how justified is capital punishment and what does the Bible say about it???
thank you kitGod is the ultimate giver of capitol punishment. The entire old testament shows you that beyond any question.
God tried to teach the world that if you allow bad, and sin and murder and rape and stealing and all things that these things if not taken out of society will only corrupt society.
The lessons are very clear. From the old law to the new, all things have consequences. God so very much tried to teach the world and the world ignored.
So now we have what we have today. Murderers and rapists and thieves flaunt their way at society, and we as a society now carry the burden of financial support to feed, counsel and house prisoners and society lets them out to conduct more crimes and the cycle starts all over again.
Daily a child rapist is let out of prison , after society supporting this criminal for years, they let them out and within days, they have killed another child. And society still says , we need to help them, to rehabilitate them, and provide for them, and on and on.
One does not even have to believe in God to see the result. Even a good person, an Atheist can see the results of allowance of all things. Evil breeds evil, the one who commits the crime , now works through an entire system of legalities and lawyers all of which make their living off the evil. So evil grows to the point we see in our society today.
Ask yourself one simple question, if your family is ever touched by a violent crime, and this is the deal, those who have never been in this situation do justify, and do allow as they do not understand, but if you were in this and say a man kills your little girl, rapes her and the legal system throws it all out of court due to some technicality or some police officer beats the one who did this, do you wish this person to be allowed to do this to another child??
Many are against Capital Punishment, I myself support it, and wish it was enforced in a greater way. God also is for this, and Jesus says also, throw the rotten apple out of the barrel, before it can corrupt the other apples.
A lot of corrupt apples today. And a great deal of financial burden on all to support all these corrupt apples.
I sat on a jury once , a man accused of rape and sexual misconduct of a teenage girl. In his own handwriting and in his own voice on the stand he admitted this . But the lawyers tried and tried and almost won the case, based on things to distract. To take the crime and bury it with fluff and lies. They did their best to defend the criminal actions and to allow the man to go free. They worked on the emotions of the jury to the point some broke down and cried, and did not wish to punish the man, such a good man basically, just committed a crime, we should not be so harsh on him......they are pros, and it was very eye opening for me, it shows me how the legal system works and how there is no such thing as right and wrong, only a system of one lawyer against another and how one can sway the jury. There is not one bit of concern for right or wrong, that has long gone.
Hey:One problem is that 'our' legal system is SOOOO corrupt. I've seen it first hand. Another is that the NT tells Christians to not kill anyone.
Matthew 5:39 (NKJV)
39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person.
"God gave us common sense too"Hey:
Do not kill, really means do not murder.
Not to resist an evil person means to do all you can without violence to walk away, to not take violent action, to resolve it in another way, or to find a solution to make the situation good. But if that evil person is intent on your harm, then we do not have to allow it.
Myself and this preacher would get along well, he has mostly my views on things. One has to understand the entire message of the Bible and sort out the things of man that are misleading. That is where we are today, so misled we are a mess. Evil breeds more evil and one day it will become so bad the final judgement will come. God is very tolerant, he does not wish to act, but he knows he will one day have to. He will have to do what we will not do.
Gods Criminal Justice System, Bob Enyart I find this just about sums it up.
God gave us common sense too, and you know, just like the mass murderer in this article who was killed by another criminal, this is also Gods justice. Sometimes he does use us in a way to accomplish things, but he would not have a good man simply kill the murderer with malice and wish for revenge, but he will allow us as a people to kill him by law, and that is a entirely different attitude. It is the intent of the heart and the action. Each situation is so different and God judges them one by one, where we as humans put into place a law that is broad and general and does have failings.
That isn't entirely true, Kit.God tried to teach the world that if you allow bad, and sin and murder and rape and stealing and all things that these things if not taken out of society will only corrupt society.
The lessons are very clear. From the old law to the new,
God tell me this.Capital Punishment: The death penalty for sin.
There are two forms of Government in the world. The Church government and the heathen government. Each is supposed to rule over their own people. Unfortunately, the heathen love to govern the church.
The Church's head is Christ who holds the sole authority on deciding who lives and who dies. He has judged that anyone who has never sinned has the right to cast the first stone. I agree with him.
Our earthen governments are not presently being ruled with a rod of Iron by the rightful judge and are therefore able to do what is right in there own eyes until the righteous judge of the universe makes his appearance. They decide at a whim what the law might be to govern the people. To kill or not to kill, that is the question.
True Capital Punishment is justified only when God decides who dies and for what. He can ordain whomever he chooses to enact the judgement but all must be in submission to the will of God. We are merely the sons of God and have no right to make those type of judgments without our Fathers approval. He gave that power to our older brother Jesus. And of course, he didn't tell us to kill anyone, but to love them.
God spoke explicitly in the OT that he would require the blood of man if he shed mans blood and many have taken this to support their claim to CP. Even if it were the case, one would have to say that that particular verse could only apply to murder. They may then point out the various laws enacted in the Mosaic Law and how there were many offenses executable by death. In this particular case we must see that God was the ruler of Israel and employed a mediator at any given time in the form of man to deliver his justice and condemnation to deserving individuals and nations. God is no longer ruling a single nation but is reaping the harvest for his kingdom which is not of this age. The time of the Gentiles is a time for the Gentiles to have dominion and rule over mankind here on Earth. God still is sovereign over who rules any given nation and does raise up rulers for his purposes. The Church however is supposed to be self governing through submission unto the Lordship of Jesus Christ who is the Prince of Peace. That being the peace of God which can only be had by being completely submissive to the Father.
Until Christ tells me to start executing, I will continue to dine with the ******, murderers, liars, thieves and adulterers so that I may call them to repentance and make them my brethren.
With Love in Christ,
Wisdom is justified of her children.God tell me this.
He says if a man is a murderer I am to look at the situation with wisdom. If this is a crime of passion such as a man kills his wife and is not a threat to society, then I can be lenient and allow God to exact revenge.
If this murderer is a very bad person, a child killer and rapist and I have children of my own and others in society have children them God authorizes me in the capacity of law and reason to execute him.
If this murderer stops me in the parking lot of a shopping mall to rob me at gun point, God authorized me to protect myself and kill him if possible. I am not required to submit to crime.
It is man who has created the situation we have today. Long ago they did not have prisons and institutions to house and feed and rehabilitate a criminal. So they exacted justice on the spot, either by execution or by the requirement to make restitution to the victim of the crime.
Places of haven and refuge were also provided for those who were caught up in an accident. This was provided so the relatives would not find them and kill them. An accident was an accident, where as today an accident is a crime. And one can receive more of a punishment for an accident than a deliberate act.
It is a balance of wisdom and common sense that is not even remotely known today. Common sense, wisdom and the way of God is buried in the world of today. In its place are great burdens upon the people to support and maintain crime and bad things. And we as God says are required to live within the laws of our government, but you see, today government is made up of us, we are the ones who create the government. It does not seem to me it is working out real well .
One more example of wisdom. Jesus told the woman who committed adultery to go and sin no more. He forgave her. He used wisdom . This was a crime against the will of God, and abuse of her own body. It was not a crime against any person. So he granted forgiveness. Now if she goes and sins again, what would he do, if she rejects the forgiveness and does this again? What would he do?
Or if this had been a man brought before him that had killed a child during the course of rape, would he let this person wander in society to commit this crime again??
I see much of the worlds situation as the misunderstanding of tolerance and acceptance.
When Jesus said turn the other cheek, he meant to do all you can do to prevent any situation for causing you to sin. To be meek and to try your best to accept and diffuse any situation, take three steps back if need be. If you need to give the man your entire savings to cause you to not sin and lash out and kill, do so .
But there is truth and wisdom to be considered also. If this man still intends to do you physical harm and or harm your family, well??
I pray, to Jesus and have many times, that wisdom and understanding will come to all and the tolerance of crime become understood.
There are two sides to this, always. From the totally lenient as we are today to the abuse of the capitol punishment used to kill witches and kill people for heresy.Wisdom is justified of her children.
I am an ambassador for Christ, he is my King.
He did not come into the world to execute the criminals nor teach me to do such things. He taught me to Preach the Kingdom of God which is coming and not here yet. When the Kingdom comes, then shall he rule the nations with a rod of iron. I would like to see those murderers come to repentance too and enter into the Kingdom of Heaven in submission to the king. How can that be if I execute them for their crimes? At least in prison there is hope that God may call, plant, water and give the increase. I pray for those murderers, that Gods grace would come upon them.
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