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It is interesting how much a ripple of truth can shake the whole river. I found that there are many people that won't allow the truth to change them, rather they choose to fight against it.

The Pharisees were the most lost because they thought they could see. How blind must someone be to think they are not able to be deceived? The devil loves such arrogance.

What is the point of this post? Well, it is to share a video that finally shines the light on what ALL so-called Christian churches are keeping in the dark. In every church building their is a conspiracy against promoting one... thing, and they are all united in it. This one thing is what will determine those walking the narrow way (to life), compared to those walking the broad way (to destruction). I won't be surprised if nobody agrees with the message on the video, however, my job as an ambassador of Christ is to get His message out no matter the names, threats, or backlash that comes from proclaiming His Word.

Don't watch this video if you are not prepared to have your beliefs shaken!!! You were warned...

bit.ly/Jesusteachings

In Peace & Love
 
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It is interesting how much a ripple of truth can shake the whole river. I found that there are many people that won't allow the truth to change them, rather they choose to fight against it.

The Pharisees were the most lost because they thought they could see. How blind must someone be to think they are not able to be deceived? The devil loves such arrogance.

What is the point of this post? Well, it is to share a video that finally shines the light on what ALL so-called Christian churches are keeping in the dark. In every church building their is a conspiracy against promoting one... thing, and they are all united in it. This one thing is what will determine those walking the narrow way (to life), compared to those walking the broad way (to destruction). I won't be surprised if nobody agrees with the message on the video, however, my job as an ambassador of Christ is to get His message out no matter the names, threats, or backlash that comes from proclaiming His Word.

Don't watch this video if you are not prepared to have your beliefs shaken!!! You were warned...

bit.ly/Jesusteachings

In Peace & Love
I am quite willing to have my beliefs shaken. I was told by a Bible teacher once that if your beliefs can be shaken, then they need to be shaken. To which I agree. But, I just don't feel like watching a video. So, could you sum up what this is that may shake my beliefs?

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I am quite willing to have my beliefs shaken. I was told by a Bible teacher once that if your beliefs can be shaken, then they need to be shaken. To which I agree. But, I just don't feel like watching a video. So, could you sum up what this is that may shake my beliefs?

Quantrill
I agree. God is ever wanting to share more with us, but we tend to shy away from that type of change. Have you ever found it interesting that when God (or a messenger) speaks he usually starts with "fear not"? Why is that?

Besides the point. In a simple explanation, the video is describing how the churches put emphasis on all the other books of the bible, instead of the gospels of Jesus. They do this because no church is teachings people to listen and obey what Jesus taught. Therefore, putting importance on other parts is a clever way to make Jesus' words seem less important by comparison. This doctrine has caused a widespread heresy of people focusing on other people in the Bible for their means of salvation, rather than coming to Jesus for the message of salvation. This is evident when Jesus starts to speak, and the churches turn to another part of the Bible to basically say that Jesus didn't know what he was talking about. This is how the church treats Jesus and His words as recorded in the Gospels.

For example, the Bible teaches that JESUS is the word of God. But the churches teach that the 66 books of the BIBLE is the word of God. Are those books inspired? Definitely, however, should any of those books negate the words of our Lord Jesus? Absolutely not.

I really encourage you to check out the video, because what I shared is just the tip of the iceberg. They posted a second video that I have yet to see, so I am keen to see what else they put out.

In peace
 
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I agree. God is ever wanting to share more with us, but we tend to shy away from that type of change. Have you ever found it interesting that when God (or a messenger) speaks he usually starts with "fear not"? Why is that?

Besides the point. In a simple explanation, the video is describing how the churches put emphasis on all the other books of the bible, instead of the gospels of Jesus. They do this because no church is teachings people to listen and obey what Jesus taught. Therefore, putting importance on other parts is a clever way to make Jesus' words seem less important by comparison. This doctrine has caused a widespread heresy of people focusing on other people in the Bible for their means of salvation, rather than coming to Jesus for the message of salvation. This is evident when Jesus starts to speak, and the churches turn to another part of the Bible to basically say that Jesus didn't know what he was talking about. This is how the church treats Jesus and His words as recorded in the Gospels.

For example, the Bible teaches that JESUS is the word of God. But the churches teach that the 66 books of the BIBLE is the word of God. Are those books inspired? Definitely, however, should any of those books negate the words of our Lord Jesus? Absolutely not.

I really encourage you to check out the video, because what I shared is just the tip of the iceberg. They posted a second video that I have yet to see, so I am keen to see what else they put out.

In peace
I can tell I am in disagreement then with what the video is saying and what you are in agreement with. Jesus Christ is the living Word of God. The Bible is the written Word of God. All 66 books. No part of the Bible negates any other part as the Word of God. But attention must be paid as to who is speaking, what they are saying, and who is being addressed.

The vast majority of what Jesus said in the Gospels is directed at Israel. This is because He came first to the Jews as their Messiah. (Rom. 15:8) "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" Therefore when applying directly what Jesus said, you should know who He is speaking to. Later Jesus Christ would give the revelation having to do with His Church directly to the apostle Paul. (Gal. 1:11-12)"...For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." So Paul's gospel is the very words or revelation from Jesus Christ also. But it is spoken to the Church. For this reason, emphasis should be placed on Paul's Gospel as it directly relates to the Church.

This does not negate anything Jesus said in the Gospels. What Jesus said is all important for the Church to know, both in the Gospels, and in Paul's gospel.

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emphasis should be placed on Paul's Gospel as it directly relates to the Church.
I can't agree with this. There is only ONE gospel - Jesus' gospel. To say that Jesus' words are only for the Jews makes it to where we can justify disobeying Jesus' commands by saying "that was only for the Jews". Not only that, people DO use Paul's words to negate Jesus' words. They did it in His time and are doing it today ( 2 Peter 3:16).

No where in the Bible does it claim to be the Word of God or the Written Word of God. Show me a place where the bible is mentioned being the 'Word of God'. The Bible DOES claim to say that Jesus is the Word of God, however (John 1:1 & Rev 19:13). The idea that the 66 books of the Bible is the Word of God, or written Word of God as you say, isn't scriptural; rather is fabricated by man.

Do I believe it is inspired by God? Yes I do! Are all the books of the Bible equal to the Words of Jesus? Nope. Not by a long shot.
 
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I can't agree with this. There is only ONE gospel - Jesus' gospel. To say that Jesus' words are only for the Jews makes it to where we can justify disobeying Jesus' commands by saying "that was only for the Jews". Not only that, people DO use Paul's words to negate Jesus' words. They did it in His time and are doing it today ( 2 Peter 3:16).

No where in the Bible does it claim to be the Word of God or the Written Word of God. Show me a place where the bible is mentioned being the 'Word of God'. The Bible DOES claim to say that Jesus is the Word of God, however (John 1:1 & Rev 19:13). The idea that the 66 books of the Bible is the Word of God, or written Word of God as you say, isn't scriptural; rather is fabricated by man.

Do I believe it is inspired by God? Yes I do! Are all the books of the Bible equal to the Words of Jesus? Nope. Not by a long shot.
You need to pay attention to what I said. I said the majority of Jesus words were to Israel. No, there is more than one gospel. Take for instance the gospel of the Kingdom. That is different than Paul's gospel.

(1 Thess. 2:13) "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."

If you don't believe the Bible is the written Word of God, there is something wrong with your view of 'inspiration'.

Quantrill
 
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You need to pay attention to what I said. I said the majority of Jesus words were to Israel. No, there is more than one gospel. Take for instance the gospel of the Kingdom. That is different than Paul's gospel.

(1 Thess. 2:13) "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."

If you don't believe the Bible is the written Word of God, there is something wrong with your view of 'inspiration'.

Quantrill
Galatians 1:7-9, "
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

The Bible says Jesus is the 'Word Of God' (John 1:1 & 19:13), therefore, anytime we see the term 'word of God', then we must apply it to Jesus if we want to use the biblical definition of the term 'word of God'.

If you can show me any scriptures that point to the 'book' being the word of God then I will gladly change my view.
You alluded to when Paul says all scriptures is 'inspired' by God. This isn't proof that the Bible is the book Paul is referring to since it wasn't compiled until many years after.

I do believe that the Bible is inspired, however, it is not the 'Word of God'; Jesus is.

In peace

In peace
 
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Galatians 1:7-9, "
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

The Bible says Jesus is the 'Word Of God' (John 1:1 & 19:13), therefore, anytime we see the term 'word of God', then we must apply it to Jesus if we want to use the biblical definition of the term 'word of God'.

If you can show me any scriptures that point to the 'book' being the word of God then I will gladly change my view.
You alluded to when Paul says all scriptures is 'inspired' by God. This isn't proof that the Bible is the book Paul is referring to since it wasn't compiled until many years after.

I do believe that the Bible is inspired, however, it is not the 'Word of God'; Jesus is.

In peace

In peace
I recognize the Gospel we have today. That doesn't mean there have not been more than one Gospel.

I just gave you Scripture. (1 Thess. 2:13) Paul clearly says his letters are the Word of God. Peter identifies Paul's writings as Scripture. (2 Peter 3:15-16)

If you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God, then you don't have a correct view of 'inspiration' as it relates to Scripture.

Quantrill
 

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