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Did not Jesus redeem the rest of creation - the universe?

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What about the rest of creation - the universe? Did not Jesus die and resurrect for all the other inhabitants of the universe, the fallen extraterrestrials? If not, why not? Should not every being in the universe get the message that "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 ?
 
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Hi -- your bio info says you're from "Ekenas" - where is that located?

You're assuming there Are fallen extraterrestrials. ( There Are fallen Angels.) Or that there are people on other planets. All Scripture tells us is that God created the heavens and the earth. The earth being Us.

And I realize that there Have been sightings of UFO's and people have talked about being abducted by aliens. I was fascinated by that for a Long time.

Sci-fi is great for making up other civilizations and there Are gifted make-up artists who create the alien beings.
 
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Hi -- your bio info says you're from "Ekenas" - where is that located?

You're assuming there Are fallen extraterrestrials. ( There Are fallen Angels.) Or that there are people on other planets. All Scripture tells us is that God created the heavens and the earth. The earth being Us.

And I realize that there Have been sightings of UFO's and people have talked about being abducted by aliens. I was fascinated by that for a Long time.

Sci-fi is great for making up other civilizations and there Are gifted make-up artists who create the alien beings.
Ekenäs is in Finland.

What if the "heavens" could be refered to as the stars?
 
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What about the rest of creation - the universe? Did not Jesus die and resurrect for all the other inhabitants of the universe, the fallen extraterrestrials? If not, why not? Should not every being in the universe get the message that "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 ?
The argument that all intelligent life needs free will is valid. Not the argument that all intelligent life needs a Savior.

Jesus did not die for the angels Heb 2:16.
 
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Ekenäs is in Finland.

What if the "heavens" could be refered to as the stars?

"Hi" to 'Silent Prayer from Finland. :)

The heavens we look up into Is where the stars Are and the constellations and I think the only planet we can actually see is the Moon at night.

Above That is the 3rd heaven where the angels/ God are. But that's not what you're talking about.

The Bible that we have -- the only one -- is talking to us / mankind in various parts/ countries of This world.

And the world of "what if's" Is fascinating. Kind of what sci-fi programs / movies are based on.

There IS a passage in Genesis about the 'sons of God and the daughters of men getting together and having children. They were giants -- the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. So there has been lots of speculation as to where and who the 'sons of God' were. Possibly fallen angels.

but there is also something about angels can't be redeemed. Angels are a realm of their own up in the 3rd heaven. We are the mankind who Are redeemable through the blood shed by Jesus Christ on the cross.
 
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@Silent Prayer

God created the heaven(s) and the earth.

On earth
he created humans, Adam man, and Eve from the rib of man.

Jesus died for the 'sins of the whole world' what does scripture tell us, human beings on earth are the world, earth is the planet, that God created man for,

We either belong to... sin, 'the world' and the devil (as lost souls), or we belong to God through Jesus Christ who died for the sins of 'the whole world' (Saved souls)

He took upon Himself the sins of 'all mankind' so that through Him, we 'might' be saved.

Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

We would not make disciples of any other than mankind on earth.

It is important, all mankind (on earth), hears the message of Good News and the Gift of Salvation, but not all will accept the message.

John 3:16-21 (NKJV)
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."

Earth was created by God, for mankind, not beings in the heavens, (2nd Heaven) called outer space.

When Christ Returns, the devil is defeated, all things are made new, there will be New Heaven(s) and New Earth, saved mankind will be on the New Earth, with the Lord, in our Glorious bodies.

Blessings
 
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