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Fire in the Sky

Discussion in 'Evidence & Prophecy' started by Eric E Stahl, Apr 3, 2012.

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    2 Peter 3:10–15 KJV
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
    14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

    Revelation 6:12–14 KJV
    12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
    13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

    Isaiah 34:1–8 KJV
    34 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth
    hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.
    2 For the indignation of the Lord is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
    3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
    4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

    Another Old Testament prophet, Isaiah, also foresaw the nuclear war and he prophesied that the heavens will burn and roll up as a scroll. Apparently, all of the airplanes and nuclear missiles will fall from the sky during the war when the atmosphere burns. This judgment will be on all nations.

    Isaiah 51:5–11 KJV
    5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.
    6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

    Isaiah 25:1–7 KJV
    4 For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.
    5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers, as the heat in a dry place; even the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low.
    6 And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
    7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

    In Isaiah 30:25–26, it says that the sun will become seven times stronger in the day of great slaughter. The day of great slaughter happens when the nuclear war takes place and the ozone layer is burned up as a scroll. Malachi 4:1 says that the earth will burn as an oven. In looking to the encyclopedia to see what parts of the atmosphere can burn, you will discover that the ozone is a triple oxygen molecule.
    The ozone layer and the hydrogen layer are next to each other in the atmosphere above the earth. The chemical reaction when they burn is as follows:
    Heat + oxygen + hydrogen = H2O (water) + greater heat
    The ozone and hydrogen layers will be set on fire over Israel by an atomic blast, and then they will burn like the Hindenburg blimp. When the ozone and hydrogen burn, it will form hot water vapor that will condense into water droplets that will then become rain, which will form great hailstones that will fall to the earth along with torrential rain. When the atmosphere burns, the heavens will roll up as a scroll all the way around the earth, over every nation.

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  2. #2 jari, Apr 3, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2012
    God needs nukes to clear the sky?
    at the day of the Lord?

    I don't think so..... i doup't any human made thing will have match for what God makes
  3. #3 Eric E Stahl, Apr 3, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2012

    The blast belongs to the terrible ones. Isaiah 25:4 KJV

    Isaiah 26:11 KJV the fire of thine enemies will devour them.

    Jeremiah 25:14-15, 29-33 KJV When the Lord sends out his cup of judgment
    men send evil from nation to nation that looks like a great whirlwinds and leave dead over the whole earth.
  4. hmm well i still think God makes His own fire.

    as this happens at His coming..

    (Luk 21:27) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

    power of His own.. Glory of His own...

    those two imply something else than Nukes. which are man made things and not God's glory or power.

    so i have to disagree with the book your reading..
  5. The nuclear fire falls in the sixth seal when the stars fall and the heavens are rolled up as a scroll. See my post on the sixth seal to see other scriptures on the sixth seal and the nuclear fire.

    When Jesus comes as the lightning, It will be his glory that shines as bright as the sun in it's strength Rev1:16.

    PS I wrote "America's Last Warning", that is why I can quote it.
  6. ok i understand you considering Jesus still to have glory of His own at His coming.

    if earths atmosphere would disapear the life on earth would cease of course. so it's pretty wild theory in that sense.
  7. Jari,

    I believe it will be only the ozone and hydrogen layers that will burn when a hot cloud from a nuclear blast mixes them and starts them on fire. Ozone is pure oxygen. heat plus oxygen plus hydrogen = H2O or water vapor that will form rain and hail.

  8. This is why Jesus makes the heavens new when he comes.
  9. Hello Eric.

    I think your playing a losing position on this one.

    No one knows just how some of these events
    will unfold. It is usually guess work on our behalf.

    You stated the following;

    "The ozone layer and the hydrogen layer are next to each other
    in the atmosphere above the earth. The chemical reaction when they burn is as follows:

    Heat + oxygen + hydrogen = H2O (water) + greater heat"

    Is this an attempt at some type of chemical equation?

  10. The ozone layer is a layer in Earth's atmosphere containing relatively
    high concentrations of ozone (O3). However, "relatively high," in the case of ozone,
    is still very small with regard to ordinary oxygen, and is less than 10 parts per million,
    with the average ozone concentration in Earth's atmosphere being only about 0.6 parts
    per million. The ozone layer is mainly located in the lower portion of the stratosphere
    from approximately 20 to 30 kilometres (12 to 19 mi) above Earth,
    though the thickness varies seasonally and geographically. (wikipedia)

    A nuclear blast would not reach the stratosphere Eric
    hence it is a remote probability, virtually zero. Concentrations of Ozone
    are miniscule.

    Since the Karman line (which serves as the boundary between the
    Earth’s immediate atmosphere and outer space) is found in the lower region
    of the Thermosphere, much of this layer of gases in the atmosphere is considered
    outer space. Finally, the exosphere, being the outermost layer, is where you can find
    the lightest gases: hydrogen and helium.

    Very low concentrations of Ozone and Hydrogen measured in parts
    per million. Your suggested scenario is ridiculous to say the least.

    I suggest a course in Chemistry may be in order.

    Your king is in check and you are short of time my friend.
  11. Exodus 24:17
    And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

    I think the raw presence of God is something that a corrupt creation cannot endure any better than, well, wax can handle flame (Psalm 97:5).
  12. A nuclear blast may not have the force needed for this type of disturbance, what what about some new technology, or a type of particle that has just been discovered by smashing atoms together.

    But before those things this is what Jesus warned about..

    The plagues of Egypt were real life things. We don't know what God used as far as technology to cause those things to happen, but we know they were by His hand according to His will.
  13. David777,
    Consider an EMP weapon which is designed to be detonated at high altitude. It would clear the sky of all incoming missiles and troupe planes.Isaiah 34:1-4 tells us the host of the heavens will fall down.The war will happen during the 6th seal judgment when the stars look like they are falling and the heavens roll up as a scroll.Revelation 6:12-17
    Isaiah 51:6 says the heaves will burn as a smoke.

    David what do you think will burn in the atmosphere?
  14. I don't know about the math of this but i may have something to offer; at one point this may very well happen as described. in addition to the scriptures already quoted we also have the witness of sahdrach, meshach, and abednego, which three were thrown into a furnace for staying true to their god. Which furnace was heated seven times hotter insomuch that the men who opened it were slain by the heat; yet the three - or more correctly four - lived within the fire, in the furnace. Don't forget, they were cast in for not worshiping the statue, or more precisely, the image of the beast; so shall it be at the end for was not that the shadow of things to come?

    Is it not also written that jesus returns to destroy those who destroy the earth?

    i had a vision some time back.

    i was standing street-level in some large city with tall buildings. the sky was on fire like a storm front moving in and people were running toward me with great fear etched onto heir faces. i stood there yelling, "stand still and you shall not be harmed." but they just kept running.
  15. amanhumblinhart
    When the sun scorches men in the tribulation Rev 16:8-9 it will be 7 times its normal strength Isaiah 30:25-26 it will kill men.

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