Compared to Main stream Churches Jehovah's Witnesses is more of a Portrait compare to this.
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Well if you are referring to me, I am not a "christian" and i do not belong to any christian sect, and i consider it a insult if you call me one or relate to me as one.
For many have called me a "calvinist" and label me one. But one thing i do declare, that i am a "Child of The LIVING GOD" Born of HIS SPIRIT, Born Of HEAVEN" "BORN of GOD"and Chosen to be One Of HIS Sons, before the Foundation of The World before there was a "Heaven", Space, Angel or Hell or anything that has been created both "visible and Invisible".For as scandals, Politicians, and worldly things , climate control, is not my concern, they have nothing to do with me and are not my concern. For the GOD in whom i believe has given us a Direct Command for HE is OUR LORD!
New King James Version
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
New King James Version
Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
I am different, i am one of the "Sons of GOD" and I have a Father who has given me commands. and A LORD in whom, I am, enslaved too.
And His name is "JESUS the ANOINTED of GOD" "THE TETRAGRAMMATON"I am not a christian, neither do i belong to a sect. But I DO BELONG TO GOD
AND on that "Coronation DAY" right along with others I will receive my FULL SHARED INHERITANCE , that will be "MANIFESTED Through Out "ETERNITY" for ever and ever and for ever more, were their will be no end., of that Manifestation, For we will be "The MANIFESTATION of The GLORY of GOD" from moment to moment Brighter and Brighter as the moment goes on For there will be no end to the Brightness of our being.Now you know, I am "ploughboy" and I am carrying the mail. "The Calling went out to ALL" He that have ears let him hear!
Thank you JESUS!
PS.......You said:
Best to reflect the best of your own sect of Christianity than to worry about other's. Many scandals to go around. Attacking others will not convince them of your truth. And the BIBLE said: :"Neither will one that has Risen form the dead will convince them"
meaning "JESUS"Jesus said:
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He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”
If they do not hear Jesus I know they are not going to listen to me. If GOD has already spoken, who am I? to convince somebody, I am just a witness .
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Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
Color me dense, but I'm not quite sure I'm getting the title of this thread and what it is supposed to communicate to us here at TJ or to anyone who comes across it to read/watch/listen.
Compared to Main stream Churches Jehovah's Witnesses is more of a Portrait compare to this.
I can only assume that you are comparing your 1st post, JW, with the 2nd Post, Faithchurch. JW being the identified "cult" (my word for them), and the Faithchurch as being main stream (your words for them).
Yes/No?
In watching some of the first video on the JW, it appears to be more informational about abuses, then a review theologically of JW beliefs. While the 2nd, is more in line with a theological review, though I wonder how much of one is really needed, when you're looking at Rollercoasters, and PacMan in a place that should be Holy! Anathema!
Appreciate any additional information you can provide as it pertains to the thread subject, because it's a hard sale for JW vs Faithchurch in my eyes to approve of either one.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Color me dense, but I'm not quite sure I'm getting the title of this thread and what it is supposed to communicate to us here at TJ or to anyone who comes across it to read/watch/listen.
Compared to Main stream Churches Jehovah's Witnesses is more of a Portrait compare to this.
I can only assume that you are comparing your 1st post, JW, with the 2nd Post, Faithchurch. JW being the identified "cult" (my word for them), and the Faithchurch as being main stream (your words for them).
Yes/No?
In watching some of the first video on the JW, it appears to be more informational about abuses, then a review theologically of JW beliefs. While the 2nd, is more in line with a theological review, though I wonder how much of one is really needed, when you're looking at Rollercoasters, and PacMan in a place that should be Holy! Anathema!
Appreciate any additional information you can provide as it pertains to the thread subject, because it's a hard sale for JW vs Faithchurch in my eyes to approve of either one.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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You do have a hold on it Both are in error. Both are corrupted, So will, a little leaven spoil the whole lump of meal?... It would seems both are Lace with a "Toxic Poison". But only compaing the two videos, The second Video, is the Face of "Christianity" of The Westernize World. This is The "Poster" Child of Christianity of The entire world it seems.. The leader in this day and age is The U.S.A. And this one is nothing compared to the rest oF "The Entertainment Centers of The Christian Churches of The Modern WORLD". And it is running Rampant and growing Strong Modern Day Mega LEADING Churches have become "Entertainment Centers" in stead of Jesus being the drawing card, Entertainment is. "Shock & AWE"
But Jesus said this:
King James Bible
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
King James Bible
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
So cults comes in all kinds of colors, How does one determine a cult. Roller Coasters, And elephants and eating "POP CORN" and Cotton Candy next. With a Ring Master. A lot is going on these modern day churches. They have so many different types of drawing cards From animals to Mini skirts Choir Robes. And Very low cut Blouses women teachers in churches, on a purpose to draw more men to church. And they come, when word get out. This is not new.
Gay pastors,, Lesbians pastors, Trans sexual, Bi-sexual church leaders, Sunday School Teachers, ..etc this stuff is old. But Elephants and Roller Coasters, Camels. and Sheep in Church services is new. I know for at least about a little more than 10 years this has been going on. Flashing strobe lights smoke screen, Trapeze hanging from the ceiling, Pastors making their entrance with crowns on their heads, Deacons, carrying them like they are "The Ark of The Covenant.
And no body complaining, not saying a word, but we must show love. They loving alright. They got modern day dance, Ballet dancers before the preacher preach. and everybody clapping their hands but me.
SOMETIMES, it hard to get up in the mornings. What is on the plate today?
I guy i know that i worked around for years, Born again and i know when he got born again. He told me, he and his wife went to this church dance, they was serving wine. He said he didn't really pay attention but later on he notices "women was dancing with women and men was dancing with men". He got kinda puzzled, but he got up he and his wife and start dancing too. They stayed there, until they was ready to go home. He called me and told me how much of a good time they had, that it was so nice, The people was so kind and loving, they really enjoyed them selves. It was a "Methodist church". He saw nothing wrong with it.
I have nothing to say on that matter.
PS..... The Title Text: "
"Compared to Main stream Churches Jehovah's Witnesses is more of a Portrait compare to this."
I just maybe wanted to see what kind of reaction i would get.
Modern Day Mega LEADING Churches have become "Entertainment Centers" in stead of Jesus being the drawing card, Entertainment is. "Shock & AWE"But Jesus said this:
King James Bible
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
King James Bible
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
So cults comes in all kinds of colors, How does one determine a cult. Roller Coasters, And elephants and eating "POP CORN" and Cotton Candy next. With a Ring Master. A lot is going on these modern day churches. They have so many different types of drawing cards From animals to Mini skirts Choir Robes. And Very low cut Blouses women teachers in churches, on a purpose to draw more men to church. And they come, when word get out. This is not new.
Gay pastors,, Lesbians pastors, Trans sexual, Bi-sexual church leaders, Sunday School Teachers, ..etc this stuff is old. But Elephants and Roller Coasters, Camels. and Sheep in Church services is new. I know for at least about a little more than 10 years this has been going on. Flashing strobe lights smoke screen, Trapeze hanging from the ceiling, Pastors making their entrance with crowns on their heads, Deacons, carrying them like they are "The Ark of The Covenant.
And no body complaining, not saying a word, but we must show love. They loving alright. They got modern day dance, Ballet dancers before the preacher preach. and everybody clapping their hands but me.
SOMETIMES, it hard to get up in the mornings. What is on the plate today?
I guy i know that i worked around for years, Born again and i know when he got born again. He told me, he and his wife went to this church dance, they was serving wine. He said he didn't really pay attention but later on he notices "women was dancing with women and men was dancing with men". He got kinda puzzled, but he got up he and his wife and start dancing too. They stayed there, until they was ready to go home. He called me and told me how much of a good time they had, that it was so nice, The people was so kind and loving, they really enjoyed them selves. It was a "Methodist church". He saw nothing wrong with it.
I have nothing to say on that matter.
PS..... The Title Text: "
"Compared to Main stream Churches Jehovah's Witnesses is more of a Portrait compare to this."
I just maybe wanted to see what kind of reaction i would get.
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Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
I liked your last post, but would instead if able had added tears flowing from my face for the truth of your words instead.
Even worse was the ending of your post concerning your friend, and his wife. Sadly, the Methodist have been backslid for a long time now. It seems the more Spirit filled, Bible believing/following Churches are poor, persecuted, and mostly overseas, Africa, China, and the like.
I would be totally beside myself, if not for the knowledge that these corporate institutions called churches, are just brick & mortar with skeletons in the pews. Not the Church lead by Christ at the Head, with the Body of Christ Worshipping His Holy Name, all the while growing in His Word. They are spread here and there, wondering at times why they feel out of place to the rest of the congregation, and peoples. Found across the Highways, and Byways of life.
So, though I am sad for the lost, I do have joy for the living in Christ Jesus. For they are my true Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus.
Carry on my brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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I liked your last post, but would instead if able had added tears flowing from my face for the truth of your words instead.
Even worse was the ending of your post concerning your friend, and his wife. Sadly, the Methodist have been backslid for a long time now. It seems the more Spirit filled, Bible believing/following Churches are poor, persecuted, and mostly overseas, Africa, China, and the like.
I would be totally beside myself, if not for the knowledge that these corporate institutions called churches, are just brick & mortar with skeletons in the pews. Not the Church lead by Christ at the Head, with the Body of Christ Worshipping His Holy Name, all the while growing in His Word. They are spread here and there, wondering at times why they feel out of place to the rest of the congregation, and peoples. Found across the Highways, and Byways of life.
So, though I am sad for the lost, I do have joy for the living in Christ Jesus. For they are my true Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus.
Carry on my brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Take note: I live in Michigan: These things have been happening for years. and even on darker scales, they go to a regular church on Sunday Morning then at night or during the week, And even more open now. Pastors worshipping greek gods, posting greek symbols with the greek gods right on the posters.in their office. The be wearing greek, paraphernalia and the women with bumper stickers on the cars. in the the church parking lot. You taking about lost, you feel like the lost sheep. Because you are not engaging in the things they are participating in. They be giving you strange looks, Like you a pagan.
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Remember , Jacob wife stole her daddy's IDOL, and was sitting on it, when he wanted to look under her, she said, she was on on period.
(Genesis 31:34)BSB
"Now Rachel had taken Laban’s household idols put them in the saddlebag of her camel, and was sitting on them. And Laban searched everything in the tentbut found nothing. Rachel said to her father, “Sir, do not be angry that I cannot stand up before you; for I am having my period.” So Laban searched, but could not find the household idols.…"
She taking her "HOODOO" with her. "that JACOB" had a hard life.
(Genesis 31:34)BSB
"Now Rachel had taken Laban’s household idols put them in the saddlebag of her camel, and was sitting on them. And Laban searched everything in the tentbut found nothing. Rachel said to her father, “Sir, do not be angry that I cannot stand up before you; for I am having my period.” So Laban searched, but could not find the household idols.…"
She taking her "HOODOO" with her. "that JACOB" had a hard life.
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Dear Brother, @PloughBoy
That last video in #8 brought back some memories to me. Sadly, it's the ignorance of these people, even having been churched, that they don't know what they are messing with. I blame the churches for this. They've dealt with the mindset of out of sight, out of mind, and in so doing have left their congregations ignorant and unarmed to deal with a very real and growing evil.
Well, its no longer out of sight and truth be told hasn't been for awhile. What I learned of witchcraft was due to my own research. It was driven by my daughter one day bringing home a book on witchcraft that was loaned to her by a friend at school, who of all things was/is Catholic and this was over 20 years ago. Pouring through Scripture, Word Studies, and researching the internet I'd had enough when entering a site that had to do with the Chaldean practices of old, a malignant force came through the computer monitor and punched me in the chest. I was so unprepared for the evil that was communicated, that until then, I had not realized the danger of delving into such areas was very real, and not something that should be done by one unprepared.
That is what our children, and adults have opened themselves up to, due to their ignorance of Scripture, and blindness to the fact that it is a war that we are participating in, and not some game to be entertained or feel good practices to pass the time with. That is why our churches are who I place the greatest blame to this, because they profess to be teachers of God's Word, but have sorely neglected an area that continues to permeate all areas of Society.
Thank-you for sharing it, and hopefully to others who are unaware of the prevalence of such practices in today's world/Society.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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That last video in #8 brought back some memories to me. Sadly, it's the ignorance of these people, even having been churched, that they don't know what they are messing with. I blame the churches for this. They've dealt with the mindset of out of sight, out of mind, and in so doing have left their congregations ignorant and unarmed to deal with a very real and growing evil.
Well, its no longer out of sight and truth be told hasn't been for awhile. What I learned of witchcraft was due to my own research. It was driven by my daughter one day bringing home a book on witchcraft that was loaned to her by a friend at school, who of all things was/is Catholic and this was over 20 years ago. Pouring through Scripture, Word Studies, and researching the internet I'd had enough when entering a site that had to do with the Chaldean practices of old, a malignant force came through the computer monitor and punched me in the chest. I was so unprepared for the evil that was communicated, that until then, I had not realized the danger of delving into such areas was very real, and not something that should be done by one unprepared.
That is what our children, and adults have opened themselves up to, due to their ignorance of Scripture, and blindness to the fact that it is a war that we are participating in, and not some game to be entertained or feel good practices to pass the time with. That is why our churches are who I place the greatest blame to this, because they profess to be teachers of God's Word, but have sorely neglected an area that continues to permeate all areas of Society.
Thank-you for sharing it, and hopefully to others who are unaware of the prevalence of such practices in today's world/Society.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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You shall not permit a sorceress to live. Exodus 22:18 [ESV]
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. [KJV]
As for the person who turns to the mediums and the soothsayers to commit adultery with them, I will set my face against that person, and I will cut him off from the midst of his people. Leviticus 20:6
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. [KJV]
As for the person who turns to the mediums and the soothsayers to commit adultery with them, I will set my face against that person, and I will cut him off from the midst of his people. Leviticus 20:6
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9 “When you come into the land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer
11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead,
12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you.
13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God,
14 for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do this."
Deuteronomy 18:
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer
11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead,
12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you.
13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God,
14 for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do this."
Deuteronomy 18:
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Dear Brother,
There are so many Scripture verses one can find that would let one know that what the World holds as dear especially in the area of the Occult, is harmful to those who call God, Abba Father.
Thank-you for sharing a few of them!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Well if you are referring to me, I am not a "christian" and i do not belong to any christian sect, and i consider it a insult if you call me one or relate to me as one.
For as scandals, Politicians, and worldly things , climate control, is not my concern, they have nothing to do with me and are not my concern. For the GOD in whom i believe has given us a Direct Command for HE is OUR LORD!
New King James Version
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
New King James Version
Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
I am different, i am one of the "Sons of GOD" and I have a Father who has given me commands. and A LORD in whom, I am, enslaved too.
I am not a christian, neither do i belong to a sect. But I DO BELONG TO GOD
Now you know, I am "ploughboy" and I am carrying the mail. "The Calling went out to ALL" He that have ears let him hear!
Thank you JESUS!
PS.......You said:
Best to reflect the best of your own sect of Christianity than to worry about other's. Many scandals to go around. Attacking others will not convince them of your truth. And the BIBLE said: :"Neither will one that has Risen form the dead will convince them"
Jesus said:
English Standard Version
He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”
If they do not hear Jesus I know they are not going to listen to me. If GOD has already spoken, who am I? to convince somebody, I am just a witness .
A insult to be called a Christian the new name our Holy Father named his bride in Acts? ????? Previously he called her Israel . What's up with this secret coding thingy? Is "THE TETRAGRAMMATON a secret code as a metaphor ? If so how do you come to that conclusion.
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you said: "If so how do you come to that conclusion."
My answer: I have read "The BOOK" from front to back as a whole maybe over a 100 times in orderly Form, "Genesis to Revelations" and then the New testament maybe over 500 times. or. better. In 1977 i gave my life over to Jesus with my hold being For he commanded me to: Not only did He become my "savior" He became My "LORD" many know Him as "Savior' but only a FEW Knows HiM as "LORD:|"
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'"
I was a big enough of a fool to believe HIM!
And when i came short of the goal, I prayed in tears and LOUD Crying, For Him to give me the "STRENGTH to Do So" And when i got here in The BOOK, and read these words listed below. [AND I Put in the BIG HOLE and I Press on it, i took it to another level and I laid the pedal to the metal, bound for Glory Land"]
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. [ and it do not mean a church building]
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish." [and that is what matters]
His BOOK is LOADED with RICHES untold.
I have been Ploughing this field for over 44 years. And each year, he has rich my soul within His WORD, more than he has filled the hearts of mens desires
I took to heart in 1977 these words as well and took them to be true:
King James Bible
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
And i am Big enough of A Fool to believe it
And I am still "Ploughing" [The Perseverance of The Saints] And i pray to GOD, Continue to KEEP me on the SAME PATH, you kept me on down through The Years! And many times, this path has been dark and lonely but I kept your WORD and stayed on The PATH.
And i can go on throughout "ETERNITY" talking about HIM non STOP and Never come to an END about HIM and what He has done to my Soul!
And he has only Just begon, HIS finishing work, is yet to be done.
you said: "If so how do you come to that conclusion."
My answer: I have read "The BOOK" from front to back as a whole maybe over a 100 times in orderly Form, "Genesis to Revelations" and then the New testament maybe over 500 times. or. better. In 1977 i gave my life over to Jesus with my hold being For he commanded me to: Not only did He become my "savior" He became My "LORD" many know Him as "Savior' but only a FEW Knows HiM as "LORD:|"
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'"
I was a big enough of a fool to believe HIM!
And when i got here in The BOOK, and read these words listed below. [AND I Put in the BIG HOLE and I Press on it, i took it to another level and I laid the pedal to the metal, bound for Glory Land"]
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. [ and it do not mean a church building]
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish." [and that is what matters]
His BOOK is LOADED with RICHES untold.
I have been Ploughing this field for over 44 years. And each year, he has rich my soul within His WORD, more than he has filled the hearts of mens desires
I took to heart in 1977 these words as well and took them to be true:
King James Bible
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
And i am Big enough of A Fool to believe it
And I am still "Ploughing" [The Perseverance of The Saints] And i pray to GOD, Continue to KEEP me on the SAME PATH, you kept me on down through The Years! And many times, this path has been dark and lonely but I kept your WORD and stayed on The PATH.
And i can go on throughout "ETERNITY" talking about HIM non STOP and Never come to an END about HIM and what He has done to my Soul!
And he has only Just begon, HIS finishing work, is yet to be done.
You did not answer any questions I did ask . You say you are the plow guy yet you will not be called a Christian like Jesus our brother was called .
Sounds like corrupted Judaism.
I can ask again. Is "THE TETRAGRAMMATON a secret code as a metaphor ? If so how do you come to that conclusion?
What's that all about ? is it a metaphor used in parables ?
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Did you understood what The Moderator "Christ4Ever" said?
I do not remember "Christ4Ever" teaching THE TETRAGRAMMATON .
I can ask again. Is "THE TETRAGRAMMATON a secret code as a metaphor ? If so how do you come to that conclusion?
What's that all about is it a metaphor used in parables ?
Not sure which post you are referring to? But what would it do in respect the the question at hand?
Did you mean what is harmful to those who call God, Abba Father. Jesus the Son of man called God Abba Father . As the chief apostle and prophet he was empowered by the Father .
God is not a man as us .And neither is there any fleshly infallible interpreter as a umpire(daysman) that stands between our unseen Holy Father the master teacher and mankind .
Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.
Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both
Job 33:12 Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man
