do you belive in God

[guy23]

Its not a question of God but a matter of his reasoning.
I do not doubt God is real . I know God is real ,
My big qwestion is what is Gods reason . What im asking is this ; why would one make man . As I look at man I can say no man does a thing that is not for him . With that said no man lives in complete joy . also with other thoughts that bring me to the qwestions ; Is fact you can not have good with out evil . For with out Evil you would not know good .
Its some what a catch 22 . If Eve would not have taken that apple we would not have known evil but then also we would have not known Good . You would be in a state of complete joy . To not know is to have joy with out judgement. ( we would still be fallowing the one rule of not to eat from that tree .) God knew Eve was going to take that apple to eat . To teach us good from bad to give us true freedom and judgement and you can not have a kingdom of kings full of joy , with rules .
This brings me to the meaning of life . And that meaning is simply This . Its a teaching of God a lesson of meaning and test of will .

Its like saying with out the east the west has no direction .

what do you think Jesus was trying to give and tell you on the cross
really read what he said and do not let any man tell you what it ment take it as you understand it .

1 Water is the foundation and wine will make you blind .
2 why can we spend endless money on a endless war with the money spent to just this date the world would not thurst . why would one goverment try to give the world wine when all it needs is water .

I welcome your comments qwestions and ponit of view please comment .
Bless God and his whey . (The only direction )

 

[aaroncam85]

can you simplify or explain what you are trying say please.

 

[guy23]

can you simplify or explain what you are trying say please.

here is what im saying
Its not a question of God but a matter of his reasoning.

"For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,
and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.
And Jesus said, "For judgment I came into this world, so that those who do not see may see,
and that those who see may become blind."
This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world,
and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

all I am saying is why do ppl ask if god is real , I know he is real then the qwestion is not is god real . The qwestion is what is gods reason . bye reason I mean the reason of life . bye asking what is Gods reason you get the meaning of life .

 

[aaroncam85]

Hi again brother i feel the reason for life is for us to be rconciled to God, brought back into a perfect relationship with God and the reason God made us is to display his power and majesty.
is this any help to you

 

[guy23]

thank you for your thoughts
and your time .
I still welcome other thoughts , thoughts from ones heart there true thought with out influence of scripts .

 

[Chad]

thank you for your thoughts
and your time .
I still welcome other thoughts , thoughts from ones heart there true thought with out influence of scripts .

That makes no sense at all. Your asking us to explain from our own understanding (hearts) instead of what GOD says in Scripture? Not on this site. This site is for Christians who respect and believe in GOD and His Living Word. That's how we believe it and abide by.

GOD created people because He wanted a family. He wanted to love us, bless us and wanted to be loved in return. He gave us freedom to obey or disobey him. Love requires freedom, therefore there comes a risk in giving that freedom. However, that is how it is and how GOD created the world.

The only way you will ever understand GOD and His Word is by opening your heart to Him first and having faith. Without faith there is no understanding who GOD is and what He says in the Word.

 

[guy23]

That makes no sense at all. Your asking us to explain from our own understanding (hearts) instead of what GOD says in Scripture? Not on this site. This site is for Christians who respect and believe in GOD and His Living Word. That's how we believe it and abide by.

GOD created people because He wanted a family. He wanted to love us, bless us and wanted to be loved in return. He gave us freedom to obey or disobey him. Love requires freedom, therefore there comes a risk in giving that freedom. However, that is how it is and how GOD created the world.

The only way you will ever understand GOD and His Word is by opening your heart to Him first and having faith. Without faith there is no understanding who GOD is and what He says in the Word.

and here is Gods word this does apply to more then how something looks . note the word things FYI I have very much faith in God .
I did not learn Gods works from other mans teachings there outer appearance but from the heart .
It is not what God can do for me Its what can I do for God .

"But the Lord said to Samuel, 'Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.'"

sorry if you miss understand me i did not mean anything bad .

 

[rjones]

Brother, You're all up in your head and so far from your heart that you're totally confused and blinded. You might believe in God but do you really know Him? Even the demons believe! Have you met Jesus yet? (1 Cor.1:23-24) but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God AND THE WISDOM OF GOD. (Col.1:19-22) For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation

 

[Margaux]

Questions and Answers.

The topic , Questions and answers may only be found in one book and that book is called the Holy Bible.
Without that book our knowledge is not what this precious book teaches us but knowledge that comes from ourselves. Let us start with Faith:
Hebrews: 11:3
By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Hebrews 11: 6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that He exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
My only answer to your question is , seek God with all your heart and you will find Him. Your own knowledge is like this:
In the Garden of Eden :
1) The lust of the flesh: description - eating of the apple.
2) The lust of the Eyes: The tree was a pleasure to look at
3) The lust of Pride: The tree presented knowledge and power.
Think what you are asking , repent , and accept Jesus as your Lord .
I hope 2008 brings you much love, peace and happiness.

 

[guy23]

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
-- Hebrews 11:1

sorry you do not have to see things the whey I do , but as I know I sin everyday . God knows I sin . I was given sin so then I will know good .
with out evil one will not know good and with out good one would not know evil . To have a kingdom of kings full of joy you can not have rules .

I do still like your point of veiw it helps me in my study . I thought and still do think the point of God is so
there could be a kingdom of kings full of joy . Or did I miss something ? see I hope for a kingdom of kings full of joy . as I see it there is not one person that lives in complete joy is there ?

 

[faithworks]

Yes I have complete joy guy23 no matter what is going on in my life that is because Jesus lives inside of me... I have joy 24/7 only because of Him... We are out here to glorify ou King and Lord it is all about Him not us..... To live for Christ is to die for Him.

blessings,
debbi

 

[Margaux]

Live by faith and not by sight.

May you have a blessed and prosperous new year , i pray for love, peace , joy and happiness to embrace all our lives. :star: and hoping and praying for self control in everything we do.

I do not disagree with your point of view , i just felt the need to debate with you about the word faith in God , I know that we are sinners and when Jesus died on the cross of calvary , he died for you and me.
You see faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen and this is all because of Christ Jesus. Restoration happened. Hallelujah

When Jesus died on the cross: this happened : Isaiah 53 : 5-6But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

So if we live in Christ Jesus we will be able to combat sin , for living in Jesus is living in repentance not making the same mistakes year in and year out , however learning about our mistakes in order to help others.

Joy , peace and happiness will follow , by the way i am writting to you and also reminding myself of all of these above.

I hope i did not come accross as if i never sin , because that was not my intention.

Your sister in Christ Jesus.:lightbulb

 

[guy23]

Thank you for your debate , I like debate as long as no one fights .
the only place I see joy in the holey bible is found in Zephaniah 3:17.

as for faithworks I think you are talking about the fullness God has given you . not pure joy . I do not know pure joy , I can not have pure joy unless you have pure joy . If the world had pure joy then I would have pure joy .

As I have said no man knows pure joy . sure there are days you are happy and could sing for that day . but 24/7 365 days a year That would be a kingdom of kings full of joy ?

 

[faithworks]

No I did not take it that way Margaux. thanks for the reply. I will not say I can never sin again, but I do not have to. He has given us the power to overcome sin everyday. We read in Matthew 1:21 "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name of Jesus, because he will save them from their sins." You see to me from is a key word.

guy23, yes I still have joy 24/7. No I do not live in a dream world I live in the USA which is a fallen and sinful world. But Jesus said, "you are in the world, but not of the world." this is not my home. Yes I can know pure joy it comes from Christ dwelling in me. I have had cancer about 4 times and was going to die 3 times, but by the grace and love of Jesus he healed me. I had joy even in times of trouble. You can have joy no matter what is going on around you or with you if you have the love of Jesus in you. "He gives peace not as the world giveth, the world does not know peace, but He does, His peace passes all understanding."
Blessings, guy23, I pray you find that joy that is unspeakable in Jesus...

debbi

 

[guy23]

No I did not take it that way Margaux. thanks for the reply. I will not say I can never sin again, but I do not have to. He has given us the power to overcome sin everyday. We read in Matthew 1:21 "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name of Jesus, because he will save them from their sins." You see to me from is a key word.

guy23, yes I still have joy 24/7. No I do not live in a dream world I live in the USA which is a fallen and sinful world. But Jesus said, "you are in the world, but not of the world." this is not my home. Yes I can know pure joy it comes from Christ dwelling in me. I have had cancer about 4 times and was going to die 3 times, but by the grace and love of Jesus he healed me. I had joy even in times of trouble. You can have joy no matter what is going on around you or with you if you have the love of Jesus in you. "He gives peace not as the world giveth, the world does not know peace, but He does, His peace passes all understanding."
Blessings, guy23, I pray you find that joy that is unspeakable in Jesus...

debbi

Thank you Debbi , I hope i do find the joy you are talking about that would be a gift of real greatness . I guess I just look at the world to much and see all the bad out there . I hope one day we all can look at the world and see good . And yes me knowing you have joy brings me joy. Bless you .

 

[faithworks]

Bless you guy also. I do not see good all the time, we live in a sinful times and they are getting worse as I write this. But, I keep my eyes on Jesus and His ways and plan for my life. Keep looking up our redemption draws nigh.

Blessings,
debbi

Also have a blessed New Year. As a friend of my says "we are one day closer to Jesus coming.