater or less! Each part of HIS family and Priesthood !

We are all sinners in the flesh !
1Co_6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

When we think some how we are better or getting better ? We are only being tricked by the devil !
We are All equal in our LORD! HE Alone is the heade of HIS church! He does give the gifts as needed in His body! But , He can use any of us at any time where needed ! The anointing are different , But they Do not make us More! Our rewards will be different !

Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

We are All grafted into the same Tribe ! The new Priesthood Judah !
Heb_7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Rev_5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Heb_7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
The law is LOVe and Faith the priesthood judah

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In the flesh we are different in the Spirit we are All equal here!

1Ti_5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

We honor those in power over us ! But we do not perfer them over other brothers and Sisters in the LORD !

We Love all equally ! They are all important to us !

Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Rom_6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom_8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,

Each of us have everything we will ever need to be more than conquerors and over comers at Salvation ! None of us are lacking. we just need to know the truth ! The truth sets us FREE ! We All have walk and live in HIS POWER! demon shake with fear when we walk by !


Mat_16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat_18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

GOd has made each of us part of HIS family and household! joint heirs with our LORD JESUS CHRIST forever more ! We need to know and understand it and LIVE it!
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
This is the way i see it ! i lived it pretty much and i AM NO MORE than the LEAST IN HIS BODY !

Gal_4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Our spirits are All made in HIS image at salvation ! JEsus was the Last Adam 1 Adam meaning begfinning!

He really started a New Race of beings made like HIM !
1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
We just need to know the truth ! Eph_3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
 
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Very good study J15, continuing on in 1John 4
God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.17 And as we live in God, our love grows more perfect. So we will not be afraid on the day of judgment, but we can face him with confidence because we live like Jesus here in this world.
18 Such love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have not fully experienced his perfect love.
1 John 4:16-18 (NLT)

another scripture example of a baptism of love is Ephesians 3:19.
May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully. Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.
Eph 3:19 (NLT)
Jiggyfly, let's not forget that the love we experience of God is only an anointing (unction), it is not the totality of His Presence. Our final destination is back into Trinity where we first began. THAT is an immersion we have not yet received.
 
But I wonder if every one matures spiritually and grows closer to God because of it?
Every believer does, but only as much as their measure of faith dictates (Rom. 12:3). Some have more faith, some less. God determines how much we are predestined to know and of that knowledge of Him, trust.
 
When We walk More in our Spirit We are closer 1 But really we are as close as we can get! But we hear HIm better when we live more thur our Spirit ! He always with us ! But it our spirit that is the Child of GOD! It cannot be closer !He never leaves us or forsakes Us 1 He is here within us , our spirit!

That Why HE tells us to walk in our spirit !


I found fasting three days water only !Reading our bible and praying ! Then we will hear HIM WELL!
 
I love the brethren.

And when I first find this out about you, then you got that coming.

Until then, I don't know who you are except that you showed yourself hard-heart-ed with your "What's your point" comment. My other two visitors "got" my point. And if you would have asked for more in order to "get" the point, I may have provided some. Instead, you deadpanned and were dismissive. That was unloving.
 
Have you ever fasted those three days and just reading Scripture warm tears would roll and fall from your eyes? Just from reading Scripture? (KJV).
 
FASTING is a REAL Spiritual battle ! satan does not want us walking in our inward man! he knows we hear the LORD WELL and can do His perfect will then !

Mar_2:20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
Luk_5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

Mat_9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

Isa_58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily:

Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am
 
FASTING is a REAL Spiritual battle ! satan does not want us walking in our inward man! he knows we hear the LORD WELL and can do His perfect will then !
Actually, it is a fleshly battle. In order to fast we must overcome our flesh. But in a fast after the first day it becomes easier.
 
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