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There is a spiritual realm co-existent, with this physical realm or universe, which permeates universe and beyond, where God's throne is. We may observe the influence and interaction between the physical and the spiritual but at present and in its present understanding it is fashionable for humanity to look to merely physical explanation of all things. Cursed are we when we perceive the spirit but deny.

Spirit is influence. In the first week/(God's)seven days of creation God/Jesus exhibited His influence for humanity by His provision for and of humanity. In the Garden of Eden the enemy of humanity exerted his influence to talk Eve into the worst thing possible for her and all of humanity or he influenced her and still does us toward self-harm.

We exhibit the influence to which we have been exposed or the spirit by which we are possessed by our words and deeds, all of us mere humans lying somewhere between God and our enemy, whose glee is our self-harm.
 
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There is a spiritual realm co-existent, with this physical realm or universe, which permeates universe and beyond, where God's throne is. We may observe the influence and interaction between the physical and the spiritual but at present and in its present understanding it is fashionable for humanity to look to merely physical explanation of all things. Cursed are we when we perceive the spirit but deny.

Spirit is influence. In the first week/(God's)seven days of creation God/Jesus exhibited His influence for humanity by His provision for and of humanity. In the Garden of Eden the enemy of humanity exerted his influence to talk Eve into the worst thing possible for her and all of humanity or he influenced her and still does us toward self-harm.

We exhibit the influence to which we have been exposed or the spirit by which we are possessed by our words and deeds, all of us mere humans lying somewhere between God and our enemy, whose glee is our self-harm.
Your point? If this is your point, it's quite vague.
The spirit world and the physical world are definitely separate. The spirit world, or rather individual spirits can influence people in the physical world. And again, yes we can be influenced or taught by spirits of God or the Dark One.

So what's your point?
 
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Co-existent, existing at one. Humans are spirit beings though, at present for most who might read this, we are confined by our physical containers. An old word for spirit is pneuma and can be taken as air or breath and even water. Our physical organism do not function without these but few will gain perception. I could repeat my post here but perhaps when you read posts you might read them 2 or 3 times and consider their statements rather than basically saying huh and wasting our lives in trying to help you understand more. When you read my posts I would that you ask God/Jesus for understanding or what am I saying. He knows more than I and He does want us to understand. I hope He provides a greater understanding that you may share, that I may understand more, too. Our spirit should be one of wanting to know God/Jesus more not wasting our lives solely concerning ourselves with this mere physical realm.
 
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@Bendito
Co-existent, existing at one. Humans are spirit beings though, at present for most who might read this, we are confined by our physical containers. An old word for spirit is pneuma and can be taken as air or breath and even water. Our physical organism do not function without these but few will gain perception. I could repeat my post here but perhaps when you read posts you might read them 2 or 3 times and consider their statements rather than basically saying huh and wasting our lives in trying to help you understand more. When you read my posts I would that you ask God/Jesus for understanding or what am I saying. He knows more than I and He does want us to understand. I hope He provides a greater understanding that you may share, that I may understand more, too. Our spirit should be one of wanting to know God/Jesus more not wasting our lives solely concerning ourselves with this mere physical realm.
All right....I was not arguing that we are spirit beings living in flesh bodies. I've said that many times on this forum.....I still want to know your point. Why did you say this? Its not attached to any other writing, its just hanging there in mid-air with no point to it. Or was that little tidbit your whole point?
 
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There were several points made in my post and I try and make my points simple and clear. I will not repeat myself for your masturbatory gratification. Is there one of my statements that you are unable to grasp? If so ask me to clarify. Perhaps English isn't your primary langusge. There are many who just haven't attained the educational level to gain understanding and there are many who in their bent toward self-harm render themselves incapable of grasping the benefit of understanding, which is peace that passes understanding. Study the Bible without preformulated understanding and ask God/Jesus what He is saying by what is written. He has more on the ball than any mere human ever has and He provides.
 
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There were several points made in my post and I try and make my points simple and clear. I will not repeat myself for your masturbatory gratification. Is there one of my statements that you are unable to grasp? If so ask me to clarify. Perhaps English isn't your primary langusge. There are many who just haven't attained the educational level to gain understanding and there are many who in their bent toward self-harm render themselves incapable of grasping the benefit of understanding, which is peace that passes understanding. Study the Bible without preformulated understanding and ask God/Jesus what He is saying by what is written. He has more on the ball than any mere human ever has and He provides.
In spite of the crude, rude way you put your question here, I did understand the first post, I understood your second post and I understand this deliberate slap of a post. I asked what your point is...but since you did not understand the simple question I'll rephrase....WHY DID YOU SAY THAT? WHY DID YOU POST THIS? Do you understand the question now?
English is my first language. I'm a word weaver, which means I work with the language all day every day, and I'm good at it. That means the problem is not at my end, but yours.
 
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Why did I say which? Why did I post which? Is there a specific declaratory sentence that you have an issue with? I understand your superiority complex/superior attitude in insinuating my post and all of my sentences are pointless or meaningless for all of humanity. We can judge others in effort to make ourselves feel superior to all other mere humans but we will all stand before God/Jesus individually as nothing more. Perhaps you could consult a collegiate dictionary if you don't grasp the meaning of the words that comprise my sentences. You are free to judge me pointless and leave me to the rest of humanity but enough of your attempt at belittling others with your pointless judgements and snide comments. Our problem is our mere humaness before God/Jesus' Godness.
 
Loyal
Why did I say which? Why did I post which? Is there a specific declaratory sentence that you have an issue with? I understand your superiority complex/superior attitude in insinuating my post and all of my sentences are pointless or meaningless for all of humanity. We can judge others in effort to make ourselves feel superior to all other mere humans but we will all stand before God/Jesus individually as nothing more. Perhaps you could consult a collegiate dictionary if you don't grasp the meaning of the words that comprise my sentences. You are free to judge me pointless and leave me to the rest of humanity but enough of your attempt at belittling others with your pointless judgements and snide comments. Our problem is our mere humaness before God/Jesus' Godness.
I've been asking you since the very first post what your point is, then I reworded the question to why did you post that. But forget it. I'm no longer interested. You have such an interesting way about you.
 
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I write hoping at least one other human may decide to actually read and cross-reference what is written in the entire Bible while seeking God/Jesus for His understanding, rather than accepting what guileful humanity has portrayed it to be or humanitys' mistaken understanding of what is written and what we are to do with it, us , and others.
 
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