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Diminishing the Work of Christ On the Cross
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many,; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ......For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27.For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3: 16, 26-29
Genesis 13: 16 says "And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbed." Paul seems to contradict Genesis 13: 16 in saying that there is only one seed from Abraham, which is Jesus Christ. But as is often the case, there is something subtle being taught here, something the person who remains in the spiritual condition of the natural man of I Corinthians 2: 14, who understands only that which is literal, cannot easily see.
Just as there is no more temple in which God resides, no more animal sacrifice, no more feast days which people of God must observe and no more circumcision to be done,there is no more Old Covenant Israel of the flesh by descent from Abraham. The shadow of a physical seed - from God's man, Abraham - was fulfilled in the spiritual substance which is Christ Jesus. That which is entirely physical as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 16-17) pointing to the spiritual substance which was to come - Christ - was done away with when the New Covenant replaced the Old Covenant (Hebrews 10: 9) - at the Cross.
To insist that the shadows of the Old Covenant were not fulfilled in Christ is to diminish the work of Christ on the Cross and can be part of the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24: 15.
"And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate." Daniel 11: 31
"And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." Daniel 12: 11
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Daniel 9: 27
"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn." Zechariah 12: 10
Who are "they" in Zechariah 12: 10? The literal view would be that "they" are Jews alive at the second coming of Christ. But the Jews living at the very end did not pierce Jesus. As a metaphor, Zechariah 12: 10 can be seen to point to the abomination of desolation of Daniel 9: 27. "They" have pierced Christ in the sense that they have diminished his work on the Cross by, in part, teaching that all the shadows of the Old Covenant were not fulfilled in him and done away with as works of the flesh. In bringing about the abomination of desolation in the modern time, some kind of literal desecration of the temple is not involved. Instead, as Daniel 9: 27 says, the abomination of desolation brings desolation which is poured upon the desolate.
The seed to whom the Old Testament promises were made was not to the multitude of Old Covenant Israel of the flesh. It was to Christ. Although in the physical, Christ was a descendant of Abraham, what Paul is saying is that Christ is the one spiritual seed from Abraham, the man of faith who believed God. Being the spiritual seed from Abrahm in Galatians 3: 29 means that when you belong to Christ, you too are the spiritual seed of Abraham, which is also the spiritual seed of God. "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9: 8
And in the remnant of Romans 11: 1-5 Christ fulfilled the promise that he would redeem the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15: 24). In Romans 11: 1-5 Paul starts by saying that God did not cast away his people. Then he begins talking about the remnant of Israel by quoting I Kings 19: 10 14 18. In I Kings 19: 9-10 Elijah says to God that "...they have thrown down thy alters and slain the prophets...and I even I,only am left..."
But God answers in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed down unto Baal..." This is the remnant of Israel, and Paul's point is that at times when Israel was in apostasy, God preserved a remnant with which to begin all over again with his people Israel. Then, in Romans 11: 5 Paul says "Even so at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace." Paul is stating the principle of the remnant, and clearly implying that Christ fulfilled his mission to redeem the lost sheep of the house of Israel in this remnant of Old Covenant Israel he chose to begin his people Israel all over again as those reborn in Christ. There is a big difference spiritually between that remnant of Israel which accepted Christ and that multitude of Old Covenant Israel which rejected Christ and continued in that rejection as Talmudic Judaism. It is that multitude, and not the remnant, which dispensationalism raises up as Israel.
Exodus 4: 22-23, Hosea 11: 1 and Matthew 2: 15 all point to Christ alone as being the one seed to whom the Abrahamic promises were made which is confirmed in Galatians 3:16. Again, what is said in Exodus 4: 22-23 Hosea 11: 1, and Matthew 2: 15 is subtle, at one point Christ is Israel. "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many,; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ......For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27.For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3: 16, 26-29
Genesis 13: 16 says "And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbed." Paul seems to contradict Genesis 13: 16 in saying that there is only one seed from Abraham, which is Jesus Christ. But as is often the case, there is something subtle being taught here, something the person who remains in the spiritual condition of the natural man of I Corinthians 2: 14, who understands only that which is literal, cannot easily see.
Just as there is no more temple in which God resides, no more animal sacrifice, no more feast days which people of God must observe and no more circumcision to be done,there is no more Old Covenant Israel of the flesh by descent from Abraham. The shadow of a physical seed - from God's man, Abraham - was fulfilled in the spiritual substance which is Christ Jesus. That which is entirely physical as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 16-17) pointing to the spiritual substance which was to come - Christ - was done away with when the New Covenant replaced the Old Covenant (Hebrews 10: 9) - at the Cross.
To insist that the shadows of the Old Covenant were not fulfilled in Christ is to diminish the work of Christ on the Cross and can be part of the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24: 15.
"And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate." Daniel 11: 31
"And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." Daniel 12: 11
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Daniel 9: 27
"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn." Zechariah 12: 10
Who are "they" in Zechariah 12: 10? The literal view would be that "they" are Jews alive at the second coming of Christ. But the Jews living at the very end did not pierce Jesus. As a metaphor, Zechariah 12: 10 can be seen to point to the abomination of desolation of Daniel 9: 27. "They" have pierced Christ in the sense that they have diminished his work on the Cross by, in part, teaching that all the shadows of the Old Covenant were not fulfilled in him and done away with as works of the flesh. In bringing about the abomination of desolation in the modern time, some kind of literal desecration of the temple is not involved. Instead, as Daniel 9: 27 says, the abomination of desolation brings desolation which is poured upon the desolate.
The seed to whom the Old Testament promises were made was not to the multitude of Old Covenant Israel of the flesh. It was to Christ. Although in the physical, Christ was a descendant of Abraham, what Paul is saying is that Christ is the one spiritual seed from Abraham, the man of faith who believed God. Being the spiritual seed from Abrahm in Galatians 3: 29 means that when you belong to Christ, you too are the spiritual seed of Abraham, which is also the spiritual seed of God. "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9: 8
And in the remnant of Romans 11: 1-5 Christ fulfilled the promise that he would redeem the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15: 24). In Romans 11: 1-5 Paul starts by saying that God did not cast away his people. Then he begins talking about the remnant of Israel by quoting I Kings 19: 10 14 18. In I Kings 19: 9-10 Elijah says to God that "...they have thrown down thy alters and slain the prophets...and I even I,only am left..."
But God answers in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed down unto Baal..." This is the remnant of Israel, and Paul's point is that at times when Israel was in apostasy, God preserved a remnant with which to begin all over again with his people Israel. Then, in Romans 11: 5 Paul says "Even so at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace." Paul is stating the principle of the remnant, and clearly implying that Christ fulfilled his mission to redeem the lost sheep of the house of Israel in this remnant of Old Covenant Israel he chose to begin his people Israel all over again as those reborn in Christ. There is a big difference spiritually between that remnant of Israel which accepted Christ and that multitude of Old Covenant Israel which rejected Christ and continued in that rejection as Talmudic Judaism. It is that multitude, and not the remnant, which dispensationalism raises up as Israel.
Exodus 4: 22-23, Hosea 11: 1 and Matthew 2: 15 all point to Christ alone as being the one seed to whom the Abrahamic promises were made which is confirmed in Galatians 3:16. Again, what is said in Exodus 4: 22-23 Hosea 11: 1, and Matthew 2: 15 is subtle, at one point Christ is Israel. "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."