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He who is slow to anger is better than the mighty, he who rules his [own] spirit than he who takes a city.
Proverbs 16:32 AMPC




Here is a definition of emotions.... Emotions are feelings on the inside caused by pain or pleasure but the objective is to move you in a direction.

So many passages in the Bible speak to emotions. Controlling them is a huge benefit to our lives. Even Jesus was tempted in His emotions, yet He passed that temptation with flying colors. For had He given in to what He was feeling.... He would not have gone to the cross.

Hebrews 4;15 says ...
For we do not have a High Priest Who is unable to understand and sympathize and have a shared feeling with our weaknesses and infirmities and liability to the assaults of temptation, but One Who has been tempted in every respect as we are, yet without sinning.
Hebrews 4:15 AMPC

As Jesus is (or should be) our example in everything (according to the Word we (every believer) all have the ability to be just like Jesus in every way, and have the ability to do all the things He did (John 14:12) ... Only in a greater capacity because He didn't physically stay here on the earth very long (more than 3 years in ministry) to perform those acts of power that the Father gave Him to do, He passed that responsibility on to us as He went on to heaven. We do have the same spirit that came upon Him when He was baptized.

So when Jesus was tempted (pressure applied to our emotions to get us to respond in a way to move us away from where Father is taking us), He made the choice the resist the temptation to follow the emotions that were sent by the enemy to move Him away from His God given destiny. He resisted so much that He sweat blood.

And He took with Him Peter and James and John, and began to be struck with terror and amazement and deeply troubled and depressed.
And He said to them, My soul is exceedingly sad(overwhelmed with grief) so that it almost kills Me! Remain here and keep awake and be watching.
And going a little farther, He fell on the ground and kept praying that if it were possible the [fatal] hour might pass from Him.
Mark 14:33‭-‬35 AMPC

And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mark 14:34 KJV

He told them, “My soul is crushed with grief to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.”
Mark 14:34 NLT

We know that everyone has emotions. They can be used or displayed either positively or negatively.

So how did Jesus get to the place where He had the strength to deny His emotions a right to dominate and control His destiny? We see in verse 35 (mark 14:35) that He went a little further... And He kept praying.

My friend that is also the solution for us... When it seems as if we have no strength... We can go a little further and we can choose to keep praying. And if we have no words (or no faith Words that line up with Thee Word) we can pray in the spirit... For we know that the Holy Spirit is within us to lead us and guide us and if we give Him the permission to speak through us... Can produce some powerful Words that gives the Father something to work with (Romans 8:26-27) and will also/at the same time refresh our spirit, soul (mind, will and emotions), and body (Jude 20).

For we walk by faith [we regulate our lives and conduct ourselves by our conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, with trust and holy fervor; thus we walk] not by sight or appearance.
2 Corinthians 5:7 AMPC

One of the ways that the enemy can trick us into following our emotions is by making things appear to be opposite of what God promises in His Word. Opposite of what we are standing in faith for, hoping for. And if we don't have faith like Abraham's (fully assured/unmoveable that what God said, He would perform it) the things that the enemy throws at us can get us to a place where we give up and quit, or to speak words opposite of what we're believing/standing in faith for. And then we wonder why what we're believing for is taking so long.

You see the enemy has been stripped of all power and authority over us.... So he like a robber and trickster has to come in and get us to give his plans and devices authority to work in our lives.

Friends this is just the tip of the iceberg on the subject of emotions. And one big topic that is intertwined with emotions is thoughts. For if we can do what 2 Corinthians 10:5 says.. and take every thought and image captive or submissive/obedient to the Word.. meaning does it line up with the Word?, if not we have to make the choice to cast it down.. or to speak what the Word says instead of what our thought says. For the enemy is not shy about whispering ungodly thoughts in our ears, to get us to react in a way that robs us of what God is trying to do in our lives.

Blessings to you all in Jesus Mighty Name!

The Lord bless you and watch, guard, and keep you;
The Lord make His face to shine upon and enlighten you and be gracious (kind, merciful, and giving favor) to you;
The Lord lift up His [approving] countenance upon you and give you peace (tranquility of heart and life continually). Numbers 6:24‭-‬26 AMPC
 
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He who is slow to anger is better than the mighty, he who rules his [own] spirit than he who takes a city.
Proverbs 16:32 AMPC




Here is a definition of emotions.... Emotions are feelings on the inside caused by pain or pleasure but the objective is to move you in a direction.

So many passages in the Bible speak to emotions. Controlling them is a huge benefit to our lives. Even Jesus was tempted in His emotions, yet He passed that temptation with flying colors. For had He given in to what He was feeling.... He would not have gone to the cross.

Hebrews 4;15 says ...
For we do not have a High Priest Who is unable to understand and sympathize and have a shared feeling with our weaknesses and infirmities and liability to the assaults of temptation, but One Who has been tempted in every respect as we are, yet without sinning.
Hebrews 4:15 AMPC

As Jesus is (or should be) our example in everything (according to the Word we (every believer) all have the ability to be just like Jesus in every way, and have the ability to do all the things He did (John 14:12) ... Only in a greater capacity because He didn't physically stay here on the earth very long (more than 3 years in ministry) to perform those acts of power that the Father gave Him to do, He passed that responsibility on to us as He went on to heaven. We do have the same spirit that came upon Him when He was baptized.

So when Jesus was tempted (pressure applied to our emotions to get us to respond in a way to move us away from where Father is taking us), He made the choice the resist the temptation to follow the emotions that were sent by the enemy to move Him away from His God given destiny. He resisted so much that He sweat blood.

And He took with Him Peter and James and John, and began to be struck with terror and amazement and deeply troubled and depressed.
And He said to them, My soul is exceedingly sad(overwhelmed with grief) so that it almost kills Me! Remain here and keep awake and be watching.
And going a little farther, He fell on the ground and kept praying that if it were possible the [fatal] hour might pass from Him.
Mark 14:33‭-‬35 AMPC

And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Mark 14:34 KJV

He told them, “My soul is crushed with grief to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.”
Mark 14:34 NLT

We know that everyone has emotions. They can be used or displayed either positively or negatively.

So how did Jesus get to the place where He had the strength to deny His emotions a right to dominate and control His destiny? We see in verse 35 (mark 14:35) that He went a little further... And He kept praying.

My friend that is also the solution for us... When it seems as if we have no strength... We can go a little further and we can choose to keep praying. And if we have no words (or no faith Words that line up with Thee Word) we can pray in the spirit... For we know that the Holy Spirit is within us to lead us and guide us and if we give Him the permission to speak through us... Can produce some powerful Words that gives the Father something to work with (Romans 8:26-27) and will also/at the same time refresh our spirit, soul (mind, will and emotions), and body (Jude 20).

For we walk by faith [we regulate our lives and conduct ourselves by our conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, with trust and holy fervor; thus we walk] not by sight or appearance.
2 Corinthians 5:7 AMPC

One of the ways that the enemy can trick us into following our emotions is by making things appear to be opposite of what God promises in His Word. Opposite of what we are standing in faith for, hoping for. And if we don't have faith like Abraham's (fully assured/unmoveable that what God said, He would perform it) the things that the enemy throws at us can get us to a place where we give up and quit, or to speak words opposite of what we're believing/standing in faith for. And then we wonder why what we're believing for is taking so long.

You see the enemy has been stripped of all power and authority over us.... So he like a robber and trickster has to come in and get us to give his plans and devices authority to work in our lives.

Friends this is just the tip of the iceberg on the subject of emotions. And one big topic that is intertwined with emotions is thoughts. For if we can do what 2 Corinthians 10:5 says.. and take every thought and image captive or submissive/obedient to the Word.. meaning does it line up with the Word?, if not we have to make the choice to cast it down.. or to speak what the Word says instead of what our thought says. For the enemy is not shy about whispering ungodly thoughts in our ears, to get us to react in a way that robs us of what God is trying to do in our lives.

Blessings to you all in Jesus Mighty Name!

The Lord bless you and watch, guard, and keep you;
The Lord make His face to shine upon and enlighten you and be gracious (kind, merciful, and giving favor) to you;
The Lord lift up His [approving] countenance upon you and give you peace (tranquility of heart and life continually). Numbers 6:24‭-‬26 AMPC
This is very good...Some of us, like myself, were taught to suppress all emotion from childhood. How destructive! Suppressing emotion is best defined as 'building walls' and does nobody any good. At seventy I still wrestle with controlling something I should have learned as a child. What are emotions for if they control me? Why does God give us emotion if they cause such turmoil? Properly used and trained, all of the above is true....So....Thank you for your teaching here.
 
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The defintion of emotions is:
EMO'TION, noun [Latin emotio; emoveo, to move from.]

1. Literally, a moving of the mind or soul; hence, any agitation of mind or excitement of sensibility.

2. In a philosophical sense, an internal motion or agitation of the mind which passes away without desire; when desire follows, the motion or agitation is called a passion

This is not what GOD gave to man. GOD said, My peace I give..., do no let your heart be troubled, nether be afraid. Emotion is agitative and does not give peace.

Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Jesus had these same emotions, being created in the likeness of men (Romans 8:3), but after He was tried, he took this body to the cross and crucified it. Because He overcame, He has given all believer the power and ability to also overcome.
 
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The term "troubled" mean:
G5015
tar-as'-so
Of uncertain affinity; to stir or agitate (roil water): - trouble.

When we became Christians, emotions were crucified on the cross at the time of Christ, and we as believers benefit from that.

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
The term "emotions" also means:
G3804
path'-ay-mah
From a presumed derivative of G3806; something undergone, that is, hardship or pain; subjectively an emotion or influence: - affection, affliction, motion, suffering.

Though we feel emotions, they are satan's influences which he brings upon us in our times of temptation. Satan uses the good emotions many times to set us up for the evil. For instance: We've been told we've won a millon dollars. We become excited, just to find out they made a mistake, then we become (depends on the person) angry, sad, etc. It all depends on what we are going through at the time.

Paul explains the law of emotions that he experienced:

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

The captivity to the law of sin, is not sin as justification through the law of Moses where the law judged and told a person they've sinned, but this law is the law of emotions which dictates how a person feels. Believers have been delivered from the sin nature spiritually and we are dead to sin; the nature.


Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Believers will serve the law of GOD, walking by faith according to GOD's word, but the flesh we will feel and expreience and serve satan through his influence until we learn to walk upright. This is why we have GOD's Grace. We will fall, but we can get back up and GOD is not imputing sin unto us.
 
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"Believers" -- "we" serve a risen Savior. God created everyone -- complete With emotions. At funerals / Memorial serves -- we 'weep' for those who experience the physical death of a loved one because we miss their presence.

I speak from very recent experience -- my husband of 46 yrs. passed away this past Friday morning. Sudden / totally unexpected. A collapse while out in town, EMT taking him to three different hospitals -- emergency brain surgery to correct a severe brain bleed, decision made to remove ventilator and physical death within minutes. Absent from This body and immediately with Jesus Christ for eternity.

We experience tears of Joy, pain, etc. In Genesis 1 - 2 -- part of God's creativeness was that of creating mankind. That which 'we' brought on ourselves in the garden of Eden was the knowledge of both good and Evil. The evil that mankind is capable of doing towards each other is terrifying. As is the Good we are capable of showing each other -- Wonderful.

It's the person's reaction To the evil we observe and the goodness we observe that shows our emotions.

The emotion of Anger Can be destructive / people will express themselves with filthy language / different forms of abusive.

We Also experience Joy at the birth of a baby, a beautiful wedding , etc.

Unfortunately -- boys, men are told to 'be Strong by Not crying' and That is Not healthy. 'Burying' your emotions Can cause / result in all kinds of inner problems.
 
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"Believers" -- "we" serve a risen Savior. God created everyone -- complete With emotions. At funerals / Memorial serves -- we 'weep' for those who experience the physical death of a loved one because we miss their presence.

I speak from very recent experience -- my husband of 46 yrs. passed away this past Friday morning. Sudden / totally unexpected. A collapse while out in town, EMT taking him to three different hospitals -- emergency brain surgery to correct a severe brain bleed, decision made to remove ventilator and physical death within minutes. Absent from This body and immediately with Jesus Christ for eternity.

We experience tears of Joy, pain, etc. In Genesis 1 - 2 -- part of God's creativeness was that of creating mankind. That which 'we' brought on ourselves in the garden of Eden was the knowledge of both good and Evil. The evil that mankind is capable of doing towards each other is terrifying. As is the Good we are capable of showing each other -- Wonderful.

It's the person's reaction To the evil we observe and the goodness we observe that shows our emotions.

The emotion of Anger Can be destructive / people will express themselves with filthy language / different forms of abusive.

We Also experience Joy at the birth of a baby, a beautiful wedding , etc.

Unfortunately -- boys, men are told to 'be Strong by Not crying' and That is Not healthy. 'Burying' your emotions Can cause / result in all kinds of inner problems.
Shocked and so sorry to read this. Of course God is emotional too, and weeps when we weep.

With my prayers
 
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Hello Sue D, I thank you for your reply,

I'm sorry for your loss in this world. I too have experienced the loss of a love one and it's not something that I desire to go through again, but it's not in my hands. What is in my hands is the peace that I know GOD gave to me through the death of Jesus Christ. Jesus died specifically for our righteousness of peace in these times.

However Sue D, I do not see anywhere in scripture, after Jesus Christ died on the cross, where He teaches a believer that He gave them emotions, and it is His will for them to hurt, grieve., be angry or even lust for life in any respects. I do however see where He teaches me, that He has not given me the spirit of fear. I do see where He told me to put anger away from me and the wrath of man does not work the righteousness of GOD. I do see where the Spirit speaking through Paul tells us that we can quench all the fiery darts of the wicked, which the term "fiery" means: anger, lust and grief.

Ephesians 6:16

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith you shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Definition of "fiery"

from G4442 ; to kindle, i.e. (passively) to be ignited, glow (literally), be refined (by implication), or (figuratively) to be inflamed (with anger, grief, lust):--burn, fiery, be on fire, try.

As I said GOD told me to put away anger as more than a conquer and not just a believer.

Ephesians 4:31

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

Colossians 3:8

But now you also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

The reason GOD tells me these things is because He's sent His Son to die to all these things in the flesh, that I might have peace in the flesh as "I" bring this body into subjection through His Spirit. This is what Paul does.

1 Corinthians 9:27

But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection:lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Definition for "castaway"

G96 ἀδόκιμος [A)DO/KIMOS] {adókimos} \ad-ok'-ee-mos\

from 1 (as a negative particle) and 1384; unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate.

GOD knows a that a babe in knowledge has no thorough understanding about anything in life, and cannot immediately do what He's teaching; but through His Grace all things are possible in time.

When GOD tells me to be angry and sin not, He knows that I can only do it through His Grace as I practice. I may grieve, get angry and become fearful many many times more in my life, but as time goes on, and if I'm willing to put on His peace, the emotions of every sort will be snuffed out through me putting off the old man, and being renewed in the spirit of my mind; as I learn to rest from the character satan filled Adam with when he sinned.

Ephesians 4:22

Put off concerning the former conversation/behavior of the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

Ephesians 4:23

And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

Ephesians 4:24

And that you put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Scripture teaches us that Christ has crucified the "emotions" of the old man on the cross, and has given believers the Fruit of His Spirit.

Galatians 5:24

And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

The term "affections" mean:

G3804 πάθημα [PA/QHMA] {páthēma} \path'-ay-mah\

from a presumed derivative of 3806; something undergone, i.e. hardship or pain; subjectively, an emotion or influence:-- affection, affliction, motion, suffering.

Galatians 5:22

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Galatians 5:23

Meekness, temperance:against such there is no law.

This is why Jesus told us to come unto Him.

Matthew 11:28

Come unto me, all you that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Matthew 11:29

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

It is in our souls where we need rest. This is why we become angry, fearful, sad and lustful, etc. This is not GOD's will for us! It is spiritual anxiety; we become heavy laden.

The definition for "heavy laden":

G5412 φορτίζω [FORTI/ZW] {phortízō} \for-tid'-zo\

from 5414; to load up (properly, as a vessel or animal), i.e. (figuratively) to overburden with ceremony (or spiritual anxiety):--lade, by heavy laden.

I know the Joy of the Lord is our strength, but while in these bodies, we have a warfare daily going on; but Christ has promised us that He has already given us the victory.

And as we will sometimes weep in the night, we know that joy will come in the morning.

One thing I know, it was not GOD's will for man to know good and evil. This was the result of Adam's disobedience. Because of this, the whole creation groans and are tormented; some more than others. Some people have been born with more of the good than the evil, and some are more evil than good. We have the geniuses of good and the geniuses of evil. Not one of them asked to be born in this world. This is not GOD's will, and I know man does not desire to grow up in a world where he must walk around with who knows what physical or mental infirmity; but this is the world we live in. This was never GOD's will.

Once again Sue, I'm sorry for your loss, but you are a greater woman and child of GOD going through this than you've ever been. The tribulations of life proves your faith and you've taken what has been thrown at you, in the strength and power of Jesus Christ. Continue to be more than a conqueror. God Bless You!





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We Do live in a fallen world and as a result, experience various amounts of problems. But we Do have heaven to look forward to.
 
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Hello Sue D.

I do agree with you, we live in a fallen world, and we will experience problems while in this body. For me, I can only be comforted by the promises that I see in scripture. If GOD has told me, He has given me His peace, and also told me, do not let my heart be troubled (John 14:27), I believe He's teling me that it's in my ability through His Grace to do what He has said.

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.

Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

I truly believe that all things according to His will are possible, if we believe and are willing to go through the trials. Peace is on the other side of any trial and tribulation.

This last thing. There are only four foundations of evil emotions and they are fear, lust, greif and anger. Every other evil emotion stem from these. If you catergorize the emotions that you experience under these four foundations, (frustration stems from anger; timidness stems from fear; covetness stems from lust and so on, it make it a lot easier to manage mentally. This is because you will go directly to the root and foundation of the problematic emotion and bring it into subjection through the new spirit within you (James 4:7).You will sustain your peace.

GOD Bless you
The Greates fruit is Love
 
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Context of verses is Very important -- Re: Luke 10:19 passage.

As believers we are told that we Will experience trials / temptations. So it's not a matter of being Willing to go through the trials, it's the fact that when they Do come, how will we respond To them. No one lives in a vacuume -- people Will be observing how we react To life.

I'm curious as to where you find your four foundations of evil emotions. God created us With our emotions. And why would grief be considered to be an evil emotion. It's More of how we handle our emotions. Grief / sadness is an emotion that every person experiences as the result of loosing a friend, relative, family pet. And there is a grieving process that every person goes through. And a person might not be aware Of going through any process. There is grief counseling made available in schools when there is death taking place. Lots of other kinds of situations. People Need to be able to cry and talk about what they feel. An important part of the emotional healing process.

The part you put in (......) I agree with. But , as I've already commented -- emotions in and of themselves -- are Not evil. Remember that Jesus wept when his dear friend, Lazarus died. Even though He knew He would see him again -- He still wept at his death. I've wept a great deal when my husband recently passed. I knew that he was immediately with his Savior/ Jesus Christ. His glorified body is completely healed.
 
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Hello Sue D,

I would like to first address what you said about my context use of Luke 10:19. Quote: Context is very important.

The spiritual point I made using this scripture was, we as believers have power over the devil period. Luke 10:19 tells us that we as believers have power over “all” the power of the enemy. The enemy is the devil and Luke 10:18 really point this out. The devil is agaist those that are in Christ; and this is every believer regardless of time in this life.

There is only one enemy of Jehovah GOD (I’m not a Jehovah Witness) and that is Satan’s kingdom. In context Jesus saw Satan fall from heaven as lightning. Satan came to make war with the saints; the Church. Jesus was talking to the beginning of the Church. This is why it pertains to us. Satan has not been cast into the lake of fire yet, so he's still active; but only as a roaring lion.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman (the Church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Luk 10:18 And he (Jesus) said unto them (His disciples), I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Question for you Sue, do you fight mentally against something seeking to take your peace from you? If you say yes, then you know that it is not God that's doing this to you. And if you were doing to yourself, you would be divided in yourself; because just listning to your post, you desire peace. And not just any peace, but a peace that surpasses all your natural understanding.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Jam 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Luk 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Yes, the spirits of the devil's kingdom are subject unto all believers if we have knowledge of how to fight this fight of faith. It is our spiritual and mental responsibility to learn.

If I or any other believer do not have peace of mind, it is not God that has caused this, nor is it God that is making a person feel this way. Jehovah does not contradict Himself and He is not going to tell us to do anything that He has not given us the ability to accomplish. Jehovah God has given us peace, and has told us not to let our hearts be troubled. This is based on our efforts not to let our hearts be trouble; and if we do become agitated, our responsiblity is to get back if I fall, pay attention to what's taking our peace from us and after identifying it, continue to stand agaist it in future trials; we have grace to learn. This is a command to us from God.

Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world gives, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

G5015 (troubled)

tar-as'-so

Of uncertain affinity; to stir or agitate (roil water): - trouble.

The definition of “Emotion” is (Ref: 1828 Webster):

EMO'TION, noun [Latin emotio; emoveo, to move from.]

1. Literally, a moving of the mind or soul; hence, any agitation of mind or excitement of sensibility.

2. In a philosophical sense, an internal motion or agitation of the mind which passes away without desire; when desire follows, the motion or agitation is called a passion.

2Co 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds :wink:

2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

The purpose of trials and tribulations according to scripture is:

Rom 5:3 … we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation works patience;

Rom 5:4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into divers temptations;

Jam 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith works patience.

Jam 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

1Pe 1:6 Wherein you greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, you are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

Sue, you said that it’s a fact that we’ll go through trials and tribulations, but it how we respond to them.

I agree with that. Trial and tribulations come to us, and if we do not know what our responsibility is when we go through them, then it is impossible for us to win. If we do not win, we will not put on the character of Christ. It is our responsibility to put on Christ’s peace and not God’s to put it on for us.

Eph 4:22 That you put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

Eph 4:24 And that you put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

You said you were curious to where I found my information on the four foundations of emotions. I will send you that information in another reply because this is getting a little extensive. But the majority of it comes from the bible.
 
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"Believers" -- "we" serve a risen Savior. God created everyone -- complete With emotions. At funerals / Memorial serves -- we 'weep' for those who experience the physical death of a loved one because we miss their presence.

I speak from very recent experience -- my husband of 46 yrs. passed away this past Friday morning. Sudden / totally unexpected. A collapse while out in town, EMT taking him to three different hospitals -- emergency brain surgery to correct a severe brain bleed, decision made to remove ventilator and physical death within minutes. Absent from This body and immediately with Jesus Christ for eternity.

We experience tears of Joy, pain, etc. In Genesis 1 - 2 -- part of God's creativeness was that of creating mankind. That which 'we' brought on ourselves in the garden of Eden was the knowledge of both good and Evil. The evil that mankind is capable of doing towards each other is terrifying. As is the Good we are capable of showing each other -- Wonderful.

It's the person's reaction To the evil we observe and the goodness we observe that shows our emotions.

The emotion of Anger Can be destructive / people will express themselves with filthy language / different forms of abusive.

We Also experience Joy at the birth of a baby, a beautiful wedding , etc.

Unfortunately -- boys, men are told to 'be Strong by Not crying' and That is Not healthy. 'Burying' your emotions Can cause / result in all kinds of inner problems.
Sue, I am so sorry to hear about your husband. My heart hurts with you, sister. I will be praying for you. Feel all of your emotions, thank God that they are not sin and that He understands and is an emotional God. He weeps with you in your pain. And rejoices that you can rejoice at the same time that your husband is "home free". Love to you, sister
 
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I think what peole are missing the understanding. I am not saying that a person is wrong because they are emotional, that is their choice, and emotions will not send a person to hell. I am speaking about a greater life of peace. i am not looking down at anyone who is emotional or are thing they are weak, no, it's not about that. Someone is hurting us and it's not Jesus Christ. Jesus came in the likeness of man in his fallen nature; the nature of good and evil; this is where good and evil emotions came from. Adam was not suppose to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus went to the cross and crucified the nature of good and evil on the cross. jesus wept because He felt what the fallen nature ffelt and experienced. Jesus' hurt was not sin.
 
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@ regi.....-- first of all answering your question -- I'm not fighting anything that might keep peace from me. My four adult kids and their two young daughter and myself are all adjusting to the loss of their Grandpa who they dearly loved, and the loss of their Father and my loss of my husband. And all very unexpectedly / sudden.

The Luke passage was still very specific to a specific situation.

And, yes, satan is alive and active in this present world. And he will be until the 1,000 years when he is in the abyss and bound there.

Satans appearance in this world was back in Genesis -- Jesus Christ and the Church aren't until New Testament.

Continuing to read your post -- there Are some things we don't agree on. But it's not a big issue.

And, just to let you know -- I'm Not fighting any attempts at peacefulness.

Some people are more emotional than others. Some are less emotional. Some people do Not like showing emotions in public others don't mind. It's part of who we are.
 
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Sue D, My name is Regi and I've come to this site to interact in fellowship talking about the character of Jesus Christ in Love. My position in Christ is to shed light on what He teaches me through His word. If I have offended you, that was not my intention. I saw a post on this site talking about emotions and I was compelled to join the conversation. I have been studying this subject for about 14 years; specific to emotions from the perspective of the bible and I've talk to many people throughout the years to get their opinion on the subject. In all these years, not one person that I've spoken with could show me in scripture, where GOD created good and evil emotions in man, it only shows that good and evil came as a result of Adam's sin.. To this day no one has be able to show me that GOD created emotions in man, as oppose to what i say which is, emotions came as a result of good and evil. The character of the Fruit of GOD's Spirit is the character that all believer have and they are not emotional. If the peace of GOD is keeping a believer's heart, then it is impossible for anything contrary to peace to enter in. The revelation knowledge of GOD's word is for everyone to understand, and it done between the interaction of the body of Christ.

Phi 4:7 And the peace of God, which passes all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

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From a compound of G4253 and G3708; to be a watcher in advance, that is, to mount guard as a sentinel (post spies at gates); figuratively to hem in, protect: - keep (with a garrison). Compare G5083.

If GOD is the keeping and guarding a man's heart nothing and no one can ever get past His protection.

Sue D. because it seems I've affected you in an adverse way presenting this message, it might be better for me not to reply to any other posts on the subject with you. However, if it's your wishes that we continue this conversation let me know.
 
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Sue I just recieve a post from you as I was sending out my last post. I have responses regarding your post but I need to know that it is your wishes for me to reply to this last post you've sent.
 
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I think what peole are missing the understanding. I am not saying that a person is wrong because they are emotional, that is their choice, and emotions will not send a person to hell. I am speaking about a greater life of peace. i am not looking down at anyone who is emotional or are thing they are weak, no, it's not about that. Someone is hurting us and it's not Jesus Christ. Jesus came in the likeness of man in his fallen nature; the nature of good and evil; this is where good and evil emotions came from. Adam was not suppose to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus went to the cross and crucified the nature of good and evil on the cross. jesus wept because He felt what the fallen nature ffelt and experienced. Jesus' hurt was not sin.

And Why would anyone think that emotions would send any to hell. The only thing 'sending' someone to hell is their Not accepting God's way To heaven.

Sometimes men grow up being taught that showing emotions Is a sign of weakness in a man.

The fall of man came as a result of Adam and Eve disobeying God's Word and eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That 'good and evil' pertain to our Actions -- Not our emotions.

Just a moment ago, your newest post came through -- you're sharing your background.

It's getting late for me -- will continue tomorrow.
 
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Hello Sue D,

I guess you don't mind continuing our study on emotion. From your last post you said "we'll continue tomorrow.

I do not believe that emotions themselves can send any person to hell, but if the characteristic of that person through emotions is oppose to the character of the Fruit of the Spirit, that character is of self and is not abiding in Christ. A self character is a selfish character and is of the devil and is not of Jesus Christ.

When Adam sinned, the spirit of GOD left him and he became blinded in spirit. At that point the spirit of the god of this world entered Adam and he understood the nature of good and evil (John 8:44; Eph 2:2). This is what the devil told Eve:

Gen 3:5 For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

What is it that their eyes would be opened to understand?

After Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, what was his first “reaction” when he heard from God?

Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, where are you?

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

This is the first sign of emotions in man. Before they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil Adam and Eve were not ashamed.

Gen 2:25 And they (Adam and Eve) were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Once Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, every evil emotion we can think of entered them, because they became part of the nature of sin, and were no longer a part of the nature of Righteousness.

From Adam unto Jesus’ death and resurrection every man that has ever lived in this world were slaves to Satan/sin, spiritually, and characteristically. On the day of Pentecost is when man was given the spirit of Grace and the ability to be made free from the bondage of how he felt emotionally.

Paul explained the emotional experiences he went through in the book of Romans 7. Paul said he saw another law in his body warring against the law of his mind and bringing him into captivity to the law of Satan.

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Every trial a believer goes through is emotional until that person learns to understand themselves in the rest and peace of Christ. This can only happen if the trial and tribulations come and we learn from them.

A situation does not have to be a problem, but it becomes a problem if a person becomes emotional. An emotional problem is a problem because of the absence of peace. Jesus has told believers to watch and pray.

Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that you enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

This is not a command for believers to watch life as it goes on outwardly, but this is a command for believer to watch over their spirit. We are to watch and see if someone (Satan) is seeking to steal our peace from us (1Peter 5:8).

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour:

Once again we are being vigilant spiritually, because the devil is a spirit and the warfare is spiritual. We do not wrestle with flesh and blood first; we wrestle with spiritual wickedness and then we wrestle with another human being after our feelings of anger, sadness, lust or fear has taken our peace from us.

A man cannot steal our peace by entering our spirit; satan can. A man cannot anger us if we have understanding of what Jesus is teaching concerning Love. We must let patience have her perfect work in us as we go through the trials of life, and know that the peace of God can surpass all our understanding of comfort in the trial.

GOD has created us to be rational being operating from the position of rest; being sound of mind and tranquil in spirit.
 
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@Sue D.
Dear Sister,
Realizing that he is with the Lord, can be comforting, but doesn't take away from the loss.
Those years together meant much and created a bond few get to realize. With that comes
a flooding of emotions. Great full that he is with the Lord, but conflicted for not having his presence with you.
My heart and prayers go out to you and those who share your loss.
In the name of Jesus Christ.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
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